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see317 · April 2012

815165 wrote: »

also

jesus christ

why is everyone else playing zerg today

Pretty sure it's Google's fault.
Even if it isn't, it's high time they got blamed for something.

Panda4You · April 2012

Uh... Is it actually possible to hold massive speedling/bane semi-allins with hatchfirst/roaches? At sub-GSL level?

Yilias · April 2012

I remember watching Kambing coach Fuego in that very strat, so I'd say yes.

Variable · April 2012

I should probably stop playing at 6 AM

Kambing · April 2012

Panda4You wrote: »

Uh... Is it actually possible to hold massive speedling/bane semi-allins with hatchfirst/roaches? At sub-GSL level?

I don't think sub-GSL level has anything to do with it. In general, holding timings requires that you are crisp with your execution which is something that any player can obtain.

That being said, what kind of speed/bane timings are you talking about? 10/10? 14/14? Speedling expand into banes? The short answers should be no, yes, and yes respectively.

(And with 10/10, it's slow ling/bane technically.)

Kambing · April 2012

And to expand on that further, the scariest of the lot that isn't a build loss is 14/14 speed/bane. You should focus on walling your ramp off and getting out roaches asap. However, frequently you'll find that you don't end up behind even when things look bad. For example, if he takes down your expo with an excessive amount of ling/bane, you're holding at your ramp with 3 roaches and queens, and he hasn't put down his expo yet, he's only at-best equalized the game. If he's putting down his expo behind this, then he'll be exactly 12 lings weaker in his attack which makes it less likely your expo will go down.

Joe K · April 2012

Kambing wrote: »

Panda4You wrote: »

Uh... Is it actually possible to hold massive speedling/bane semi-allins with hatchfirst/roaches? At sub-GSL level?

I don't think sub-GSL level has anything to do with it. In general, holding timings requires that you are crisp with your execution which is something that any player can obtain.

That being said, what kind of speed/bane timings are you talking about? 10/10? 14/14? Speedling expand into banes? The short answers should be no, yes, and yes respectively.

(And with 10/10, it's slow ling/bane technically.)

hows about 13/12?

Kambing · April 2012

Joe K wrote: »

Kambing wrote: »

Panda4You wrote: »

Uh... Is it actually possible to hold massive speedling/bane semi-allins with hatchfirst/roaches? At sub-GSL level?

I don't think sub-GSL level has anything to do with it. In general, holding timings requires that you are crisp with your execution which is something that any player can obtain.

That being said, what kind of speed/bane timings are you talking about? 10/10? 14/14? Speedling expand into banes? The short answers should be no, yes, and yes respectively.

(And with 10/10, it's slow ling/bane technically.)

hows about 13/12?

Anything between 10/10 and 14/14 bleeds together. There's no special timings to hit here; you're simply racing out roaches/queens vs. ling/bane which is dependent on your execution vs. your opponent's execution.

crucialityfactor · April 2012

So, I think I just figured out streaming. Can someone check out my channel and let me know how it's running?

http://www.twitch.tv/crucialityfactor

kime · April 2012

crucialityfactor wrote: »

So, I think I just figured out streaming. Can someone check out my channel and let me know how it's running?

http://www.twitch.tv/crucialityfactor

Looks to be running very smoothly.

marty_0001 · April 2012

Mmm mm

Beatin a plat by him timing out

Hollow victory!

Keamien · April 2012

marty_0001 wrote: »

Mmm mm

Beatin a plat by him timing out

Hollow victory!

Play to win!

Saaruto · April 2012

MC v Stephano IPL Fight Club about to go live! In other news, I'm going to study abroad in Geneva, Switzerland from August to December...so EU PAers hit me up!

itsweb · April 2012

I've tanked almost 200 ladder points this week, and I don't feel like I'm tilting or playing bad, I just lose close games. What the fuck

mEEksa · April 2012

That was a cool build by MC. He attacked Stephano's natural with void rays+4gate, did a bit of damage, and then when Stephano pushed it back, sent the void rays to Stephano's main and warped in sentries on the high ground to trap him out. Stephano had sent his queens to the third to defend, so he had no answer for the void rays and eventually lost his natural.

