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Presidential Election 2012: I'm too old for this Mitt.

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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    I seriously wonder what the Republican party is going to do when Romney loses

    Seems like the atmosphere in the party is too toxic to allow any moderate conservatism

    I'd hope for a split which leaves moderates and people able to compromise on one side, and the crazies in the looney bin.

    Then hopefully the crazies die out because they're too stupid for politics.

    Or.. they get a really charismatic leader and we're fucked

    Charisma is really difficult to maintain when you have to pander to a base like the worst of the GOP, especially since they seem to active despise personality

    part of the problem with the freep crowd is just how goddamn picky they are and how quickly they'll turn on you

    you have to meet their checklist of Approved Things To Be AND never vote on anything that isn't lockstep with murdering poors

    all i'm waiting for is for palin to vanish, or lose an election, because it'll be a goddamn nuclear holocaust for them

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Although I will say, even in the context of general elections, the amount of 'we're not even going to attempt accuracy, and instead just straight up lie about shit' that's been going on this cycle may even surpass the 04 swiftboat debacle

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    Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    Although I will say, even in the context of general elections, the amount of 'we're not even going to attempt accuracy, and instead just straight up lie about shit' that's been going on this cycle may even surpass the 04 swiftboat debacle

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    ButlerButler 89 episodes or bust Registered User regular
    Wait I thought the GOP hated public healthcare of any kind

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    dbrock270dbrock270 Registered User regular
    Butler wrote: »
    Wait I thought the GOP hated public healthcare of any kind

    Well Ryan's plan pretty much ends Medicare as we know it.

    The GOP is just lying.

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Butler wrote: »
    Wait I thought the GOP hated public healthcare of any kind

    Well apparently they do, since they're advocating getting rid of it in lieu of giving people coupons to shop for private insurance, instead

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Which actually might not be the worst thing to say to drum up support for it, since old people fucking love coupons

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    dbrock270dbrock270 Registered User regular
    coupons that don't adjust for inflation and only provide for some services.

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    ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    dbrock270 wrote: »
    coupons that don't adjust for inflation and only provide for some services.

    gotta read that fine print

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    dbrock270 wrote: »
    coupons that don't adjust for inflation and only provide for some services.

    And they're not even valid for price-matching at walmart!

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    DID I HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT COUPONS?

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    Mr FuzzbuttMr Fuzzbutt Registered User regular
    poop on coupons

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    ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    Cue Pawns.

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    We have special e-mail and text-only coupons at the grocery store I work at

    the look on the face of the old folks as they realize they need to figure out technology to get their precious savings is

    sublime

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    Grocery coupons can be legitimately awesome though, so long as you aren't buying things you wouldn't normally because of them.

    I'm just too lazy to use them

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    autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    Druhim wrote: »
    DID I HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT COUPONS?
    I thought you were on a paleolothic diet

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    Druhim wrote: »
    DID I HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT COUPONS?
    I thought you were on a paleolothic diet

    It's true, dru wants to live just as the cavemen did because he believes it to be the healthiest lifestyle

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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    i get coupons for my comic book store (for now, once my employee discount kicks in i stop getting them) and i always end up dropping more than i expected using them

    i hate coupons

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    ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    grocery coupons are pretty good, especially if you combine them with "member" discount cards. You can actually get reasonable prices.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    TheStig wrote: »
    Druhim wrote: »
    DID I HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT COUPONS?
    I thought you were on a paleolothic diet

    It's true, dru wants to live just as the cavemen did because he believes it to be the healthiest lifestyle

    You guys have no idea. Back then we all ate organic, single origin heirloom produce that was certified sustainable.

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    chidona wrote: »
    sarukun wrote: »
    KetBra wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    Quoth wrote: »
    As a resident of a state whose Republican governor rejected high speed rail stimulus funds... Wha?

    High-speed rails are money pits. I think there's like one high-speed rail on earth that doesn't operate at a loss. Maybe its worth it to you but it's not completely senseless to reject funding that has to be allocated towards something you know will become a burden in the future.

    Well public roads also run at a loss.

    The point's more to facilitate fast travel for relatively cheap, not make money.

    That doesn't mean paying for it to be built and keeping it running isn't a huge deal. If the dang thing can't pay it's bills, those trains aren't going anywhere.

