You know what? If the Republicans want to expand the military, fine. Good. More jobs, whatever.
But fucking pay for it.
And gutting programs that make America worth defending doesn't count and I'm getting sick of them getting away with acting like it does.
"Oh, you want student loans protected? Okay, well hope you like fucking over women lololol."
Fuck you. Pay your taxes like a good citizen should.
No! It's MY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!
YOU WOULDN'T HAVE IT WITHOUT SOCIETY! IT'S NOT LIKE YOU WENT TO CHURCH ONE DAY AND THE CRUCIFIX STARTED VOMITING CASH AT YOU
The collection plate is there to gather for those less fortunate. Since I'm less fortunate than Bill Gates, I'm totally justified in making regular withdrawls. If I wasn't meant to make withdrawls it would be a box with a coin slot and not an open plate.
The GOP is shooting themselves in the foot with that line. A lot of women are also college students.
What are they doing there?
The House's first pass at keeping interest rates on student loans from doubling in July was by defunding a healthcare service used by women.
Sorry, that was my poor, 'What are women doing in college?' joke
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AManFromEarthLet's get to twerk!The King in the SwampRegistered Userregular
You know what? If the Republicans want to expand the military, fine. Good. More jobs, whatever.
But fucking pay for it.
And gutting programs that make America worth defending doesn't count and I'm getting sick of them getting away with acting like it does.
"Oh, you want student loans protected? Okay, well hope you like fucking over women lololol."
Fuck you. Pay your taxes like a good citizen should.
No! It's MY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!
YOU WOULDN'T HAVE IT WITHOUT SOCIETY! IT'S NOT LIKE YOU WENT TO CHURCH ONE DAY AND THE CRUCIFIX STARTED VOMITING CASH AT YOU
The collection plate is there to gather for those less fortunate. Since I'm less fortunate than Bill Gates, I'm totally justified in making regular withdrawls. If I wasn't meant to make withdrawls it would be a box with a coin slot and not an open plate.
The GOP is shooting themselves in the foot with that line. A lot of women are also college students.
What are they doing there?
The House's first pass at keeping interest rates on student loans from doubling in July was by defunding a healthcare service used by women.
Furthermore, they're trying to tell college students "HURR HURR OBAMA HATES YOU," and women "HURR HURR OBAMA HATES YOU." Quite fascinating, trying to pit the presidents major demographics against each other. Of course, there are female college students.
The GOP has spent four years trying to enact horrible policies and actively hurting the country (forcing sequestration and causing a false crisis that lowered our credit rating) and now they're saying all of these things were Obama's fault.
It makes me want to punch a kitten. And I love kittens.
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Not the best rationale IMO. If you tax them their profits aren't going to change that much. One of the resident econs can correct me on that if I'm wrong.
Anyways I was just pointing out that repealing these subsidies will hurt the renewables industry far more than it will hurt Big Oil.
Sorry for the brevity im on my phone.
Please consider the environment before printing this post.
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AManFromEarthLet's get to twerk!The King in the SwampRegistered Userregular
You know what? If the Republicans want to expand the military, fine. Good. More jobs, whatever.
But fucking pay for it.
And gutting programs that make America worth defending doesn't count and I'm getting sick of them getting away with acting like it does.
"Oh, you want student loans protected? Okay, well hope you like fucking over women lololol."
Fuck you. Pay your taxes like a good citizen should.
No! It's MY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!
YOU WOULDN'T HAVE IT WITHOUT SOCIETY! IT'S NOT LIKE YOU WENT TO CHURCH ONE DAY AND THE CRUCIFIX STARTED VOMITING CASH AT YOU
The collection plate is there to gather for those less fortunate. Since I'm less fortunate than Bill Gates, I'm totally justified in making regular withdrawls. If I wasn't meant to make withdrawls it would be a box with a coin slot and not an open plate.
The GOP is shooting themselves in the foot with that line. A lot of women are also college students.
What are they doing there?
The House's first pass at keeping interest rates on student loans from doubling in July was by defunding a healthcare service used by women.
Sorry, that was my poor, 'What are women doing in college?' joke
Not the best rationale IMO. If you tax them their profits aren't going to change that much. One of the resident econs can correct me on that if I'm wrong.
