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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Jean Grey has nothing on Liz Lemon, Cyclops moved on up.

    Bullshit Famke Jansen would probably be down for anal/blood play/everything, where as liz would get the vapors reading fifty shades of suck.

    Famke Janssen's only kink is sex-crushing dudes to death with her thighs.

    Not the worst way to go.

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  • BagginsesBagginses __BANNED USERS regular
    Astaereth wrote: »
    Bagginses wrote: »
    So I just watched The Birds just now. Really good plot, even with the useless romance taking up 60% of it. It probably could have benefited from the original scripted ending, although it's pretty obvious that they didn't have the effects to pull it off, which was true of most of the film and the main drawback (and disbelief breaker). This is one film that could benefit from a line-by-line remake/invasive remastering. Put in some more convincing attack effects instead of moving around little cutout images and add some more serious injuries, and you've got a fantastic/perfect film.

    I don't know if it would have the same weight, however. The Birds really was a summation of everything Hitchcock had done that came before it and then got followed by a lot of unsatisfactory films that meandered and waffled about.

    Well, he only made 5 more movies after The Birds. And it's true, most of them were pretty bad (although I haven't seen Marnie). He did make Frenzy during that time, however, which is a really good movie, probably second-tier Hitchcock. Essentially it was his "The Departed"--an energetic return to the genre he was known for.
    Astaereth wrote: »
    Bagginses wrote: »
    So I just watched The Birds just now. Really good plot, even with the useless romance taking up 60% of it. It probably could have benefited from the original scripted ending, although it's pretty obvious that they didn't have the effects to pull it off, which was true of most of the film and the main drawback (and disbelief breaker). This is one film that could benefit from a line-by-line remake/invasive remastering. Put in some more convincing attack effects instead of moving around little cutout images and add some more serious injuries, and you've got a fantastic/perfect film.

    I don't know if it would have the same weight, however. The Birds really was a summation of everything Hitchcock had done that came before it and then got followed by a lot of unsatisfactory films that meandered and waffled about.

    Well, he only made 5 more movies after The Birds. And it's true, most of them were pretty bad (although I haven't seen Marnie). He did make Frenzy during that time, however, which is a really good movie, probably second-tier Hitchcock. Essentially it was his "The Departed"--an energetic return to the genre he was known for.

    Marnie's weird.

    It's Tippy Hedrin and Sean Connery, and Connery is at his charmingest peak, but the movie really doesn't know what it's trying to do. It's thriller, then it's a romantic comedy, then it's a heist film, then it's a melodrama . . . all leading to a climax that wants to desperately be more profound than it really is.

    Well, it's clear what Marnie wants to be which is the ultimate deconstruction of Hitchcock's usage of ice queen blondes; it's just a mess, had already been done in every other movie he made, and it bears the stench of Hitchcock buying into auteur theory and making films in that vein.

    Then it was followed by that one with Paul Newman and Julie Andrews which was bad considering things like The Quiller Memorandum coming out, and because, for every good scene, it has something totally bizarre like a rear-projected scene of them dining at a cafe. I want to ask him why he did that more than anything else.

    He may have tried for auteur theory because he had spent such a long time under the popular opinion that he made vulgar-type films. To quote Wikipedia on Vertigo:
    Variety said the film showed Hitchcock's "mastery", but was too long and slow for "what is basically only a psychological murder mystery".... In the 1950s, the French Cahiers du cinéma critics began re-evaluating Hitchcock as a serious artist rather than just a populist showman.

    Basically, he'd been dealing with the same crap as the NYTimes Avengers review (which, to remind, was basically "sure, it has good acting, dialogue, and plot, but it's still an explosion movie.").

    Battleship is brilliant because because it's a basic writing prompt that actually got made. The next movie will probably be "The Words X, Y, and Z in an Essay."

    Tonight's movie was You Can't Take It With You, which is basically the archetype for every snooty-family-meets-cloudcookulanders-and-learns-what's-really-important story, and so has all the associated flaws.

  • AtomikaAtomika Hypercritical Queen Bitch of Cinema Registered User regular
    Bagginses wrote: »
    Tonight's movie was You Can't Take It With You, which is basically the archetype for every snooty-family-meets-cloudcookulanders-and-learns-what's-really-important story, and so has all the associated flaws.

