[GW2]Making a new thread for the BWE. See you guys on Aspenwood soon!

shryke · May 2012

Ragnar Dragonfyre wrote: »

Dedwrekka wrote: »

ironzerg wrote: »

The problem is mounted combat, if done "right" would be superior to being on foot. Thus, EVERYONE would be forced to stay mounted or not be competitive. Unless the devs then tried to balance out being on foot with being mounted. Of course, then you have to not only balance the warrior versus the rogue, but the warrior versus the rogue ON HORSES. But then, what about a rogue using a bow while riding a horse versus a warrior wielding a spear on a horse. Or a necromancer and his minions, etc, etc.

In my mind all is does is essentially double the complexity, without necessarily doubling the fun. Either that or you make it so simple that it's really pointless to begin with.

Except that it doesn't. Foot combat is, in many ways, superior to mounted combat, and there's enough history showing cavalry being utterly destroyed by foot troops (Roman, German, English, Scottish, Japaneese history, ect) and, more recently in history, ranged troops (Agincourt, Charge of the Light Brigade, WWI) . The most basic weapons defeat mounted fighters. Spears, two handed mauls, pikes, these were all very effective against mounted knights. I've always wondered why spears almost never show up in MMOs, as they appear absolutely everywhere in history and fantasy. Anyways, the "right" way of doing it would include a system of heavier armor equating to slower movement, no damage increase except for adding certain "mounted only" weapons, an increased crit chance with melee and a decrease in hit chance with ranged. The ability to basically make mounts a secondary character like a pet instead of the ridiculous implementation that's been tried where they act as a buff, is essential, as it allows players fighting mounted characters to take out the mount but not create a situation where everything you put into the mount is lost when that happens. Realistically, any cripple spell would pretty much kill a charging horse.

You and me both, dude. Spears are my favourite weapon.

Spears were THE FIRST weapon (unless you count a rock or club) mankind created. Pointed stick ftw. The lack of spears in games annoys me to no end. You wouldn't believe my frustration when I saw GW2 had
spears, but were only useable underwater.

It bugs me that RPG's weapon selection has literally become cliche. Swords, Maces, Staves, Bows, Axes, Daggers. Polearms often get cut. Where's the love for the ball 'n chain?

Ball and Chain is a pain in the ass to animate afaik.

Spears are good for formations, not so good for individual combat.

Although, really, GW2 has alot of obvious holes in weapon types that I just assume they'll add eventually if they can design another weapon for each class (polearms, 2H axes, etc)

Draygo · May 2012

Spears are fine for individual combat. Depending on the length of the spear. There are entire fighting styles made for spear use.

Pikes are not.

Ragnar Dragonfyre · May 2012

shryke wrote: »

Ragnar Dragonfyre wrote: »

Dedwrekka wrote: »

ironzerg wrote: »

The problem is mounted combat, if done "right" would be superior to being on foot. Thus, EVERYONE would be forced to stay mounted or not be competitive. Unless the devs then tried to balance out being on foot with being mounted. Of course, then you have to not only balance the warrior versus the rogue, but the warrior versus the rogue ON HORSES. But then, what about a rogue using a bow while riding a horse versus a warrior wielding a spear on a horse. Or a necromancer and his minions, etc, etc.

In my mind all is does is essentially double the complexity, without necessarily doubling the fun. Either that or you make it so simple that it's really pointless to begin with.

Except that it doesn't. Foot combat is, in many ways, superior to mounted combat, and there's enough history showing cavalry being utterly destroyed by foot troops (Roman, German, English, Scottish, Japaneese history, ect) and, more recently in history, ranged troops (Agincourt, Charge of the Light Brigade, WWI) . The most basic weapons defeat mounted fighters. Spears, two handed mauls, pikes, these were all very effective against mounted knights. I've always wondered why spears almost never show up in MMOs, as they appear absolutely everywhere in history and fantasy. Anyways, the "right" way of doing it would include a system of heavier armor equating to slower movement, no damage increase except for adding certain "mounted only" weapons, an increased crit chance with melee and a decrease in hit chance with ranged. The ability to basically make mounts a secondary character like a pet instead of the ridiculous implementation that's been tried where they act as a buff, is essential, as it allows players fighting mounted characters to take out the mount but not create a situation where everything you put into the mount is lost when that happens. Realistically, any cripple spell would pretty much kill a charging horse.

