I'm pretty sure unit fillers are viable now for table top.
I was thinking about converting four or five models and put them a horde formation with a terrain(or other) filler. If you guys saw a diorama with so little units in person, what would you think? I don't want to paint thirty orc models and would have much more motivation trying to make scenery glittered with units to count as formations.
thanks for any input
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edited August 2012
I've always been cool with unit fillers mainly because the amount of models you need for a Fantasy army borders on the insane.
Just remember the general rule of needing to have enough models in the back ranks that if the filler block is removed, you have enough models to put back in its place.
But this is really a question for the guys you usually play, since they're the ones who might not want to play you using fillers.
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edited August 2012
It seems I'm up for a game of fantasy. My brother wants a 1000pt game. My list is pretty basic:
Vampire - level 2 lore of vamps, enchanted shield, heavy armour
Necromancer - level 1 lore of vamps
30 skeletons, full command
10 ghouls, ghast
20 grave guard, full command, banner of the barrows, great weapons
Varghulf
My main concern is I only have 20 zombies to raise, so I won't be able to raise much of a meat shield.
Basic strategy of bunker the necromancer with the skeletons, vampire with the grave guard, shove them down his throat kept alive with invocation, varghulf and ghouls go for small units or flanks
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I have the actual board game, cant get anyone to play it EVER.
You're UK right? There's a statistically tiny chance you are within a reasonable distance of me. I will travel.
Donating my WHQ set to a short lived gaming group at my Mum's school was one of the stupidest things I've done. All I've got left now are the minis.
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I have the board game as well and most of it still intact (albeit poorly painted). Unfortunately, I trashed a number of minis (the heroes & minotaurs most notably) and almost all the books in the most regrettable warhams purge ever.
Trying to get all the missing pieces from ebay has been stressful.
I love Warhammer Quest. Still have two boxes, even.
Guess I'll be sticking to the tabletop game until GW decides to support more platforms.
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There is a Warhammer Quest thing for Vassal that I found. It seems pretty rad. Also HeroQuest if you're into that and if you aren't then you're a terrible person.
This also makes me wonder if WHQ might be the next boxed game release?
It's probably a heaping pile of Nostalgia distorting my memory of how good it was. I was 13 at the time, had never really come across D&D, and for me and my warhammering mates it was the best thing ever.
I imagine stuff like Descent must have improved on the formula and make it look a bit dated by now.
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The beauty of HeroQuest and WHQ was in their simplicity. They make excellent gateway drugs for those less inclined to such nerdy endeavors.
I have WHQ but lost the books over time and are they ever so hard to replace
I bought a copy of heroquest because I lost the furniture the funny thing is it's in far better con than mine
I also bought Battlemasters off the same person they had everything but the Tower. Somehow over time it was all I had left of mine
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Mr_Rose83 Blue Ridge Protects the HolyRegistered Userregular
edited August 2012
I still have a complete WHQ box and a couple of the small hero supplements mostly unpainted, though I did dismount a bunch of the giant rats and put them on 20mm bases for use on the tabletop.
I could totally get behind a portable vidjagame version though. EDIT: Unless it was a shitty FP hack'n'slash whose only connection to the name was the use of the IP.
I would go nuts over a Warhammer Quest boardgame re-release. Imagine how awesome they could make the character models. And the monsters. And door frames.
Simple enough you could play it as a drinking game and still finish a dungeon. Deep enough that it was fun as hell to play over and over again. I'd say it's up there with BFG, Necromunda, and Mordheim as one of their more awesome games.
We played soooo much Warhammer Quest in college. I still have all the cards/boards/minis that came with the game, as well as a few of the expansion characters. Heck, I occasionally use the orcs that came with it (and 4th (I think) ed. warhammer) when I don't have enough newer ones to fill out my ranks.
I am always hopeful GW will return to it and release. No other co-op dungeon delve has really replaced it. The D&D board games were fun, but lack a built in ability to do the campaign and acquire many many dog followers and tatoos (and learn the deep secrets of smearing lard on yourself to make yourself harder to hit). The more I think about it, some of the stuff that happened in town and on the way to town is as memorable / fun as the actual dungeons themselves.
Absolutely. Classic GW. Random as shit, often brutal, usually funny, and made your occasional victories that much more exciting.
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Mr_Rose83 Blue Ridge Protects the HolyRegistered Userregular
The best thing was the chance, however utterly microscopic it was, that your first level one encounter using the random tables in the book could, via a series of cascading "roll on the next level's table" results, turn out to be D3 bloodthirsters. And I do mean the greater daemon.
-Loki-Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining.Registered Userregular
edited August 2012
GW are dumb for not revisiting warhammer quest. It has the potential to be a one off pack in game which is also the perfect gateway game into WHFB.
Do the usual - campaign, tiles, hero models, monster models.
Now also include a second book - make it all about using the tiles to make your own campaign, and include rules for everything in the WHFB range. Say quarter page entries for infantry, half page for minor bosses and monstrous infantry models, full pages for monstrous creatures, and rules for making heroes based on any of the armies. Old blood adventurer? Why not. Skaven thief? Sure. Vampire warrior? Go for it.
This way, people get sucked into the whole model line. Maybe they want to do a lustria campaign. They might buy a box of saurus, a box of skinks, a kroxigor, a salamander and a carnosaur. Then they might see the demo game on the table, and walk out with the army book as well...
Yes, but then people might just buy the boxed game instead of a whole army! Because people only buy into whole armies because there's no other option. Really.
That is a great idea. I've always felt that WFB works best when it has a strong RPG streak.
Oh man. Googling around Warhammer Quest I came across a number of 3D WHQ dungeon tile creation projects. I'm now impatient for the next 25-30 years of employment to get out of the way as I think I have my retirement hobby plan sorted!