Anyways I was just pointing out that repealing these subsidies will hurt the renewables industry far more than it will hurt Big Oil.
Sorry for the brevity im on my phone.
Except you didn't point out anything, and I don't see how not giving Exxon and such billions of dollars a year for shit they would do anyway has a thing to do with solar panels and wind turbines.
Not the best rationale IMO. If you tax them their profits aren't going to change that much. One of the resident econs can correct me on that if I'm wrong.
Anyways I was just pointing out that repealing these subsidies will hurt the renewables industry far more than it will hurt Big Oil.
Sorry for the brevity im on my phone.
Except you didn't point out anything, and I don't see how not giving Exxon and such billions of dollars a year for shit they would do anyway has a thing to do with solar panels and wind turbines.
I fucked up and didn't quote in my last post. Unknown had provided a link describing the energy subsidies. $1b of the $4b goes to a much smaller renewables industry. Repeal the subsidies and you take away a larger portion relative to industry size from businesses that are much less likely to be able to simply raise prices to compensate.
Please consider the environment before printing this post.
Right, which is why nobody said anything about repealing all the subsidies, just the ones to companies that already make hundreds of billions a year.
Haha so call it a special oil tax then if that's what people want. And don't link me something that talks about all energy subsidies and cite me a $4b number when the real number is $300m.
Please consider the environment before printing this post.
Right, which is why nobody said anything about repealing all the subsidies, just the ones to companies that already make hundreds of billions a year.
Haha so call it a special oil tax then if that's what people want. And don't link me something that talks about all energy subsidies and cite me a $4b number when the real number is $300m.
I think Sir Landshark has fallen victim to the GOP framing of 'everything that makes one pay more is a tax or increase in taxes'. Lower taxes has proven a winning narrative for them, so they apply it to everything.
Also the least you could do is read the very report I linked you to. I actually had to spend an extra 20 seconds on Google to get through all the partisan bullshit so as not to give you numbers directly from a petroleum lobbying firm.
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EUCLID, Ohio — Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney didn’t comment on a supporter’s assertion that President Barack Obama should be tried for treason at a town hall event here.
A woman in the audience expressed dismay that Obama was “operating outside the Constitution,” then said Obama should be tried for treason for violating separation of powers.
“I do believe he should be tried for treason,” she said to applause from the audience.
Romney replied that “I happen to believe that the Constitution was not just brilliant, but that it was inspired, and so was the Declaration of Independence,” avoiding the woman’s comment.
Your GOP voters and candidate, everyone. Tip your waitress.
Oh, seriously Romney, that's a fucking lame retort, even for you.
"The President has violated the Constitution and the Separation of Powers! He's committing treason!" "How exactly is he doing that? What the hell are you talking about? I mean, there are plenty of valid reasons to not support Obama, but accusing him of treason? Get some perspective, people. Seriously." "Yeah, the Constitution is awesome."
Nah, I think he just did it out of shock and curiosity. If someone said that to me I'd be curious as hell to find out why they thought this crazy thing.
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Nah, I think he just did it out of shock and curiosity. If someone said that to me I'd be curious as hell to find out why they thought this crazy thing.
I would want to know too, but that isn't a profitable line of questioning when it is happening on camera.
...and when you are done with that; take a folding
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Nah, I think he just did it out of shock and curiosity. If someone said that to me I'd be curious as hell to find out why they thought this crazy thing.
I would want to know too, but that isn't a profitable line of questioning when it is happening on camera.
But when has saying something on camera that makes him look horrible or beyond inept ever even caused Mitt to bat an eye?
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touche.
But I was talking about competent people.
...and when you are done with that; take a folding
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
"Under President Obama's watch, European governments fell to socialist takeovers the like of which haven't been seen since the Iron Curtain!"
I wonder if they're even capable of realizing why that's happening or recognizing that it will almost certainly happen here if we march headlong into austerity
EUCLID, Ohio — Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney didn’t comment on a supporter’s assertion that President Barack Obama should be tried for treason at a town hall event here.
A woman in the audience expressed dismay that Obama was “operating outside the Constitution,” then said Obama should be tried for treason for violating separation of powers.
“I do believe he should be tried for treason,” she said to applause from the audience.
Romney replied that “I happen to believe that the Constitution was not just brilliant, but that it was inspired, and so was the Declaration of Independence,” avoiding the woman’s comment.