You and me both, dude. Spears are my favourite weapon.

Spears were THE FIRST weapon (unless you count a rock or club) mankind created. Pointed stick ftw. The lack of spears in games annoys me to no end. You wouldn't believe my frustration when I saw GW2 had
spears, but were only useable underwater.

It bugs me that RPG's weapon selection has literally become cliche. Swords, Maces, Staves, Bows, Axes, Daggers. Polearms often get cut. Where's the love for the ball 'n chain?

Ball and Chain is a pain in the ass to animate afaik.

Spears are good for formations, not so good for individual combat.

Although, really, GW2 has alot of obvious holes in weapon types that I just assume they'll add eventually if they can design another weapon for each class (polearms, 2H axes, etc)

I'm an animator and that excuse is just that... an excuse. Asheron's Call 2 had flails and that game came out 10 years ago now.

Most animators are dying for a challenge. Cleaning up mocap data grows stale.

Draygo · May 2012

I would imagine its more of a problem from the design from square one sort of thing than just 'animation'

What classes would use it?
What sort of interesting skills can we give it to make it unique to the mace. (lets be honest ball and chain practically does the same job as the mace, bashes people with blunt force)

Spear on the other hand I can come up with a unique role for. Its a thrusting weapon, with some blunt options. Vs the Axe/sword which are slashing motions, and mace/hammer which is blunt.

Darkewolfe · May 2012

Spear definitely came out in an expansion for GW1. We can always hope they're holding some classes/weapons for later.

Sentret · May 2012

'More weapons' seems like clearly delicious expansion territory. Like; You're travelling to this cool other place, and over there, mesmers use whips! So now you can learn their secret badass combat discipline.

steejee · May 2012

Draygo wrote: »

I would imagine its more of a problem from the design from square one sort of thing than just 'animation'

What classes would use it?
What sort of interesting skills can we give it to make it unique to the mace. (lets be honest ball and chain practically does the same job as the mace, bashes people with blunt force)

Spear on the other hand I can come up with a unique role for. Its a thrusting weapon, with some blunt options. Vs the Axe/sword which are slashing motions, and mace/hammer which is blunt.

Game already has Shortbow and Longbow - I had those equipped as my two weapons to make a pure ranged ranger. The weapon skill system lets them very easily distinguish any new weapon they want, regardless of how close to another weapon it would be in the real world.

Edit: And yes, I realize there are major differences between those two bows in reality, just in MMO/RPG world it can be hard to truly distinguish weapons without making one completely irrelevant

Darkewolfe · May 2012

Alright, so, main-hand shield for one character which is a combo initiator, and then pike for another character that has the "finisher" for the combo.

doomybear · May 2012

Darkewolfe wrote: »

Spear definitely came out in an expansion for GW1. We can always hope they're holding some classes/weapons for later.

To be fair, that was more of a javelin.

Edit: I'd kind of like to see corsair made into a profession, although I suppose they would come out with another heavy armor profession (Samurai? Maybe an arcane heavy armor user as opposed to mystical one?) before adding any more adventurer or scholar ones (my only reasoning being that there are 2 heavy armor users instead of 3).

steejee · May 2012

I just want Scythes back. I'd switch to whatever class could use scythes in a heartbeat.

I love polearm weapons, but the GW1 spear never appealed to me, as doomybear said it was more of a javelin than a spear.