    I hated it when I saw the play, so I can't imagine a filmed version is any better.

    I loathe films with that snob-vs-slobs BS. They so very rarely ever point out the realities of those conflicts. The one and only time I ever had someone seriously ask me, "Hey! You think you're better than me?", I really felt that I was. She was scumbag who kidnapped an old crippled man to steal his Social Security check and forced him to live in a van with herself and three dogs.

  • GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    Bagginses wrote: »
    So I just watched The Birds just now. Really good plot, even with the useless romance taking up 60% of it. It probably could have benefited from the original scripted ending, although it's pretty obvious that they didn't have the effects to pull it off, which was true of most of the film and the main drawback (and disbelief breaker). This is one film that could benefit from a line-by-line remake/invasive remastering. Put in some more convincing attack effects instead of moving around little cutout images and add some more serious injuries, and you've got a fantastic/perfect film.

    The theatrical trailer, however, was amazing:

    This is the movie where Hitchcock completely screwed over that poor actress' career with his stalker tendencies, ya?

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  • AtomikaAtomika Hypercritical Queen Bitch of Cinema Registered User regular
    Godfather wrote: »
    Bagginses wrote: »
    So I just watched The Birds just now. Really good plot, even with the useless romance taking up 60% of it. It probably could have benefited from the original scripted ending, although it's pretty obvious that they didn't have the effects to pull it off, which was true of most of the film and the main drawback (and disbelief breaker). This is one film that could benefit from a line-by-line remake/invasive remastering. Put in some more convincing attack effects instead of moving around little cutout images and add some more serious injuries, and you've got a fantastic/perfect film.

    The theatrical trailer, however, was amazing:

    This is the movie where Hitchcock completely screwed over that poor actress' career with his stalker tendencies, ya?

    Don't worry. I bet her kids gave her some money. I hear they're doing alright. ;-)

  • BagginsesBagginses __BANNED USERS regular
    Bagginses wrote: »
    Tonight's movie was You Can't Take It With You, which is basically the archetype for every snooty-family-meets-cloudcookulanders-and-learns-what's-really-important story, and so has all the associated flaws.

    I hated it when I saw the play, so I can't imagine a filmed version is any better.

    I loathe films with that snob-vs-slobs BS. They so very rarely ever point out the realities of those conflicts. The one and only time I ever had someone seriously ask me, "Hey! You think you're better than me?", I really felt that I was. She was scumbag who kidnapped an old crippled man to steal his Social Security check and forced him to live in a van with herself and three dogs.

    To be fair, the rich guy was basically the era bain capital, specializing in the demonstration of how profit =/= morality. On the other, the family didn't get in any trouble with the neighbors for almost burning down the neighborhood and making them homeless by selling the house on a whim.

  • Mad King GeorgeMad King George Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    Bagginses wrote: »
    Astaereth wrote: »
    Bagginses wrote: »
    So I just watched The Birds just now. Really good plot, even with the useless romance taking up 60% of it. It probably could have benefited from the original scripted ending, although it's pretty obvious that they didn't have the effects to pull it off, which was true of most of the film and the main drawback (and disbelief breaker). This is one film that could benefit from a line-by-line remake/invasive remastering. Put in some more convincing attack effects instead of moving around little cutout images and add some more serious injuries, and you've got a fantastic/perfect film.

    I don't know if it would have the same weight, however. The Birds really was a summation of everything Hitchcock had done that came before it and then got followed by a lot of unsatisfactory films that meandered and waffled about.

    Well, he only made 5 more movies after The Birds. And it's true, most of them were pretty bad (although I haven't seen Marnie). He did make Frenzy during that time, however, which is a really good movie, probably second-tier Hitchcock. Essentially it was his "The Departed"--an energetic return to the genre he was known for.
    Astaereth wrote: »
    Bagginses wrote: »
    So I just watched The Birds just now. Really good plot, even with the useless romance taking up 60% of it. It probably could have benefited from the original scripted ending, although it's pretty obvious that they didn't have the effects to pull it off, which was true of most of the film and the main drawback (and disbelief breaker). This is one film that could benefit from a line-by-line remake/invasive remastering. Put in some more convincing attack effects instead of moving around little cutout images and add some more serious injuries, and you've got a fantastic/perfect film.

