The only thing better than one fractal is two fractals.
Seriously, I've ran a train on the enemy gen room as a solo Brute. Most of the time I have a spare fractal to lay down to keep the enemy away and give myself a chance to regen health/energy.
Fractal grenades are total bullshit. If one goes off and you are anywhere in the area in the duration it's going off, you will die. They are exponentially more powerful than any other grenade in the game.
You know what else is BS about fractal grenades?
When I throw one, and only 2 people get hit (and don't die) out of a bunch that run through it.
The only thing better than one fractal is two fractals.
Seriously, I've ran a train on the enemy gen room as a solo Brute. Most of the time I have a spare fractal to lay down to keep the enemy away and give myself a chance to regen health/energy.
Fractal grenades are total bullshit. If one goes off and you are anywhere in the area in the duration it's going off, you will die. They are exponentially more powerful than any other grenade in the game.
You know what else is BS about fractal grenades?
When I throw one, and only 2 people get hit (and don't die) out of a bunch that run through it.
They're honestly more about area fear/denial than actual effectiveness. you throw one down in a corridor as you're retreating or trying to defend, theoretically this forces the other guy to hold back so you can setup whatever you were planning like killing/defending the gen or giving more time for backup to arrive. Unfortunately in pubs people just run through them like lemmings.
The only thing better than one fractal is two fractals.
Seriously, I've ran a train on the enemy gen room as a solo Brute. Most of the time I have a spare fractal to lay down to keep the enemy away and give myself a chance to regen health/energy.
Fractal grenades are total bullshit. If one goes off and you are anywhere in the area in the duration it's going off, you will die. They are exponentially more powerful than any other grenade in the game.
You know what else is BS about fractal grenades?
When I throw one, and only 2 people get hit (and don't die) out of a bunch that run through it.
They're honestly more about area fear/denial than actual effectiveness. you throw one down in a corridor as you're retreating or trying to defend, theoretically this forces the other guy to hold back so you can setup whatever you were planning like killing/defending the gen or giving more time for backup to arrive. Unfortunately in pubs people just run through them like lemmings.
Yeah, I was mostly just refuting the "If I'm anywhere near a fractal grenade I die" sentiment.
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I just bought the Brute class tonight, so now they're all unlocked.
Wish I'd unlocked it earlier... got my first blue plate. Then my second. And my third. On the same map. No idea what it is about the heavy spinfusor, but I loves it.
Also, fractal grenades are a beast indoors, as I've noticed being on the receiving end of them. As I see it, the Brute is a sort of raider/infiltrator, but fat, and less about blowing up the generator as he is "I'm going to go inside your base near your generator and take up your time for a little while so the rest of the team can do their jobs."
Did certainly seem a bit less janky when I tried tonight after doing the tweak. I'll have to test it out in server play tomorrow, since I've been feeling a weird speed of mousing issue lately. Can't tell if it's because I moved my apartment or if I'm getting *just* skilled enough at finishing in the top 5 all the time that I'm starting to notice all the imperfections in my motions. Goddamn game, swear I'm doing more training and watching more "how to cap, defend" etc videos than I am playing Tribes itself.
So difficult to get certain map's flag routes down to a science.
Just an ancient PA person who doesn't leave the house much.
As you are getting better you might be noticing the little things that can mess with your aim. Like have you fully disabled mouse acceleration in windows, done the whole Reg edit thing?
Has anyone tested out the hitboxes on a live server vs. the target practice map with SMGs and Rifles. I was playing around with the mouse settings and noticed it was really easy to score hits, waaaay easier than it feels in multiplayer. I always assumed it was the lag, but now I'm wondering if the target practice map is using different gun mechanics altogether.
Even when I aimed away from the models, my shots would hit with a pretty generous margin for error. Ironically, the spinfusor will totally clip through a player model without hitting; you have to get the center of the disc inside someone before it will explode.
that ini totally helps...i was definitely feeling something wrong with the mouse control in this game, but chalked it up to poor graphics optimization.
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I can't wait to get home and try out that ini tweak in hopes of finding out that my aim really isn't terrible, it was a poor control scheme all this time.
I will most likely discover my aim really is that terrible.
