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Yeah, but then Gordon Brown breaks through the prison wall with his bare fists and saves us all.
You know, that whole "Either you're with us, or you're with the terrorists" bit.
Why wouldn't we? Bush's administration is kind of known for this kind of shit. I just read the executive order in its entirety and it does seem fishy as hell.
It SAYS they freeze funding or property to those who support terrorists through whatever means, but lowering the support for the war effort could easily be construed as endangering our troops and backing up terrorist regimes morale.
At least with these wackos in office.
Wow, the site in the OP has some crazy ass articles.
If faith is just a silent tribute, mine is just a desperate act.
Yes, I'm very concerned that 63% of the population will have their assetts frozen.
Don't need the masses to have their assets frozen.
All they need to find out is who organized it and nail the ringleader (so to speak). Hell, they could go after government funded institutions like universities with this, and easily.
If nobody is willing to organize it, it won't happen.
But you know he's going to whack a "Freedom Tax" on it.
ZING!
Well yeah. Those Scottish orphans aren't going to feed themselves. Gruel costs money.
I'm not much on big ol' conspiracy theories, I'm also not huge on political rhetoric and bullshit. I've read this thing, though, and I've judged this administration based solely on their previous track record... as such I've come to my conclusion on this. It would NOT surprise me to see the worst-case scenario right out of Orwell's doesn't-need-to-be-named-at-this-point classic from these guys.
Nothing these people have done yet has been plausible.
Any power a government is given it will eventually use.
If faith is just a silent tribute, mine is just a desperate act.
Their track record? They haven't moved to shut down the federal funding of universities with anti-war organizations and academics. They wouldn't even need this executive order to do that.
What is this track record that suggests to you the imminent seizure of the property of any prominent anti-war leaders at all? Has the IRS been harrassing them? Have security services done more than surveil protest groups?
Please.
So why the EO? Friendly reminder?
I'm not worried.
They just denied Congress the ability to look at materials related to its implementation.
I rather enjoy when people form protests; it's nice to see people exercising their Constitutional rights.
Pesky hippies.
But suppose the DOHS had intercepted a slew of incredibly violent terrorist attacks in the last few weeks that were given zero publicity.
Would calling for what amounts to financial martial law be justified if it became obvious that the terror attacks were being orchestrated to coincide with public demonstrations?
15. 15 month tours.
Quid knows what I'm talking about.
That said, this is powerfully fucked up stuff. Was this one of those things that people you elected were supposed to vote against, or is this pretty much just Bush writing down a memo that says "I can take whatever I like if I want to" and then calling that law?
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
Pretty much Bush writing a memo.
If they try to use it against simple protestors, it won't hold up in court. Our court system isn't totally fucktarded, yet.
- "Proving once again the deadliest animal of all ... is the Zoo Keeper" - Philip J Fry
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Wouldn't the alternative be real martial law? Right now they're just threatening everyone's wallets.
That would be a considerable step down in terms of how they moderate their response to terrorist activity.
Are they worried about homegrown terrorists rioting in the streets?
you would think, but very few people remember that toward the beginning of this war, Bush had a group of peaceful protestors arrested for protesting this war. There has never been any repercussion for that action. His justification was that they were comitting treason by going against his orders and decisions. Since you know, he is the US dictator.
I'd Google "Federalist Society" if I were you.
I see outlawing behaviour that supports actions against the USA overseas. As in, funding insurgents in Iraq. Am I missing something?
The elasticity of the term 'supporting actions against the US overseas.' Although it would take a hell of a lot of work to stretch that out to protestors. I mean, the definition of treason more or less coincides with this. Who cares, though. Damn hippies never really do anything. They just block traffic for a few hours and stink up the place.
That a significant proportion of judges are conservative does not imply that they are also fucktarded. I'm not so kneejerk liberal to suggest that believing in strict constructionism makes one inherently corrupt.
Like much of the abuses of this administration, it isn't so much what they want to do that is bad, it's that they want to do it without any checks on their power or oversight over their decisions.