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You know those new plastic characters GW have been pumping out? Are they or are they not detailed enough to make decent WHQ heroes/villains?
Because the sprues they use are also almost exactly the size of the old WHQ character packs. I am suddenly reconsidering whether this is a coincidence or not…
You know those new plastic characters GW have been pumping out? Are they or are they not detailed enough to make decent WHQ heroes/villains?
Because the sprues they use are also almost exactly the size of the old WHQ character packs. I am suddenly reconsidering whether this is a coincidence or not…
I was thinking the exact same thing reading the most recent WD last night. Those bundled with a unit box and sold as an expansion? Perfect seed for new players. And most are a step more exotic than your basic orcs/gobbos/skaven that would come with the boxed set. Lizardmen, Beastmen, undead, Savage Orcs.
I would go nuts over a Warhammer Quest boardgame re-release. Imagine how awesome they could make the character models. And the monsters. And door frames.
/froth
the $100 level on that Reaper kickstarter has enough minis on it's own to pull off Warhammer Quest or the like.
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I was thinking about converting four or five models and put them a horde formation with a terrain(or other) filler. If you guys saw a diorama with so little units in person, what would you think? I don't want to paint thirty orc models and would have much more motivation trying to make scenery glittered with units to count as formations.
thanks for any input
Just remember the general rule of needing to have enough models in the back ranks that if the filler block is removed, you have enough models to put back in its place.
But this is really a question for the guys you usually play, since they're the ones who might not want to play you using fillers.
Vampire - level 2 lore of vamps, enchanted shield, heavy armour
Necromancer - level 1 lore of vamps
30 skeletons, full command
10 ghouls, ghast
20 grave guard, full command, banner of the barrows, great weapons
Varghulf
My main concern is I only have 20 zombies to raise, so I won't be able to raise much of a meat shield.
Basic strategy of bunker the necromancer with the skeletons, vampire with the grave guard, shove them down his throat kept alive with invocation, varghulf and ghouls go for small units or flanks
3DS: 1650-8480-6786
Switch: SW-0653-8208-4705
You're UK right? There's a statistically tiny chance you are within a reasonable distance of me. I will travel.
Donating my WHQ set to a short lived gaming group at my Mum's school was one of the stupidest things I've done. All I've got left now are the minis.
PM'd
Trying to get all the missing pieces from ebay has been stressful.
3DS: 1650-8480-6786
Switch: SW-0653-8208-4705
Guess I'll be sticking to the tabletop game until GW decides to support more platforms.
This also makes me wonder if WHQ might be the next boxed game release?
3DS: 1650-8480-6786
Switch: SW-0653-8208-4705
I imagine stuff like Descent must have improved on the formula and make it look a bit dated by now.
3DS: 1650-8480-6786
Switch: SW-0653-8208-4705
I bought a copy of heroquest because I lost the furniture the funny thing is it's in far better con than mine
I also bought Battlemasters off the same person they had everything but the Tower. Somehow over time it was all I had left of mine
I could totally get behind a portable vidjagame version though. EDIT: Unless it was a shitty FP hack'n'slash whose only connection to the name was the use of the IP.
Nintendo Network ID: AzraelRose
DropBox invite link - get 500MB extra free.
So yeah I'm super excited.
3DS: 1650-8480-6786
Switch: SW-0653-8208-4705
/froth
I am always hopeful GW will return to it and release. No other co-op dungeon delve has really replaced it. The D&D board games were fun, but lack a built in ability to do the campaign and acquire many many dog followers and tatoos (and learn the deep secrets of smearing lard on yourself to make yourself harder to hit). The more I think about it, some of the stuff that happened in town and on the way to town is as memorable / fun as the actual dungeons themselves.
Nintendo Network ID: AzraelRose
DropBox invite link - get 500MB extra free.
Do the usual - campaign, tiles, hero models, monster models.
Now also include a second book - make it all about using the tiles to make your own campaign, and include rules for everything in the WHFB range. Say quarter page entries for infantry, half page for minor bosses and monstrous infantry models, full pages for monstrous creatures, and rules for making heroes based on any of the armies. Old blood adventurer? Why not. Skaven thief? Sure. Vampire warrior? Go for it.
This way, people get sucked into the whole model line. Maybe they want to do a lustria campaign. They might buy a box of saurus, a box of skinks, a kroxigor, a salamander and a carnosaur. Then they might see the demo game on the table, and walk out with the army book as well...
That is a great idea. I've always felt that WFB works best when it has a strong RPG streak.
Because the sprues they use are also almost exactly the size of the old WHQ character packs. I am suddenly reconsidering whether this is a coincidence or not…
Nintendo Network ID: AzraelRose
DropBox invite link - get 500MB extra free.
I was thinking the exact same thing reading the most recent WD last night. Those bundled with a unit box and sold as an expansion? Perfect seed for new players. And most are a step more exotic than your basic orcs/gobbos/skaven that would come with the boxed set. Lizardmen, Beastmen, undead, Savage Orcs.
I just added a bunch of 40k stuff to the 'for sale' section of my site.
Anvil of Doom
metal Dwarf Slayers (NIB)
OOP Savage Orcs
Small Wood Elf army
A few pictures:
I have a bunch of 40k as well.
Still to come - 1400 grams of OOP metal skaven... I just need to sort it!
the $100 level on that Reaper kickstarter has enough minis on it's own to pull off Warhammer Quest or the like.
OOP Slaves
OOP Plague Monks
OOP Plague Censer Bearers
We need more Tzeentch/Slaanesh gubbins, GW or third party ahhhh
Tzeentch? Take a blob of green stuff. Then maybe paint it blurpink.
3DS: 1650-8480-6786
Switch: SW-0653-8208-4705
Ed: Minimum