I've little hope it makes much of a difference with me, but no matter, the game is still fun even when terrible. How else do you explain so many of its players?
Tried out that Ini tweak. It does make a difference! The mouse is where I want it, when I want it. I've just gotten a touch used to the floaty mouse, but that should be easy to unlearn.
Damn that UE3 engine, and their need to consolize every damn thing
It seems to be a performance tweak aimed at consoles though. They need the performance and players don't notice the difference in input with the gamepad controls.
Conversely on the PC the difference is noticeable and we don't need the performance.
Conversely on the PC the difference is noticeable and we don't need the performance.
Not everyone has an expensive gaming rig and T:A is hardly the most demanding game using UT3. I'm extremely skeptical most PC people can run modern games at +60fps and as such have frames to spare.
That's not a good reason to screw with the controls. On PCs people can turn their graphics down. At the very least it should be in the game settings so that people can make a choice.
Well, I think I will be cutting down on my Tribes play if they don't fix teams. I'm sick of stacks causing unbalanced games. It doesn't matter how well I play. I can only delay the inevitable if I'm up against a stack. Being on the stacked team is no less dull.
The large majority of games I've played in the last few days have been stacked with a bunch of people doing who-knows-what while the real game happens between 4 skilled players on one team versus 2 skilled players on the other. It is just not fun and I really don't see why HiRez can't just make teams random (or better, do proper matchmaking) on pub servers.
That's not a good reason to screw with the controls. On PCs people can turn their graphics down. At the very least it should be in the game settings so that people can make a choice.
That's a developer choice, not an engine choice. And since T:A doesn't exist for the consoles I fail to see how it's consolization.
I've been crushing on people with the DMB lately. This new generation of Tribes players don't know how to handle serious HoF. They keep flying into me ALL GAME.
1. Take a little step back from the flag as a PTH comes zooming it.
2. Collect dem points from the kill (as he splats all over my Super Heavy), the defend and the flag return.
I finally spent some XP and unlocked all the toys on my Juggernaut last night and, yeah, its pretty ridiculous. The X1 / Disc combo pretty much makes you into an offensive Doombringer with a spinfusor, plus mortar grenades. With Quick Draw you can keep shooting people in the air until you're ready to disc their landing spot and finish them off.
If you like playing heavy O, I'd say there is no reason to unlock the Brute.
I've been crushing on people with the DMB lately. This new generation of Tribes players don't know how to handle serious HoF. They keep flying into me ALL GAME.
1. Take a little step back from the flag as a PTH comes zooming it.
2. Collect dem points from the kill (as he splats all over my Super Heavy), the defend and the flag return.
sounds like some terribad pathfinders, I guess they are a popular choice since they keep telling everyone to "go fast" but flag capping and chasing should really be left to those who either have a natural affinity to it, or practice the runs constantly.
also as long as your team is not terrible (they probably are) I enjoy shooting the flag into a corner or into a place that ruins all capping attempts, but you gotta watch out for idiot team members who just go and return the flag for POINTZ!!!!!
I too am getting a tired of playing in stomps, in either direction. Even if they don't get us proper matchmaking soon they need to segregate the playerbase better. A bracket for 1-6 and then a bracket for everyone else isn't enough. Even a 1-6, 6-24, 24+ set up would do wonders. Close games are far too rare these days.
Has anyone tested out the hitboxes on a live server vs. the target practice map with SMGs and Rifles. I was playing around with the mouse settings and noticed it was really easy to score hits, waaaay easier than it feels in multiplayer. I always assumed it was the lag, but now I'm wondering if the target practice map is using different gun mechanics altogether.
Even when I aimed away from the models, my shots would hit with a pretty generous margin for error. Ironically, the spinfusor will totally clip through a player model without hitting; you have to get the center of the disc inside someone before it will explode.
I think I've noticed that about SMG & rifles as well. I was trying out classes as I was unlocking them and found it really easy to hit bots, especially with the fast firing smg. Live I have way more trouble with SMGs than I do with rifles. I know players move much faster than those bots, but the difference feels drastic.
I finally spent some XP and unlocked all the toys on my Juggernaut last night and, yeah, its pretty ridiculous. The X1 / Disc combo pretty much makes you into an offensive Doombringer with a spinfusor, plus mortar grenades. With Quick Draw you can keep shooting people in the air until you're ready to disc their landing spot and finish them off.