    I don't know if it would have the same weight, however. The Birds really was a summation of everything Hitchcock had done that came before it and then got followed by a lot of unsatisfactory films that meandered and waffled about.

    Well, he only made 5 more movies after The Birds. And it's true, most of them were pretty bad (although I haven't seen Marnie). He did make Frenzy during that time, however, which is a really good movie, probably second-tier Hitchcock. Essentially it was his "The Departed"--an energetic return to the genre he was known for.

    Marnie's weird.

    It's Tippy Hedrin and Sean Connery, and Connery is at his charmingest peak, but the movie really doesn't know what it's trying to do. It's thriller, then it's a romantic comedy, then it's a heist film, then it's a melodrama . . . all leading to a climax that wants to desperately be more profound than it really is.

    Well, it's clear what Marnie wants to be which is the ultimate deconstruction of Hitchcock's usage of ice queen blondes; it's just a mess, had already been done in every other movie he made, and it bears the stench of Hitchcock buying into auteur theory and making films in that vein.

    Then it was followed by that one with Paul Newman and Julie Andrews which was bad considering things like The Quiller Memorandum coming out, and because, for every good scene, it has something totally bizarre like a rear-projected scene of them dining at a cafe. I want to ask him why he did that more than anything else.

    He may have tried for auteur theory because he had spent such a long time under the popular opinion that he made vulgar-type films. To quote Wikipedia on Vertigo:
    Variety said the film showed Hitchcock's "mastery", but was too long and slow for "what is basically only a psychological murder mystery".... In the 1950s, the French Cahiers du cinéma critics began re-evaluating Hitchcock as a serious artist rather than just a populist showman.

    Basically, he'd been dealing with the same crap as the NYTimes Avengers review (which, to remind, was basically "sure, it has good acting, dialogue, and plot, but it's still an explosion movie.").

    Battleship is brilliant because because it's a basic writing prompt that actually got made. The next movie will probably be "The Words X, Y, and Z in an Essay."

    Tonight's movie was You Can't Take It With You, which is basically the archetype for every snooty-family-meets-cloudcookulanders-and-learns-what's-really-important story, and so has all the associated flaws.

    That doesn't make those movies of Hitch's better.

    Mad King George on
  • NathanielFletcherNathanielFletcher Registered User
    Finally got time to watch Avengers, it felt so good to see all my favorite super hero's on screen together! :) How did you guys like the movie?

  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    Finally got time to watch Avengers, it felt so good to see all my favorite super hero's on screen together! :) How did you guys like the movie?

    I mean, it was no Steel, but it was pretty good.

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  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    anyone else seen prometheus yet? i wanna discuss shit.

  • Delta AssaultDelta Assault Registered User regular
    It comes out June 8th. So no.

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  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    It comes out June 8th. So no.

    maybe for you colonials, it came out today in the uk and i saw it at midnight though my post got bottom of page'd

  • Delta AssaultDelta Assault Registered User regular
    *shrug*

    I just watched Men in Black 3. Maybe we could discuss that?

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  • GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    Godfather wrote: »
    Bagginses wrote: »
    So I just watched The Birds just now. Really good plot, even with the useless romance taking up 60% of it. It probably could have benefited from the original scripted ending, although it's pretty obvious that they didn't have the effects to pull it off, which was true of most of the film and the main drawback (and disbelief breaker). This is one film that could benefit from a line-by-line remake/invasive remastering. Put in some more convincing attack effects instead of moving around little cutout images and add some more serious injuries, and you've got a fantastic/perfect film.

    The theatrical trailer, however, was amazing:

    This is the movie where Hitchcock completely screwed over that poor actress' career with his stalker tendencies, ya?

    Don't worry. I bet her kids gave her some money. I hear they're doing alright. ;-)

    I don't get this comment! Is it sarcasm? I am bad at detecting these things!

    EDIT: For those not in-the-know, Hitchcock basically snuffed out the main actress' career after The Birds because she refused his advances. He got so pissed he basically sat on her contract until she was no longer relevant in movies anymore, basically killing her film career!

    Godfather on
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  • AtomikaAtomika Hypercritical Queen Bitch of Cinema Registered User regular
    Godfather wrote: »
    I don't get this comment! Is it sarcasm? I am bad at detecting these things!