SwashbucklerXX · May 2012

Ragnar Dragonfyre wrote: »

shryke wrote: »

Ragnar Dragonfyre wrote: »

Dedwrekka wrote: »

ironzerg wrote: »

The problem is mounted combat, if done "right" would be superior to being on foot. Thus, EVERYONE would be forced to stay mounted or not be competitive. Unless the devs then tried to balance out being on foot with being mounted. Of course, then you have to not only balance the warrior versus the rogue, but the warrior versus the rogue ON HORSES. But then, what about a rogue using a bow while riding a horse versus a warrior wielding a spear on a horse. Or a necromancer and his minions, etc, etc.

In my mind all is does is essentially double the complexity, without necessarily doubling the fun. Either that or you make it so simple that it's really pointless to begin with.

Except that it doesn't. Foot combat is, in many ways, superior to mounted combat, and there's enough history showing cavalry being utterly destroyed by foot troops (Roman, German, English, Scottish, Japaneese history, ect) and, more recently in history, ranged troops (Agincourt, Charge of the Light Brigade, WWI) . The most basic weapons defeat mounted fighters. Spears, two handed mauls, pikes, these were all very effective against mounted knights. I've always wondered why spears almost never show up in MMOs, as they appear absolutely everywhere in history and fantasy. Anyways, the "right" way of doing it would include a system of heavier armor equating to slower movement, no damage increase except for adding certain "mounted only" weapons, an increased crit chance with melee and a decrease in hit chance with ranged. The ability to basically make mounts a secondary character like a pet instead of the ridiculous implementation that's been tried where they act as a buff, is essential, as it allows players fighting mounted characters to take out the mount but not create a situation where everything you put into the mount is lost when that happens. Realistically, any cripple spell would pretty much kill a charging horse.

You and me both, dude. Spears are my favourite weapon.

Spears were THE FIRST weapon (unless you count a rock or club) mankind created. Pointed stick ftw. The lack of spears in games annoys me to no end. You wouldn't believe my frustration when I saw GW2 had
spears, but were only useable underwater.

It bugs me that RPG's weapon selection has literally become cliche. Swords, Maces, Staves, Bows, Axes, Daggers. Polearms often get cut. Where's the love for the ball 'n chain?

Ball and Chain is a pain in the ass to animate afaik.

Spears are good for formations, not so good for individual combat.

Although, really, GW2 has alot of obvious holes in weapon types that I just assume they'll add eventually if they can design another weapon for each class (polearms, 2H axes, etc)

I'm an animator and that excuse is just that... an excuse. Asheron's Call 2 had flails and that game came out 10 years ago now.

Most animators are dying for a challenge. Cleaning up mocap data grows stale.

ANet has some amazing animators on board, too. Seen the ranger raven pet? I was running around with one for quite a while just to watch it fly behind me, alternating gliding and flapping, looking like a real bird. Then there are the small animated effects they added. Next BWE, go find a Hylek (frog dude) NPC in Lion's Arch and watch it for a few minutes.

They could totally handle animating unusual weapons like a ball and chain or flail. And they've already said they plan to add new weapons in expansions, so we'll see what they do!

TraitorMagnus · May 2012

SwashbucklerXX wrote: »

Next BWE, go find a Hylek (frog dude) NPC in Lion's Arch and watch it for a few minutes.

It was stupid how cool it was when one I was talking to shot his tongue out.

Fletchsm · May 2012

TraitorMagnus wrote: »

SwashbucklerXX wrote: »

Next BWE, go find a Hylek (frog dude) NPC in Lion's Arch and watch it for a few minutes.

It was stupid how cool it was when one I was talking to shot his tongue out.

Beatd ... I wanted to be one as a main character race

TraitorMagnus · May 2012

Fletchsm wrote: »

Beatd ... I wanted to be one as a main character race

They've got to have something to sell the expansions with!

GONG-00 · May 2012

steejee wrote: »

I just want Scythes back. I'd switch to whatever class could use scythes in a heartbeat.