If you like playing heavy O, I'd say there is no reason to unlock the Brute.
Fractal grenades would like to have a word with you. Even if I die, I will enter the generator room and take 2-3 people with me thanks to dropping 3 fractals.
Also, maybe it's just me, but I get way more blue plates with the heavy spinfusor than any of the others.
Has anyone tested out the hitboxes on a live server vs. the target practice map with SMGs and Rifles. I was playing around with the mouse settings and noticed it was really easy to score hits, waaaay easier than it feels in multiplayer. I always assumed it was the lag, but now I'm wondering if the target practice map is using different gun mechanics altogether.
Even when I aimed away from the models, my shots would hit with a pretty generous margin for error. Ironically, the spinfusor will totally clip through a player model without hitting; you have to get the center of the disc inside someone before it will explode.
I think I've noticed that about SMG & rifles as well. I was trying out classes as I was unlocking them and found it really easy to hit bots, especially with the fast firing smg. Live I have way more trouble with SMGs than I do with rifles. I know players move much faster than those bots, but the difference feels drastic.
I would wager it has to do with network issues. Against players you have network latency; on the practice range you're 100% local.
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Has anyone tested out the hitboxes on a live server vs. the target practice map with SMGs and Rifles. I was playing around with the mouse settings and noticed it was really easy to score hits, waaaay easier than it feels in multiplayer. I always assumed it was the lag, but now I'm wondering if the target practice map is using different gun mechanics altogether.
Even when I aimed away from the models, my shots would hit with a pretty generous margin for error. Ironically, the spinfusor will totally clip through a player model without hitting; you have to get the center of the disc inside someone before it will explode.
I think I've noticed that about SMG & rifles as well. I was trying out classes as I was unlocking them and found it really easy to hit bots, especially with the fast firing smg. Live I have way more trouble with SMGs than I do with rifles. I know players move much faster than those bots, but the difference feels drastic.
I would wager it has to do with network issues. Against players you have network latency; on the practice range you're 100% local.
Anyone wanna try this out with me on the PA server? We'll stand still and take some shots at each other. I'm curious to see if it really is the same as Target Practice.
What perks do you guys use for playing juggernauts? I haven't unlocked any on mine yet, but I was kinda eyeballing the one that converts aoe damage into power
it was the smallest on the list but
Pluto was a planet and I'll never forget
Also, a blind pick matchmaking system where you're not allowed to pick a team. It's zero fun to be had when there's a team pubstomping.
SO MUCH THIS.
Don't let individuals pick a team. Otherwise, it'll get stacked almost every time.
I would agree to this only when groups are implemented. It's already a pain in the ass joining you folks when I want to play with PA people.
I would rather deal with not always being on the same team as friends than continue to put up with these ridiculous matches. Plus there is always the PA custom server.
What perks do you guys use for playing juggernauts? I haven't unlocked any on mine yet, but I was kinda eyeballing the one that converts aoe damage into power
Potential energy is a pretty important perk to have. It is pretty useful across every class.
So, have the servers been acting all weird for anyone else? On the aus servers, we seemed to have group lag a couple of times a match, and seemed to crash every second one or so. It got a bit better, but still, it was pretty horendous.
Also, doombringer is pretty great. I am a fan. Also, I've been learning routes so that I can put shields and mines (not both at the same time, unfortunately), on all the bits just before people nitro boost. It's sort of working.
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You know what else is BS about fractal grenades?
When I throw one, and only 2 people get hit (and don't die) out of a bunch that run through it.
They're honestly more about area fear/denial than actual effectiveness. you throw one down in a corridor as you're retreating or trying to defend, theoretically this forces the other guy to hold back so you can setup whatever you were planning like killing/defending the gen or giving more time for backup to arrive. Unfortunately in pubs people just run through them like lemmings.
Yeah, I was mostly just refuting the "If I'm anywhere near a fractal grenade I die" sentiment.
Wish I'd unlocked it earlier... got my first blue plate. Then my second. And my third. On the same map.