    Her son-in-law is Antonio Banderas.

  • GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    Ooooooooooooooooooooh

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  • Mad King GeorgeMad King George Registered User regular
    Godfather wrote: »
    Godfather wrote: »
    Bagginses wrote: »
    So I just watched The Birds just now. Really good plot, even with the useless romance taking up 60% of it. It probably could have benefited from the original scripted ending, although it's pretty obvious that they didn't have the effects to pull it off, which was true of most of the film and the main drawback (and disbelief breaker). This is one film that could benefit from a line-by-line remake/invasive remastering. Put in some more convincing attack effects instead of moving around little cutout images and add some more serious injuries, and you've got a fantastic/perfect film.

    The theatrical trailer, however, was amazing:

    This is the movie where Hitchcock completely screwed over that poor actress' career with his stalker tendencies, ya?

    Don't worry. I bet her kids gave her some money. I hear they're doing alright. ;-)

    I don't get this comment! Is it sarcasm? I am bad at detecting these things!

    EDIT: For those not in-the-know, Hitchcock basically snuffed out the main actress' career after The Birds because she refused his advances. He got so pissed he basically sat on her contract until she was no longer relevant in movies anymore, basically killing her film career!

    He did use her again in Marnie.

  • Red or AliveRed or Alive Registered User regular
    I don't have time to post a full review, but Prometheus - viewed either as an Alien prequel or a standalone sci-fi film - was a crushing disappointment. I drafted 4 other work buddies and we were all left wholly underwhelmed. I'll try and elaborate when I have the time.

    Carpe Diem. By the CROTCH.
  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Just reading the spoilers from the last page I'm confident skipping prometheus is the right decision.

  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    Micheal Fassbender is great though.

  • Red or AliveRed or Alive Registered User regular
    Fassbender is excellent. No question there.

    Carpe Diem. By the CROTCH.
  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    this leads me on to another thing i've noticed.. anyone know why, this year, the uk seems to be getting stuff earlier than the us? i mean its usually either the other way around or on the same day?

    i noticed it with john carter, avengers, battleship and now prometheus and i'm sure there were others too. feels like some sort of test bed marketing thing.

    Deaderinred on
  • TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    As far as I can tell, it's because those sorts of films tend to do well in the international market, and it gives them a big opening gross that they can use for marketing in North America.

  • Red or AliveRed or Alive Registered User regular
    Right-o: some unfocused rambling about Sir Ridley Scott's not-Alien prequel, Prometheus:

    First, let me preface this with a quote from a review I scanned after seeing the film: "Prometheus suffers from a near-terminal inability to decide what story it wants to tell." Well, there's your problem.

    Spoilers follow:
    Spoiler:




    Carpe Diem. By the CROTCH.
  • Red or AliveRed or Alive Registered User regular
    Having said all that, there are worse ways to spend a couple of hours than watching Charlize Theron swan about in skin-tight clothing.

    And claiming that intelligent life has its origins in Scotland, well, I have no issue with that. Makes perfect sense to this Glaswegian.

    Carpe Diem. By the CROTCH.
  • HeisenbergHeisenberg Registered User regular
    I want to live in Glasgow. The week I spent there in 09 going up to the highlands was pretty much the best week of my life.

  • EddEdd Registered User regular
    Houn wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Jean Grey has nothing on Liz Lemon, Cyclops moved on up.

    Bullshit Famke Jansen would probably be down for anal/blood play/everything, where as liz would get the vapors reading fifty shades of suck.

    Famke Janssen's only kink is sex-crushing dudes to death with her thighs.

    :^:

    I don't care what anyone says, Goldeneye was the best Bond film.

    I'm generally against tampering with complete films, but I would love for David Arnold to get a crack at re-scoring that film. That limp 90s minimalist techno nonsense is about the only aspect of it that hasn't aged well.

  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    Right-o: some unfocused rambling about Sir Ridley Scott's not-Alien prequel, Prometheus:

    First, let me preface this with a quote from a review I scanned after seeing the film: "Prometheus suffers from a near-terminal inability to decide what story it wants to tell." Well, there's your problem.