Probably not what you are looking for specifically, but a shadowy scythe blade appears at the end of a necromancer's staff when attacking.

Sejarki · May 2012

SwashbucklerXX wrote: »

They could totally handle animating unusual weapons like a ball and chain or flail. And they've already said they plan to add new weapons in expansions, so we'll see what they do!

I hope to see them take it further. Sectional staves and meteor hammers. Lots of unexplored territory in Chinese weapons especially. Though really I'd be glad for any MMO to implement interesting stuff like that.

Kadoken · May 2012

am0n wrote: »

Buddies wrote: »

How about that back slot WaM? Can we expect more than just cloaks? Like how engineers can run around with camping backpacks? Could my warrior get a ruck sack? How about a turtle shell to slap on my back, or a shield that is just on my back for looks instead of being usable(would people think that's dumb?).

What about guild banner I could put on there? Or a Shark Fin so I can just swim around Dreadmere lake keep, scaring anyone that wishes to assault it? Dun un... dun un.. dun un..

Or turning them off. That's a good choice, too!

Did somebody say... Cloaks? Can we wear coats and cloaks over our armor? Because that would be wonderful.

Edit : those frog guys were funny. Once we were waiting for Jeyvaz to come to the mists do we could go to the both area, and we watched one for a bit. It lashed its tongue out on my norm friend's face. First time I saw it I said "What the shit is that thing?"

Enig · May 2012

I don't think there are any cloaks in the game at the moment.

doomybear · May 2012

There might be some accommodation in town clothes, but there don't appear to be any for combat.

Corehealer · May 2012

I thought we've been over this @Arthil, little girls with cookies only give you indigestion.

Hewn · May 2012

TraitorMagnus wrote: »

Fletchsm wrote: »

Beatd ... I wanted to be one as a main character race

They've got to have something to sell the expansions with!

My buddy said, "I know the next race."

Me, "What? How?"

"Just look at that frog. Look at him. We're going to play him."

reVerse · May 2012

Tengu tengu tengu tengu tengu tengu tengu tengu

katana katana

I do wish they add quarterstaffs into the game at some point. It'd be nice to have caster staves and melee combat staves.

SwashbucklerXX · May 2012

reVerse wrote: »

Tengu tengu tengu tengu tengu tengu tengu tengu

My husband wants to play a tengu so bad. He made me ask the Guild Wars guys when we'd get to play tengu. They just chuckled at me.

Enig · May 2012

Yeah I am hoping for tengu in an expansion.

There's quite a few interesting races in Tyria.

Caedere · May 2012

Tengu + naginata.

I would never play a charr again if they did that.

Halfmex · May 2012

I'd love to play a Tengu. I might even name him Harvey.

doomybear · May 2012

Tengu are the obvious choice. Centaurs might happen, too, but I have to wonder how they'd fit into a Siege Golem. Nagas were apparently peaceful until the Jade Wind killed most of them, leaving the rest to seek revenge on humanity, but snakes aren't exactly popular (see ophidiophobia). Skritt aren't smart enough if they aren't in groups, and Jotun and Kodan don't appear to ever become available, and harpies introduce the issue of "Why can't I fly?" Undead might be possible - Palawa Joko is a despot, but the Charr aren't exactly a nice governing body, either.

On the other hand, ArenaNet may just invent an entirely new race altogether, like they did with the Sylvari.

Tulabelle · May 2012

Draygo wrote: »

What classes would use it?
What sort of interesting skills can we give it to make it unique to the mace. (lets be honest ball and chain practically does the same job as the mace, bashes people with blunt force)

Well, the great sword is in game and works very different for my Mesmer then it does another person's Warrior.

Darkewolfe · May 2012

Corporeal spirits aren't incredibly uncommon either. I can totally see that being a race if they do an Underworld expansion.

