It was random finger pointing, with no evidence, hardly worth replying to seriously.
Though one of the issues with games such as this is that the more you post the more you look guilty, even when I'm not. People who are not saying anything remain (largely) accusation free.
If there's only one spy, then quarantining all 4 of us seems like a victory for the spies. It'd go from 4/10 odds to 3/6.
Would it be better to select members from outside our group (Body, Tayrun, Mi-go) then? I'm not sure if that is the best strategy as it adds a lot more unknown variables to the mix.
The only way to weed out a spy is we see a mission messed up, from there we can make guesses. Or they have a stupid nickname
Rotating out one seems like a good idea as if the mission goes wrong we have a fairly good idea who it was, not perfect I know as they could have not sabotaged an early one but this is the best we have.
If we use the same team, and the mission fails, then we'll have to bench all four members of the unit to shelf only potentially a single spy. That would not put the odds in our favor.
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I'm just not seeing a reliable way to weed them out within the allowed number of turns.
Here's my case: if I was the lone spy last mission, I would have sabotaged it. If I was a spy, I would not have invited multiple spies because I'd have no way of knowing if one wouldn't sabotage and blow over half our faction's cover the first turn. Way too risky of a move.
And if the other members of the squad were spies and decided to not sabotage the mission to screw with us so that they could later discredit four members of the unit, what then? We're not going to be able to fully weed out all of the spies within the unit with the number of turns we have remaining, you've said so yourself. What we can do is give ourselves the best odds possible for continued success. If one of the proposed four happens to be a spy and sabotages, only one, then 4 members of our 10 man unit are descredited, leaving 6 people with 3 spies. I don't know a bookie in New Vegas who would take those odds on a Resistance victory in this conflict.
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It might just be me, but it seems like the game gives very few turns for the Resistance to weed out the spies. Since every mission is carried out with a large group, it is very difficult to determine the sabotage and if one mission fails, all the mission members are suspected.
I'm just not seeing a reliable way to weed them out within the allowed number of turns.
Here's my case: if I was the lone spy last mission, I would have sabotaged it. If I was a spy, I would not have invited multiple spies because I'd have no way of knowing if one wouldn't sabotage and blow over half our faction's cover the first turn. Way too risky of a move.
It sorta depends. It is tight. Especially with the mission that requires 2 players...big question is whether they have a leader lined up that . It would be Tayrun. If it is.
Flimflam could possibly want to use this team if they are clean and then ruin their rep. Another alt.
I'm just not seeing a reliable way to weed them out within the allowed number of turns.
Here's my case: if I was the lone spy last mission, I would have sabotaged it. If I was a spy, I would not have invited multiple spies because I'd have no way of knowing if one wouldn't sabotage and blow over half our faction's cover the first turn. Way too risky of a move.
It sorta depends. It is tight. Especially with the mission that requires 2 players...big question is whether they have a leader lined up that . It would be Tayrun. If it is.
Flimflam could possibly want to use this team if they are clean and then ruin their rep. Another alt.
Something got chopped out of my post, mr. would be spy.
The post meant that it depends on what opportunities the spies choose to pursue. If they try to gain trust early on and have a leader lined up for the later missions , they might be more careful even if they were on an early mission.
That was a pretty defensive response there, Spygos.
Feeling threatened after being exposed as a spy, are you?
The name is Shadow, Spyrun.
She was imply we were working together also, you nincompoop. Like I would work with someone of your caliber.
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I suppose that the deadline really has passed now; a shame, as Kilnag- sorry, Corey's reasoning is pretty persuasive. Probably should have started over with a completely new band. Hmm. Being a squad leader is hard...
Need I call your attention to the fact that I've been on a mission which passed and hence I'm obviously not a spy, Spygos, duuuuuhhhhhh.
Rookie, are you familiar with how spies gain the trust of the Resistance? A common spy tactic is to gain our trust and when assigned to a crucial future mission, sabotage it.
Need I call your attention to the fact that I've been on a mission which passed and hence I'm obviously not a spy, Spygos, duuuuuhhhhhh.