Your GOP voters and candidate, everyone. Tip your waitress.
Oh, seriously Romney, that's a fucking lame retort, even for you.
"The President has violated the Constitution and the Separation of Powers! He's committing treason!" "How exactly is he doing that? What the hell are you talking about? I mean, there are plenty of valid reasons to not support Obama, but accusing him of treason? Get some perspective, people. Seriously." "Yeah, the Constitution is awesome."
I wonder how much these people would bitch if they're Hybrid-clone-of-Reagan-Washington-and-someone-else theoretical President flat out made a rule restricting rights from anyone foreign and gay, and put anyone against said law under house arrest. Actually no, I don't wonder. I weep about that.
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Speaking with Republicans like my parents is an exercise in frustration, especially my dad.
Somehow we got talking about the 9/11 First Responders health care act, and he said that if they closed the tax loopholes that would have funded it, all of the businesses and rich people would just leave the United States immediately.
He's also under the impression that, somehow, the sub-prime mortgages were the only reason for this economic disaster we're in, and not the 41 trillion dollar debt-based phantom economy that was created after deregulation.
This is the GOP base. I love my pops, but he's so far out of touch right now it's kind of sad.
Yeah, if we didn't give someone extra free money they wouldn't engage in the literally most profitable business on the planet. It's like the Republicans aren't even trying anymore.
Most profitable legal* business.
Sadly, no one seems to be discussing the possibility of removing price support and subsidy for the narcotics business.
*For values of "Legal" equal or less than 'don't look too closely'.
The guy who writes their daily polling round up is pretty good, that's usually the only thing I read.
yeah, some of their writers are okay. The couple guys who write primarily opinion/takedown stuff are kind of stupidly strident, though. I guess they know their audience, but still.
it was the smallest on the list but
Pluto was a planet and I'll never forget
Speaking with Republicans like my parents is an exercise in frustration, especially my dad.
Somehow we got talking about the 9/11 First Responders health care act, and he said that if they closed the tax loopholes that would have funded it, all of the businesses and rich people would just leave the United States immediately.
He's also under the impression that, somehow, the sub-prime mortgages were the only reason for this economic disaster we're in, and not the 41 trillion dollar debt-based phantom economy that was created after deregulation.
This is the GOP base. I love my pops, but he's so far out of touch right now it's kind of sad.
there's still a pretty amazingly low level of understanding of the causes of the recently financial mess. I guess because it's a complicated topic that even the best observers don't have a complete grip on, but still.
it was the smallest on the list but
Pluto was a planet and I'll never forget
Speaking with Republicans like my parents is an exercise in frustration, especially my dad.
Somehow we got talking about the 9/11 First Responders health care act, and he said that if they closed the tax loopholes that would have funded it, all of the businesses and rich people would justleave the United States immediately.
Tell daddy they can move to the moon, until they change citizenship (and they wont) the U.S. will find them. They can throw as big a tantrum they want, because if they do change citizenship, unless it's Somalia, they will end up paying more.
The collection plate is there to gather for those less fortunate. Since I'm less fortunate than Bill Gates, I'm totally justified in making regular withdrawls. If I wasn't meant to make withdrawls it would be a box with a coin slot and not an open plate.
uh, what? The collection plate in every church I've been to was for the church. There are separate funds for the unfortunate (look up Catholic Charities/ Society of St. Vincent de Paul.
Hehheh, whoopsie! I'm so used to calling people certain things I don't even think about it.
Like, I almost never call Scat, replace/displace; never call Tibbly (anything really) "iRevert." Etc. Don't you have the "u" and "r" flipped in your gamer-tag, Burtle?
Yeah, if we didn't give someone extra free money they wouldn't engage in the literally most profitable business on the planet. It's like the Republicans aren't even trying anymore.
Most profitable legal* business.
Sadly, no one seems to be discussing the possibility of removing price support and subsidy for the narcotics business.
*For values of "Legal" equal or less than 'don't look too closely'.
What? The oil market alone absolutely crushes the illegal drug trade in size. Like, so badly it's not even funny.
Yeah, if we didn't give someone extra free money they wouldn't engage in the literally most profitable business on the planet. It's like the Republicans aren't even trying anymore.
Most profitable legal* business.