Enig · May 2012

I would find it highly amusing to play as mini-hivemind group of 4 skritt.

I'm not sure ANet will make the "minor" races (skritt, quaggan, hylek, grawl, etc) playable though.

Darkewolfe · May 2012

Enig wrote: »

I would find it highly amusing to play as mini-hivemind group of 4 skritt.

I'm not sure ANet will make the "minor" races (skritt, quaggan, hylek, grawl, etc) playable though.

More importantly, can we play Whiptail Devourers?

I wouldn't be surprised if post-All Father dwarves, or some undiscovered faction of dwarves that are ignoring the call of the All Father, or something, is a race. Seers are also a possibility, we barely explored them.

Corehealer · May 2012

Enig wrote: »

Yeah I am hoping for tengu in an expansion.

There's quite a few interesting races in Tyria.

Even though we usually fight them in games, and make internet memes about them, and this game in particular has you fighting giant versions of them, I'd still like to play as a Dragon.

Now I have an even bigger reason to kill Elder Dragons. You didn't just steal Cthulhu's groove, you stole any hope I have of being a Dragon in GW2 beyond some hail mary macguffin plot twist down the road. And that's personal.

DaemonSadi · May 2012

Can anyone re link the instructions on how to set up the music folder?

We should really have that in the OP.

I wanna start putting mine together now.

Enig · May 2012

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/audio/Choosing-our-own-music/page/1#post160329

Under [Your Name]\Documents\Guild Wars Gw2Dev folder, you’ll see that GW2 creates a Music folder next to the Screens folder (where screenshots go). All you need to do to get your external music collection playing in the game is to create a playlist of the appropriate name and type in this folder.

Supported playlist formats are .wpl, .m3u, .pls, .asx, and .wax.

Supported audio types are everything FMOD supports by default, which includes .mp3, .ogg, .flac, .wav. aiff, and a bunch of old-school music formats, like .mid or .it files.

There are eight specific playlists the game recognizes, and these are designated simply by the playlist’s file name. They are: Ambient, Battle, Underwater, City, Crafting, BossBattle, NightTime, and MainMenu.

I am highly tempted to create a BossBattle playlist from Final Fantasy tunes.

Dedwrekka · May 2012

Arkady wrote: »

Entaru wrote: »

Arkady wrote: »

Entaru wrote: »

Arkady wrote: »

Darkewolfe wrote: »

Arkady, your opinions are terrible and you should feel bad.

Oh man I sure am excited to spend 5 minutes running through copy pasted trees and terrain while I dodge or just straight run from every enemy in my path that doesn't have a fancy name to get to the next heart or DE I run into! I sure am excited to do this 50 times per zone! This is the height of gameplay and really defines the world for me.

It's a cheat to skip content. If you're not enjoying the content why are you playing the game?

Because the content that is comprised of auto-running and avoiding fights is only part of the wide-range of content that I would actually like to engage in.

But the content of the game is in those areas you think nothing is going on. I have many examples where I thought I was just running through an area to get somewhere else and I ended up being side tracked by countless DE's and going off to explore new places. You'd miss a lot of the game just skipping over places you "thought" had nothing there.

That is completely fine. Given the choice between puttering around looking for something I think would be cool to do or going somewhere I know there is something cool to do, I will choose the latter and you can choose the former and we will both be happy. I do not see the issue here?

Edit: @arthil hell yes to boats!

How can he do the former if it's completely false, and thus doesn't exist?

Peccavi · May 2012

Jim Boer wrote:

I remember an interview a while ago where it was stated that there’d be an in-game option to customize our soundtrack. Like, replace tracks that played at certain points with others.

Was that cut, or is it just not in yet? I loved the idea of this feature!

It’s actually in and working, but the feature wasn’t publicly documented. Here’s how it currently works:

Under [Your Name]\Documents\Guild Wars Gw2Dev folder, you’ll see that GW2 creates a Music folder next to the Screens folder (where screenshots go). All you need to do to get your external music collection playing in the game is to create a playlist of the appropriate name and type in this folder.

