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That reason being all its data is made up.
VGcharts is banned as a source from wikipedia.
Are there any sources you can find that I can actually read? Referencing a two year old magazine isn't exactly very helpful.
But assuming that Halo 2 sold 9.2 million and even excluding packed-in games (like Super Mario Bros and Tetris), Halo 2 still wouldn't be in the top 20 best selling games. Wikipedia's list excludes PC games, which means Halo 2 would be knocked out after The Sims and The Sims 2 were added to the list. So there.
As for San Andreas, that number is from two freaking years ago. It's not hard to believe that they've sold another couple of million in that time frame. In fact the San Andreas page mentions that as of June 2007, it's sold over 14 million (and even references another bloody magazine).
Also, the Gran Turismo 3 number they've got listed is wrong. According to Polyphony's own sales list GT3 has sold around 14.87 million and GT4 around 9.2 million (not including the Prologue and Concept's).
I think it'll be really close, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see it happen.
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You specifically said that Ninja Gaiden was a huge name in Japan and the problem with that is none of the them have even managed to sell 100k over there (Sigma might be close though).
As for the spike in PS3 sales, it was probably due to how few good PS3 titles came out, rather than the actual game franchise itself.
bruin: While looking through Wikipedia, I did notice that Halo 2 supposedly recorded 1.5 million pre-orders (which I believe Microsoft also announced). Both could indeed be genuine or it might just be Microsoft spin. Who knows?
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The Final Fantasy game is the reason for it. There was also a bundle that came with the game so a lot of people probably bought the bundle.
Welcome to any encyclopedia ever. It's links, however, do tend to be reliable.
Other encyclopedias are not editable by anyone with an internet connection.
You could not be more wrong.
For a month until Mario comes out, sure.
You have no way of backing up that statement.
Because it's wrong.
Hell, EA edited it to make themselves look better.
Ok, so you have shown example of one article which is unreliable out of nearly 2 million.
Do you fully understand the sheer amount of articles based on science, chemistry, history and whatnot that are 100% factually accurate. They account for well over half of all wikipedia articles.
What you SHOULD have said to not be wrong is 'Take all wikipedia articles with a grain of salt' because while ostensibly they are accurate they could be altered.
saying wikipedia is unreliable on everything is stupid and naive.
Yes, anyone can edit Wiki. And anyone can re-edit Wiki to fix the biased crap that appears, which is what those anal folks who police wiki do.
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Which is why I'll use wikipedia over a standard encyclopedia any day of the week.
p.s. Wikipedia has been found in various studies to be as reliable facts wise as print encyclpedias, averaging the same number of errors in various samples.
You people who insist on denying that Wikipedia holds any worth whatsoever, have you people actually visited it within the past... I dunno, ever? While anyone can edit it and mess it up, this also means that (SHOCK!) anyone can edit it back to make it correct again! Not to mention the people dedicating to fixing the site's info would see it as more of a job than some pastime, and so would be more persistent in fixing the site than some obnoxious preteen who wants to insist that Martin Luther King Jr. had three heads. (Which is a bit of stretch, considering that I'm unsure most preteens know who Martin Luther King Jr. is.)
Secondly, the large majority of Wikipedia's information is sourced to other sites that are not Wikipedia. And that's why Wikipedia is a godsend - you go to the main page, and you'll generally have links up the wazoo to -gasp!- other pages! That aren't Wikipedia! And may even be reliable! And Wikipedia uses these links and sources for their information!
Thirdly, Wikipedia has been, in various tests, found to be as accurate, if not moreso, than your average encyclopedia. Perception =/= reality, otherwise the PSP has no games, and the XBox 360 has nothing but shooters.
Secondly:
Mario Strikers Charged absolutely bombed on first day sales according to the sinobi blog. Maybe it'll pick up over the week, but... enh. Not looking good.
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Learn to read.
And for all those rabbiting on about regular encyclopedias by contrast, they don't generally contain things like sales figures at all, not would I rely on them for them if they did.
By the way, the test referred to showed it was more grammatically accurate than the Enclopedia Britannica online, which was neither a comparison with the (different) print version nor at all relevant to the issue of factual accuracy.
Apparently I need to learn to read, then. If it's not reliable for Subject (A), (A) being a variable, then by extension it must be unreliable for Subject (A). In the case of 'anything', Subject (A) then covers the entire spectrum, which is, well, everything.
So what's the clear 'distinction of meaning' here?
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Edit: Also, stop arguing about the reliability of Wikipedia. It's a hell of a lot more reliable than vgchartz and thats all that needs to be said. Games numbers are really hard to comeby outside of the US and Japan, I wouldn't really trust anything other than the NPD and Media Create.
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Nope. Wrong again.
If you say it is not reliable for anything, that means all wikipedia articles are classed as unreliable. therefore everything is unreliable by virtue of you saying that all wikipedia articles are the opposite of reliable, which is unreliable.
which is bullshit, because the wikipedia article on ME is accurate. so that shoots down your argument first off. secondly, like i said, you are taking one tiny miniscule fraction of the wikipedia articles, they have thousands, nay, millions of articles which are copied verbatim from textbooks and science journals. Wikipedia, like I said, should always be studied carefully and never used as a primary source for debate, but to say it is all unreliable is plain wrong. wikipedia is a source of a shitton of reliable, concrete evidence on all manner of subjects. sure, SOME articles are unreliable, but nowhere fucking near all.
dismissing wikipedia are innacurate in the same thread where people are citing vgchartz numbers smacks os insanity. one is clearly orders of magniture more reliable than the other.
Anywho, strikers bombed in japan? That's a damn shame. Don't they love soccer over there? Or is that just in Korea? Strikers deserves solid sales...I hope it picks back up.
should do really well in europe mind you. we love our football here. nintendo has also done a pretty big marketing push on it. ive seen TV ads. and I NEVER see nintendo tv ads. ever.
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