Rookie, are you familiar with how spies gain the trust of the Resistance? A common spy tactic is to gain our trust and when assigned to a crucial future mission, sabotage it.
Nah no spy would ever pass a mission like that, that's crazy, that's just handing points to the opponents!
Clearly you're trying to confuse us loyal Resistance member, Spymi-go!
As far as I'm concerned, I didn't miss the deadline, although I've had second thoughts since then about my choice. But @Capfalcon hasn't turned up again to sort out the mission voting, so if people are happy with me changing the squad members I can do so...
If so, my choices would change to:
Myself, Cerberus, blahmcblah, and Daemonis.
If that's not viable due to the deadline, no worries!
(I hope that fellow loyal resistance members will note that I am simply following our names round the current order in which we were listed, missing out any who a have already gone on a mission - any seemingly random selection would seem to me to be a more suspicious method of choosing)
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If that is the new selection, I vote "no".
There are 4 spies. The first mission, assuming that there is no spies, consisted of 3 members. And now, you're proposing to bring 4 different members. At this point, it is basically guaranteed that there is a spy among the 4. And that spy, I don't think will miss the oppurtunity to sabotage.
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Though one of the issues with games such as this is that the more you post the more you look guilty, even when I'm not. People who are not saying anything remain (largely) accusation free.
Were we playing with plot cards?
Would it be better to select members from outside our group (Body, Tayrun, Mi-go) then? I'm not sure if that is the best strategy as it adds a lot more unknown variables to the mix.
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I dunno. Not seeing a reliable way to weed spies out.
Rotating out one seems like a good idea as if the mission goes wrong we have a fairly good idea who it was, not perfect I know as they could have not sabotaged an early one but this is the best we have.
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Here's my case: if I was the lone spy last mission, I would have sabotaged it. If I was a spy, I would not have invited multiple spies because I'd have no way of knowing if one wouldn't sabotage and blow over half our faction's cover the first turn. Way too risky of a move.
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It sorta depends. It is tight. Especially with the mission that requires 2 players...big question is whether they have a leader lined up that . It would be Tayrun. If it is.
Flimflam could possibly want to use this team if they are clean and then ruin their rep. Another alt.
. is not a verb. What did this whole post mean?
Also put me on the team fo' sho.
The post meant that it depends on what opportunities the spies choose to pursue. If they try to gain trust early on and have a leader lined up for the later missions , they might be more careful even if they were on an early mission.
That's the kind of thing a spy would do.
That's the kind of thing someone who thinks would do .
False patriot.
Or you could both be spies and scripted the argument to look as if you're not on the same side...
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Feeling threatened after being exposed as a spy, are you?
The name is Shadow, Spyrun.
She was imply we were working together also, you nincompoop. Like I would work with someone of your caliber.
Hmm? Who was? I've been too distracted by your obvious spy gibbering to pay much attention to the others.
Need I call your attention to the fact that I've been on a mission which passed and hence I'm obviously not a spy, Spygos, duuuuuhhhhhh.
Rookie, are you familiar with how spies gain the trust of the Resistance? A common spy tactic is to gain our trust and when assigned to a crucial future mission, sabotage it.
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Nah no spy would ever pass a mission like that, that's crazy, that's just handing points to the opponents!
Clearly you're trying to confuse us loyal Resistance member, Spymi-go!
Who's with me?
If so, my choices would change to:
Myself, Cerberus, blahmcblah, and Daemonis.
If that's not viable due to the deadline, no worries!
(I hope that fellow loyal resistance members will note that I am simply following our names round the current order in which we were listed, missing out any who a have already gone on a mission - any seemingly random selection would seem to me to be a more suspicious method of choosing)
There are 4 spies. The first mission, assuming that there is no spies, consisted of 3 members. And now, you're proposing to bring 4 different members. At this point, it is basically guaranteed that there is a spy among the 4. And that spy, I don't think will miss the oppurtunity to sabotage.
I like the previous plan better.
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