Supported playlist formats are .wpl, .m3u, .pls, .asx, and .wax.

Supported audio types are everything FMOD supports by default, which includes .mp3, .ogg, .flac, .wav. aiff, and a bunch of old-school music formats, like .mid or .it files.

There are eight specific playlists the game recognizes, and these are designated simply by the playlist’s file name. They are: Ambient, Battle, Underwater, City, Crafting, BossBattle, NightTime, and MainMenu. Hopefully these are somewhat self-explanatory in terms of when you might expect to hear them play.

So, for example, if you create a playlist called Ambient.m3u, anything in that playlist will be heard instead of the standard in-game ambient music (the general music you hear when running around in the world).

Each internal playlist can designate a primary and secondary playlist to look for. Most of the playlists will fall back to Ambient if they do not exist. This means that if you’d like to simply replace the majority of the music in the game, you can just create an Ambient playlist, or maybe just Ambient and Battle. However, if you really want to customize your playlist in detail, you can create the more specialized playlists such as NightTime or Crafting.

The easiest (and at the moment, the only) way to test this is with a MainMenu playlist, since that will replace the music at the login screen.

Dedwrekka · May 2012

shryke wrote: »

Dedwrekka wrote: »

ironzerg wrote: »

The problem is mounted combat, if done "right" would be superior to being on foot. Thus, EVERYONE would be forced to stay mounted or not be competitive. Unless the devs then tried to balance out being on foot with being mounted. Of course, then you have to not only balance the warrior versus the rogue, but the warrior versus the rogue ON HORSES. But then, what about a rogue using a bow while riding a horse versus a warrior wielding a spear on a horse. Or a necromancer and his minions, etc, etc.

In my mind all is does is essentially double the complexity, without necessarily doubling the fun. Either that or you make it so simple that it's really pointless to begin with.

Except that it doesn't. Foot combat is, in many ways, superior to mounted combat, and there's enough history showing cavalry being utterly destroyed by foot troops (Roman, German, English, Scottish, Japaneese history, ect) and, more recently in history, ranged troops (Agincourt, Charge of the Light Brigade, WWI) . The most basic weapons defeat mounted fighters. Spears, two handed mauls, pikes, these were all very effective against mounted knights. I've always wondered why spears almost never show up in MMOs, as they appear absolutely everywhere in history and fantasy. Anyways, the "right" way of doing it would include a system of heavier armor equating to slower movement, no damage increase except for adding certain "mounted only" weapons, an increased crit chance with melee and a decrease in hit chance with ranged. The ability to basically make mounts a secondary character like a pet instead of the ridiculous implementation that's been tried where they act as a buff, is essential, as it allows players fighting mounted characters to take out the mount but not create a situation where everything you put into the mount is lost when that happens. Realistically, any cripple spell would pretty much kill a charging horse.

Right, so exactly like ironzerg said, it's a huge complication to the combat system. For little to no purpose.

Because it feels silly walking into the Charr capitol and seeing all the utterly useless tank and bike statues (which I must assume that they are, since no one will ever be shown riding one), or fighting to save horses that no one ever rides, or later going to the asura homeland to check out the golems that...oh wait, you actually can ride in a golem.

No mounts in a game world where mounts exist is just as silly as a game where cavalry exists but you can't fight on the back of your mount, or where the mount is only the metaphysical manifestation of a "mount" buff.

Yougottawanna wrote: »

Buddies wrote: »

How about that back slot WaM? Can we expect more than just cloaks? Like how engineers can run around with camping backpacks? Could my warrior get a ruck sack? How about a turtle shell to slap on my back, or a shield that is just on my back for looks instead of being usable(would people think that's dumb?).

What about guild banner I could put on there? Or a Shark Fin so I can just swim around Dreadmere lake keep, scaring anyone that wishes to assault it? Dun un... dun un.. dun un..

