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PS3/360, they both match my hi-fi now, which do I buy?
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I was misquoted. You left out 'immediate'. It has still been less than a year since the release of the PS3 in the US. The thing was basically just released in the UK. It is a baby. Sony has the intention of coming out on top in the long run, but just give em some time, eh?
Thanks for the advice. I bought the PS3 on release day because of Resistance Fall of Man, and because of the Playstation BRAND. PS2 is my favorite console of all time and I was simply upgrading it. I continued to play my PS2 games and since then games like God of War 2, Odin Sphere, and Okami have come out and continue to give my PS3 added value. The fact that it was the cheapest blu-ray player available did not hurt either. Since the purchase of my PS3, I have been nothing but happy with the subsequent releases of Motorstorm, Oblivion, Ninja Gaiden, etc.
You don't see people bitching about a Porsche being 'absurdly expensive'. if a luxury item is simply out of your income bracket you don't buy it. If the PS3 is 'too expensive' for you then move on. Get over it. Don't bash it because it's expensive. It's expensive for a reason. Anyone who thinks Sony artificially inflated the price of the thing for some reason is delusional.
My friend spent a little bit more on his xbox 360 and all necessary components than I did on my PS3 and its components, so I don't see how the 360 can be viewed as SUCH a cheaper alternative. With each game costing $60 and people on here saying they'll be buying 8 games in the next 3 months, why is the actual console costing a hundred bucks more such a big deal anyway?
Yeah and I like renting 'old' stuff like God of War, Shadow of the Colossus, Sly Cooper 3 and Okami. What does that have to do with anything?
I swear I've seen PS3 games sit at the $60 price tag as well.
What "necessary" components did your friend purchase that made it MORE than your PS3?
You also don't see Porsche expecting to sell the same number of 911's as Honda sells Civics knowing that their market viability is heavily tied into units sold.
As for the cost issue, it's perception. Why do items cost 9.99, 19.99, 99.99 etc?
Because even if it's only a penny difference, and one that will be eaten up in taxes + more, average consumers will statistically choose a product that is listed for 9.99 over one listed as 10.00 regardless of other factors.
And your friend may have paid more for the 360+ other stuff, but that was not needed to play it. If you have no need of a wireless extender, remote, HD DVD player, high end A/V cables, etc. The 360, even at the level of the Elite, is still cheaper than the PS3.
The fact that the additional costs of either system becomes meaningless with the purchase of more and more games/accessories means little when comparing the "break in" costs of the system itself. It's all just perception and Sony screwed up this time just like Nintendo Screwed up with the N64.
But then, I'm aiming on getting a PS3 in a couple of months when UT3 hits, as I don't have a PC that'll do it justice and I highly dobt Epic is gonna convince MS to allow KB&M supports, which I need on a game like Unreal Tournament.
The PS3 can't afford to be a luxury brand, because ALL game machines need the mass market. Otherwise developers won't develop for it. This is already happening. It's not luxury, it's self-defeating. And I'm bashing the price because I want them to succeed; I liked everything Sony brought with the PS2. But success ain't happening at this price point.
Oh god let's not start this again. It never goes anywhere good.
You caught that out of context. Read the entire post before commenting.
According to the amount of games some people on here are claiming to purchase each month, that amount of hours would NEED to be put in to complete them all. Otherwise you're just wasting money. And I would never be so full of myself as to tell someone what they should be doing with their time. If someone wants to spend 8 hrs a day playing a game (WoW anyone?) than that's their business. The amount of replies on here during a Monday means there are plenty of people currently wasting their time reading and responding to silly forum posts
So I went into a Best Buy to pick up a couple of games and accessories before I ordered it.
I looked at the titles on display and frowned. Everything I was interested in was either out on 360 or Resistance. Ah well, eventually good games would be coming out and that Sony Store was one hell of a deal. So I went to the demo unit. Picking up the control I remember thinking it felt very light, almost annoyingly so but no biggie, at least the L2 and R2 buttons had been improved. Same analog sticks I've disliked ever since using the original Xbox controller, though. But, hey, it feels a bit more comfortable than the PS2 dual shock. The demos were NBA and Motorstorm, so I played the demo of Motorstorm. The graphics were nice and the crashes very cool looking but...something felt wrong. Crashing just felt so hollow, it took me a minute or two to realize this was because of the lack of rumble. Man, I knew I liked rumble but I didn't think I'd miss it this much. I left the store feeling rather deflated. After debating it on and off the rest of the day I just came to the conclusion that, even at $30 a month for one year the PS3 just wasn't worth it for me.
I like my PS2 well enough but never played Ratchet & Clank, I am not a Final Fantasy fan, and have never played all the way through any MGS since the first one. So even the THREE AAA titles it has on the horizon doesn't mean anything to me.