Also, fractal grenades are a beast indoors, as I've noticed being on the receiving end of them. As I see it, the Brute is a sort of raider/infiltrator, but fat, and less about blowing up the generator as he is "I'm going to go inside your base near your generator and take up your time for a little while so the rest of the team can do their jobs."
.. am I doing it right? ;-)
Also, why is Tybi the only one I've ever seen online, and is that connected to my inability to see the server?
Also also, dodged three separate orbital bombardments as flag carrier in a 4-4 game in overtime. That was excellent.
I was wondering about that server thing myself. I lost the ability to see it a few days ago (not that I saw anyone on it before that)
I haven't seen anyone online in days... figured they just were done playing for now.
Very nice. Mouse feels noticeably better. 8-)
Steam (Ansatz) || GW2 officer (Ansatz.6498)
anyone else having this problem?
So difficult to get certain map's flag routes down to a science.
Thanks for the tip, might just be able to nitron boost without pausing as I ski backwards now.
Even when I aimed away from the models, my shots would hit with a pretty generous margin for error. Ironically, the spinfusor will totally clip through a player model without hitting; you have to get the center of the disc inside someone before it will explode.
omfg... and here I was thinking I'm becoming too old and decrepit to have good aim; apparently not
On the downside, this makes auto weapons completely absurd. I just put down three mediums with a single lmg clip.
I will most likely discover my aim really is that terrible.
Damn that UE3 engine, and their need to consolize every damn thing
Conversely on the PC the difference is noticeable and we don't need the performance.
Steam (Ansatz) || GW2 officer (Ansatz.6498)
Well, I think I will be cutting down on my Tribes play if they don't fix teams. I'm sick of stacks causing unbalanced games. It doesn't matter how well I play. I can only delay the inevitable if I'm up against a stack. Being on the stacked team is no less dull.
The large majority of games I've played in the last few days have been stacked with a bunch of people doing who-knows-what while the real game happens between 4 skilled players on one team versus 2 skilled players on the other. It is just not fun and I really don't see why HiRez can't just make teams random (or better, do proper matchmaking) on pub servers.
Steam (Ansatz) || GW2 officer (Ansatz.6498)
1. Take a little step back from the flag as a PTH comes zooming it.
2. Collect dem points from the kill (as he splats all over my Super Heavy), the defend and the flag return.
If you like playing heavy O, I'd say there is no reason to unlock the Brute.
sounds like some terribad pathfinders, I guess they are a popular choice since they keep telling everyone to "go fast" but flag capping and chasing should really be left to those who either have a natural affinity to it, or practice the runs constantly.
also as long as your team is not terrible (they probably are) I enjoy shooting the flag into a corner or into a place that ruins all capping attempts, but you gotta watch out for idiot team members who just go and return the flag for POINTZ!!!!!
I think I've noticed that about SMG & rifles as well. I was trying out classes as I was unlocking them and found it really easy to hit bots, especially with the fast firing smg. Live I have way more trouble with SMGs than I do with rifles. I know players move much faster than those bots, but the difference feels drastic.
SO MUCH THIS.
Don't let individuals pick a team. Otherwise, it'll get stacked almost every time.
Fractal grenades would like to have a word with you. Even if I die, I will enter the generator room and take 2-3 people with me thanks to dropping 3 fractals.
Also, maybe it's just me, but I get way more blue plates with the heavy spinfusor than any of the others.
I would agree to this only when groups are implemented. It's already a pain in the ass joining you folks when I want to play with PA people.
I would wager it has to do with network issues. Against players you have network latency; on the practice range you're 100% local.
Anyone wanna try this out with me on the PA server? We'll stand still and take some shots at each other. I'm curious to see if it really is the same as Target Practice.
Pluto was a planet and I'll never forget
I would rather deal with not always being on the same team as friends than continue to put up with these ridiculous matches. Plus there is always the PA custom server.
Steam (Ansatz) || GW2 officer (Ansatz.6498)
Potential energy is a pretty important perk to have. It is pretty useful across every class.
Also, doombringer is pretty great. I am a fan. Also, I've been learning routes so that I can put shields and mines (not both at the same time, unfortunately), on all the bits just before people nitro boost. It's sort of working.
Steam // Secret Satan