    The main benefit of a HS rail service isn't in the actual service itself; whether or not the rail service turns a profit or not is almost irrelevant. What's important is the abundant positive externalities related to the existence of a high speed service - it facilitates better transport for goods and services, allows firms to access a broader pool of labour (and vice versa), has potentially beneficial effects on house prices and affordability, and facilitates economies of scale by expanding the size of a market (an example - if a hairdresser you like is 2 hours each way, you're not likely to go there, but if a HS service cuts than in half or a third, it'll look more attractive).

    Of course, two caveats; it's possible that the service may operate at an accounting loss, but still actually be in profit in terms of wider economic impact. In these cases there's a role for the state to subsidize a loss making service up until the point where it's loss is equal to the positive externality. But of course, socialism.

    Second, it doesn't always work - I believe America already has examples of ill-conceived HS services.

    But these shouldn't deter one from the pursuit of such services wholesale, since improved transport infrastructure is a vital part of the continued wealth and prosperity of a nation.

    Certainly not! It's all totally situational. My gut tells me California might actually be a really good candidate for high speed rail! But the state is already broke; adding an expenditure of that nature and not having it pay off would be pretty disasterous.

    Trust me, I lived for years in two places with the best public transportation in the world, the power these amenities gives the population at large and the resulting economic impact was not lost on me in the slightest ('specially since I didn't have a car): I still ain't really think California can afford to build a monorail right now.

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    ButlerButler 89 episodes or bust Registered User regular
    I'm on the monolithic diet. I no longer crave fatty foods because I'm full of stars.

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    ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    something something druhim is old

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    tuggatugga Makin' movies Makin' songsRegistered User regular
    "Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan" and "My ultimate Ayn Rand porn" are anagrams.

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    SticksSticks I'd rather be in bed.Registered User regular
    Hey dru, were things always this bad in politics?

    Tell us how things were when Hoover was running for office.

    Taft?

    Polk?

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    tuggatugga Makin' movies Makin' songsRegistered User regular
    How were things before television

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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    i think we need to go back to 1950s budgets for campaigns

    no adjusting for inflation either

    everyone gets 400 dollars to run a campaign with

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    tugga wrote: »
    How were things before television

    Probably super boring

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    tugga wrote: »
    How were things before television

    Probably super boring

    I imagine cardboard boxes, empty soup cans, and other forms of "garbage" were considered great vehicles imagination-based play.

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    I dunno, there were a lot of cool radio shows back then

    And you could always read too, I guess, if that was your thing

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    sarukun wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »
    tugga wrote: »
    How were things before television

    Probably super boring

    I imagine cardboard boxes, empty soup cans, and other forms of "garbage" were considered great vehicles imagination-based play.
    I dunno, there were a lot of cool radio shows back then

    And you could always read too, I guess, if that was your thing

    These are both still true!

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    ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    sarukun wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »
    tugga wrote: »
    How were things before television

    Probably super boring

    I imagine cardboard boxes, empty soup cans, and other forms of "garbage" were considered great vehicles imagination-based play.
    I dunno, there were a lot of cool radio shows back then

    And you could always read too, I guess, if that was your thing

    These are both still true!

    yeah but....the internet...ya know?

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    I was never big into cardboard.

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    the internet is just a phase tox

    we'll all get over it here soon

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    sarukun wrote: »
    I was never big into cardboard.

    I was always big into pillow forts

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    pillow forts were the best

    my sister was always better at building them than me, and wouldn't let me in

    damn her!

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    dbrock270 wrote: »
    Butler wrote: »
    Wait I thought the GOP hated public healthcare of any kind

    Well Ryan's plan pretty much ends Medicare as we know it.

    The GOP is just lying.

    Obama's plans end medicare too.

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    dbrock270dbrock270 Registered User regular
    Butters wrote: »
    dbrock270 wrote: »
    Butler wrote: »
    Wait I thought the GOP hated public healthcare of any kind

    Well Ryan's plan pretty much ends Medicare as we know it.

    The GOP is just lying.

    Obama's plans end medicare too.

    How?

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    Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    I cannot fathom Romney winning.

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    Dongs GaloreDongs Galore Registered User regular
    I cannot fathom Romney winning.

    He's a rich white guy with great hair

    I can't fathom the fact that he hasn't already been elected

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