Sadly, no one seems to be discussing the possibility of removing price support and subsidy for the narcotics business.
*For values of "Legal" equal or less than 'don't look too closely'.
What? The oil market alone absolutely crushes the illegal drug trade in size. Like, so badly it's not even funny.
But not, perhaps in profitability (As in dollars profit relative to dollars spent)
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Sorry, that was my poor, 'What are women doing in college?' joke
The GOP has spent four years trying to enact horrible policies and actively hurting the country (forcing sequestration and causing a false crisis that lowered our credit rating) and now they're saying all of these things were Obama's fault.
It makes me want to punch a kitten. And I love kittens.
Anyways I was just pointing out that repealing these subsidies will hurt the renewables industry far more than it will hurt Big Oil.
Sorry for the brevity im on my phone.
Hahaha, sorry I missed that.
Except you didn't point out anything, and I don't see how not giving Exxon and such billions of dollars a year for shit they would do anyway has a thing to do with solar panels and wind turbines.
Casual sexing, because they are godless!
I fucked up and didn't quote in my last post. Unknown had provided a link describing the energy subsidies. $1b of the $4b goes to a much smaller renewables industry. Repeal the subsidies and you take away a larger portion relative to industry size from businesses that are much less likely to be able to simply raise prices to compensate.
Haha so call it a special oil tax then if that's what people want. And don't link me something that talks about all energy subsidies and cite me a $4b number when the real number is $300m.
What?
That's not, uhhhh, $300mil
Also the least you could do is read the very report I linked you to. I actually had to spend an extra 20 seconds on Google to get through all the partisan bullshit so as not to give you numbers directly from a petroleum lobbying firm.
It just may be a little bit worse than that:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/07/1089521/-Why-did-Mitt-Romney-invite-treason-accuser-to-elaborate-
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
I would want to know too, but that isn't a profitable line of questioning when it is happening on camera.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
But when has saying something on camera that makes him look horrible or beyond inept ever even caused Mitt to bat an eye?
But I was talking about competent people.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
still, it's kind of disappointing that he didn't at least gently disagree with her
Pluto was a planet and I'll never forget
I wonder if they're even capable of realizing why that's happening or recognizing that it will almost certainly happen here if we march headlong into austerity
They don't have a tone anymore. Once they opened it up to public articles, it all became rage, with just a dash of martyrdom for flavor.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
I only stick to the front page.
I wonder how much these people would bitch if they're Hybrid-clone-of-Reagan-Washington-and-someone-else theoretical President flat out made a rule restricting rights from anyone foreign and gay, and put anyone against said law under house arrest. Actually no, I don't wonder. I weep about that.
3DS FC: 4699-5714-8940 Playing Pokemon, add me! Ho, SATAN!
Somehow we got talking about the 9/11 First Responders health care act, and he said that if they closed the tax loopholes that would have funded it, all of the businesses and rich people would just leave the United States immediately.
He's also under the impression that, somehow, the sub-prime mortgages were the only reason for this economic disaster we're in, and not the 41 trillion dollar debt-based phantom economy that was created after deregulation.
This is the GOP base. I love my pops, but he's so far out of touch right now it's kind of sad.
Most profitable legal* business.
Sadly, no one seems to be discussing the possibility of removing price support and subsidy for the narcotics business.
*For values of "Legal" equal or less than 'don't look too closely'.
yeah, some of their writers are okay. The couple guys who write primarily opinion/takedown stuff are kind of stupidly strident, though. I guess they know their audience, but still.
Pluto was a planet and I'll never forget
there's still a pretty amazingly low level of understanding of the causes of the recently financial mess. I guess because it's a complicated topic that even the best observers don't have a complete grip on, but still.
Pluto was a planet and I'll never forget
uh, what? The collection plate in every church I've been to was for the church. There are separate funds for the unfortunate (look up Catholic Charities/ Society of St. Vincent de Paul.
Except, you know, for mine.
Like, I almost never call Scat, replace/displace; never call Tibbly (anything really) "iRevert." Etc. Don't you have the "u" and "r" flipped in your gamer-tag, Burtle?
What? The oil market alone absolutely crushes the illegal drug trade in size. Like, so badly it's not even funny.
QEDMF xbl: PantsB G+
But not, perhaps in profitability (As in dollars profit relative to dollars spent)