Saaruto · April 2012

I was pretty wary of MC's build in the beginning, I didn't think it'd do enough damage. Those extra voids really did a great job of hurting Stephano but I think he shouldn't have tried so hard to make the drop/warp-in + forcefield ramp thing work when the game got a bit later.

EDIT: 6min 3gate warp-in by MC...damn

mEEksa · April 2012

Oh my Stephano, you see a 3gate at your doorstep and you decide to drone...

shwaip · April 2012

dat lollossus control

mEEksa · April 2012

I'm glad that Stephano is giving MC a run for his money. I didn't expect him to take the series, but he's at least showing that he is on the same level as MC who is playing some of the best PvZ in the world right now.

What · April 2012

That last game they both seemed to be playing like shit.

narwhal · April 2012

Just wanted to pull a quote from the GLHF magazine that I feel pertains to this thread:
"Every starcraft 2 player would learn significantly better if they considered imbalance, hacks, and cheese non-existent. If you stop focusing on things you can't control, you'll start focusing on things you can."

Yilias · April 2012

"Oh, wouldn't the world seem dull and flat with nothing whatever to grumble at?"
~W.S. Gilbert

In all seriousness though, this thread has far less balance complaining than most of the Starcraft communities. The BNet forums are O.O and TL isn't much better. I feel the majority of our discussions are constructive, although I will certainly admit we've had some bad threads/pages as a result of balance complaining (like the ~20 page argument on flying buildings a few months ago).

kedinik · April 2012

That flying building conversation was so silly.

Keamien · April 2012

flying buildings UP plz fix blizz

Dhalphir · April 2012

personally i think zerglings shouldn't benefit from upgrades

mastman · April 2012

you guys

you guys
are
best

Variable · April 2012

narwhal wrote: »

Just wanted to pull a quote from the GLHF magazine that I feel pertains to this thread:
"Every starcraft 2 player would learn significantly better if they considered imbalance, hacks, and cheese non-existent. If you stop focusing on things you can't control, you'll start focusing on things you can."

I think we, on a whole, promote this type of thinking.

I'm not saying everyone is perfect all the time, of course.

MMMig · April 2012

Dhalphir wrote: »

personally i think zerglings shouldn't benefit from upgrades

Nor colossus.

And zealots and stalkers shouldn't benefit from the same type of upgrades.
One is a lazer knife, one is a flying lazer. Obviously different things.

Obviously.

Saaruto · April 2012

This is what I read just now:

MMMig wrote: »

Dhalphir wrote: »

extended series

extended series.

extended series.

Obviously.

Keamien · April 2012

Protoss just shouldn't even have forges. They obv need 10 different buildings for upgrades.

Also, chrono? more like OP-o. Or something.

Dhalphir · April 2012

Also, SCVs should have 10 armour.

LoserForHireX · April 2012

Dhalphir wrote: »

Also, SCVs should have 10 armour.

scvs should have all the armors.

kedinik · April 2012

LoserForHireX wrote: »

Dhalphir wrote: »

Also, SCVs should have 10 armour.

scvs should have all the armors.

Yeah, reduce everything else to 0 armor and give that amount to them.

mEEksa · April 2012

Do you guys remember in beta when SCVs had like 10 more health and you basically couldn't lose by just rushing with marines and a bunch of SCVs? Those were the days.

Keamien · April 2012

mEEksa wrote: »

Do you guys remember in beta when SCVs had like 10 more health and you basically couldn't lose by just rushing with marines and a bunch of SCVs? Those were the days.

Back when terran was balanced. You all just hadn't figured us out yet

Dhalphir · April 2012

mEEksa wrote: »

Do you guys remember in beta when SCVs had like 10 more health and you basically couldn't lose by just rushing with marines and a bunch of SCVs? Those were the days.

I remember that from last week.

Variable · April 2012

my earliest memory is telling meeks that 3 rax stim timing was fine and allowed you to expand comfortably after playing a game on steppes of war that he watched.

Yilias · April 2012

I started lurking the thread early last summer. The earliest thing I remember is people complaining about BFH at MLG Anaheim.

kedinik · April 2012

I asked if the game was cool; ancient thread responded by hooking the HDH invitational directly into my veins.

fatalspoons · April 2012

won a game tonight against a higher ranked protoss player going ffe by denying the 2nd nexus with a hatchery, then cancelling it before it finished. Put me way ahead.

And made me feel good.

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