Not to mention the absurd number of great multiplatform and Wii or 360 only titles this year means I really don't have room for a PS3. Now I understand not everyone likes Halo but looking at this seasons line-up of titles I simply don't understand why anyone would pick a PS3 over a 360 this year. Uncharted isn't even getting as much positive hype as Perfect Dark Zero or Heavenly Sword did, and we know how those two turned out.
Even the hardware issues shouldn't be much of an issue, what with the new heatsinks, three year warranty, and the first shipment of 65nm in stores now.
Oh man, I have that same exact problem. It sucks so bad to do that too... I think I got to the end of Tales of Symphonia about 3 times, and could never go on.
Maybe it was my body forcing me to think the game never ends.
Tales of Symphonia never ends, because it has the best New Game + implimentation ever. Finish it!
So if they are wasting their time don't you think you are suggesting that they should be doing other things? :rotate:
I was like that, before achievements. Now they are a constant reminder when I leave a game unfinished. I probably went from finishing about 25% of my games to 75% on the 360. Dead Rising is a thorn in my side right now. I really want to get further along with it but the tidal wave of awesome games coming out is drowning me.
...does the PS2 have some sort of HD cable that can be bought for HD TVs? My 360 runs fine using the cables that came with the system (red/blue/green) but the PS2 looks like complete ass when using its yellow/red/white ones. Theres a few PS2 games I want to play again but they look horrible atm on my tv.
And yes I have a 360, and im planning on getting the PS3 once a few more games I want come out. Instead of contemplating which one I want, i'll get both.
trophies
don't know if they're out yet
so?
God, I didn't like Symphonia. I got about 10 hours into it and just couldn't force myself to go on any longer. The worst offender for me is DQ8. It's so long, and the experience is so homogenous the whole way through, I just can't do it.
I think they will start being integrated into games when Home is available in October.
I remember the Ratchet and Clank series on the pS2 having these objectives that were like Achievements, although they didn't give you points or anything. It was just fun figuring out what you needed to do to unlock each thing. They had funny titles that were clues to what you need to do in order to 'unlock' it.
I'm hoping the new Ratchet and Clank has a similar thing that is more integrated with your account.
That's why there's the unwritten rule that only achievements for good games count. It does add a bit of replayablity to the game, and show ya things you might not of known that were in the game.
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Buy the component cables for PS2 OR PS3, either would work, and you'd have an easier time finding the PS3 ones in a store, although the pS2 ones are probably cheaper.
They're more than likely already integrated into the games. Theres just no way of activating them yet.
Why do you say that? care to elaborate? I'd like to defend my position, but I am not sure which 360 exclusives you are referring to. Can you make a list of both systems exclusives so we can discuss before people are called weird?
I am a fan of neither MGS nor Final Fantasy.
I like being able to log into a web site from work and see where I am currently at on all my games. It helps pass the time. I can also look at co-workers gamer cards and see what they have been playing and how bad they suck compared to me. I can then give them shit. Do some people take them too seriously? You bet. That doesn't mean they are worthless, a lot of us really enjoy the fact that they are there.
I didn't say they were worthless. I meant i don't understand how people can take them so seriously as to buy games just to get the points. Even my coworkers do it, borrowing crappy games, again like Meet the Robinsons and Shrek in order to just get points. Why would you use your time playing a game like that for points?
Some people like collecting things? Maybe they like increasing their score? Shouldn't that be enough?
He is saying that achievement whores, in their quest for more achievement points, take on some bad habits and purchase some questionable games at times.
They are kind of like drug addicts but the symptoms aren't nearly as bad.
We are in complete agreement here. Spending your time playing crappy games just to inflate your epeen. Bleh.
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Achievement unlocked!
Best thing evar.
Seriously though, I <3 it.
I thought we were talking about videogames in this thread
This is a 360 vs. PS3 thread. Citing 'Call of Juarez' as a 'selling point' against the back catalog of PS1/PS2/PS3 is, well... interesting.
Insinuating that that post was just to "rack up" posts? Le sigh.
Actually, I was just expressing how it wasn't unexpected that the thread turned into a cock fight. It seems the original poster already made his decision, but we're still arguing which is better. We haven't had one in awhile, now that I think about it. Guess it's about time for that debate to surface again.
For someone who doesn't have a 360, can you describe the Live Arcade or point to a location on the web to learn more about it? I know it costs money, and not all 360's can access it due to lack of harddrive on some models (and the need for wifi adapter) but other than that I don't know about the games on it that are similar in quality to Super Stardust, Gripshift, Nucleus, Calling all Cars, Warhawk, Pain, Loco Roco, Echochrome and Gran Turismo HD, as well as the PS1 back catalog.
Wow, you're defending Sony sharply and in lavish detail.
And I can't help but notice that this is your first day here, and you've only posted in generalized Sony threads.
Hmmmm.
That reminds me, I need to pick up some potting soil on my way home.