    Spoilers follow:
    Spoiler:




    AHHHH
    Spoiler:

    Deaderinred on
  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Ouch sounds like the only good part about Prometheus will be hearing the red letter media review about it.

  • gjaustingjaustin Registered User regular
    I'm really looking forward to Prometheus. If it's half as good as I want it to be, I'll be pleased. I already have my midnight (mini) Imax tickets purchased and ready to go.

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  • MalReynoldsMalReynolds The Hunter S Thompson of incredibly mild medicines Registered User regular
    Edd wrote: »
    Houn wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Jean Grey has nothing on Liz Lemon, Cyclops moved on up.

    Bullshit Famke Jansen would probably be down for anal/blood play/everything, where as liz would get the vapors reading fifty shades of suck.

    Famke Janssen's only kink is sex-crushing dudes to death with her thighs.

    :^:

    I don't care what anyone says, Goldeneye was the best Bond film.

    I'm generally against tampering with complete films, but I would love for David Arnold to get a crack at re-scoring that film. That limp 90s minimalist techno nonsense is about the only aspect of it that hasn't aged well.

    It completely kills the film.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    I liked the soundtrack in Golden Eye.

  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    I liked the soundtrack in Golden Eye.

    Agreed. 90s Techno is the hereditary music of my people, though.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Houn wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    I liked the soundtrack in Golden Eye.

    Agreed. 90s Techno is the hereditary music of my people, though.

    It was a Serra score (he also did Fifth Element and Leon), and I liked how it worked with the film, a different soundtrack would ruin the flow of the movie. So no you heathen sons of bitches leave my jub jub song alone.

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Allforce wrote: »
    Well to be fair putting DUKE back in the movie sounds more like the studio fixing what the creators fucked up in the first place. As much as I don't care about either film, killing off the main guy that every fan of the cartoon grew up with sounds pretty ridiculous.

    It's true Duke is a main character in all G.I. Joe rosters, only he won't be missed too much in the sequel IMO. Besides, he already had a movie being the star. Now should be The Rock's turn if they're not going to recast Tatum with someone with genuine acting talent.
    But also Roadblock is apparently Snake Eye's ninja protege in this one so who knows what "respecting the property" really even means anymore.

    Eh. Adaptions do small changes like that all the time and make it work, for example Bruce Wayne being trained by
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    in Batman Begins. All that matters is the execution.
    Preacher wrote: »
    Allforce wrote: »
    Well to be fair putting DUKE back in the movie sounds more like the studio fixing what the creators fucked up in the first place. As much as I don't care about either film, killing off the main guy that every fan of the cartoon grew up with sounds pretty ridiculous.

    But also Roadblock is apparently Snake Eye's ninja protege in this one so who knows what "respecting the property" really even means anymore.

    Look when your duke sucks you kill him off. Its like offing Scott Summers because people got tired of his whiny ass.

    1) Cyclops was poorly used in the X-men movies. He's a good character when written correctly. Unfortunately it was the Wolverine show. 2) He only got killed off because Fox was pissed Marsden was shooting Superman Returns. It had nothing to do with the character.



  • TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    I liked the soundtrack in Golden Eye.

    Agreed. Yes, it dates the film a bit, but it also works really well.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    I liked the soundtrack in Golden Eye.

    Agreed. Yes, it dates the film a bit, but it also works really well.

    Plus as I sarcastically pointed out, the only person who goes back and changes soundtracks on movies is George Lucas, and it worked out awfully for the films.

  • ZiggymonZiggymon Registered User regular
    Right-o: some unfocused rambling about Sir Ridley Scott's not-Alien prequel, Prometheus:

    First, let me preface this with a quote from a review I scanned after seeing the film: "Prometheus suffers from a near-terminal inability to decide what story it wants to tell." Well, there's your problem.

    Spoilers follow:
    Spoiler:




    AHHHH
    Spoiler:

    I really enjoyed the film as a standalone but felt that
    Spoiler:

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  • SarcasmoBlasterSarcasmoBlaster Registered User regular
    I am so sad to hear that Prometheus is disappointing. All I have left to hope for now this summer is that TDKR delivers.

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    I am so sad to hear that Prometheus is disappointing. All I have left to hope for now this summer is that TDKR delivers.

    It might improve with the director's cut.

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