I want a cloak that looks like an overcoat that I drape over my shoulders without putting my hands in the sleeves. Example:

I've always liked this look. It would go great with a pirate outfit. Make it happen Arenanet.

Coming to you live from a world where nobody seems to know what sleeves are and the lining of your jacket is actually duct tape.

shryke wrote: »

Spears are good for formations, not so good for individual combat.

Ahem

Peccavi · May 2012

Oh hey, Enig already posted that and I completely missed it.

Arch · May 2012

SwashbucklerXX wrote: »

Ragnar Dragonfyre wrote: »

shryke wrote: »

Ragnar Dragonfyre wrote: »

Dedwrekka wrote: »

ironzerg wrote: »

The problem is mounted combat, if done "right" would be superior to being on foot. Thus, EVERYONE would be forced to stay mounted or not be competitive. Unless the devs then tried to balance out being on foot with being mounted. Of course, then you have to not only balance the warrior versus the rogue, but the warrior versus the rogue ON HORSES. But then, what about a rogue using a bow while riding a horse versus a warrior wielding a spear on a horse. Or a necromancer and his minions, etc, etc.

In my mind all is does is essentially double the complexity, without necessarily doubling the fun. Either that or you make it so simple that it's really pointless to begin with.

Except that it doesn't. Foot combat is, in many ways, superior to mounted combat, and there's enough history showing cavalry being utterly destroyed by foot troops (Roman, German, English, Scottish, Japaneese history, ect) and, more recently in history, ranged troops (Agincourt, Charge of the Light Brigade, WWI) . The most basic weapons defeat mounted fighters. Spears, two handed mauls, pikes, these were all very effective against mounted knights. I've always wondered why spears almost never show up in MMOs, as they appear absolutely everywhere in history and fantasy. Anyways, the "right" way of doing it would include a system of heavier armor equating to slower movement, no damage increase except for adding certain "mounted only" weapons, an increased crit chance with melee and a decrease in hit chance with ranged. The ability to basically make mounts a secondary character like a pet instead of the ridiculous implementation that's been tried where they act as a buff, is essential, as it allows players fighting mounted characters to take out the mount but not create a situation where everything you put into the mount is lost when that happens. Realistically, any cripple spell would pretty much kill a charging horse.

You and me both, dude. Spears are my favourite weapon.

Spears were THE FIRST weapon (unless you count a rock or club) mankind created. Pointed stick ftw. The lack of spears in games annoys me to no end. You wouldn't believe my frustration when I saw GW2 had
spears, but were only useable underwater.

It bugs me that RPG's weapon selection has literally become cliche. Swords, Maces, Staves, Bows, Axes, Daggers. Polearms often get cut. Where's the love for the ball 'n chain?

Ball and Chain is a pain in the ass to animate afaik.

Spears are good for formations, not so good for individual combat.

Although, really, GW2 has alot of obvious holes in weapon types that I just assume they'll add eventually if they can design another weapon for each class (polearms, 2H axes, etc)

I'm an animator and that excuse is just that... an excuse. Asheron's Call 2 had flails and that game came out 10 years ago now.

Most animators are dying for a challenge. Cleaning up mocap data grows stale.

ANet has some amazing animators on board, too. Seen the ranger raven pet? I was running around with one for quite a while just to watch it fly behind me, alternating gliding and flapping, looking like a real bird. Then there are the small animated effects they added. Next BWE, go find a Hylek (frog dude) NPC in Lion's Arch and watch it for a few minutes.

They could totally handle animating unusual weapons like a ball and chain or flail. And they've already said they plan to add new weapons in expansions, so we'll see what they do!

Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a source?

Arch · May 2012

Because then I can get my hype-hope machine running for spears as well

:}

Penny Arcade

[GW2]Making a new thread for the BWE. See you guys on Aspenwood soon!

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