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Super Smash Bros.: Unofficial roster is out; demo on September 19th.

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    plufimplufim Dr Registered User regular
    I only say to wait a little while so everyone has a chance to find a bunch of different items and abilities, ensuring everyone's Mii is unique.

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    Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    plufim wrote: »
    I only say to wait a little while so everyone has a chance to find a bunch of different items and abilities, ensuring everyone's Mii is unique.

    My Hitler is gonna be better than your Hitler.

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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    I think there's someone here who mentioned that they're very sensitive to the hitler miis

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    Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    I think there's someone here who mentioned that they're very sensitive to the hitler miis

    Let's say Stalin then.


    Anyway, someone on Reddit cleaned up the leaked roster and made it look a little nicer:

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    ArteenArteen Adept ValeRegistered User regular
    Maz- wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    I think there's someone here who mentioned that they're very sensitive to the hitler miis

    Let's say Stalin then.
    Mussolini?

    You know, to keep it Italian.

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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    Maz- wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    I think there's someone here who mentioned that they're very sensitive to the hitler miis

    Let's say Stalin then.


    Anyway, someone on Reddit cleaned up the leaked roster and made it look a little nicer:

    QvHrByH.png

    Wouldn't mii fighter bring it to 50 squares

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    Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    Maz- wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    I think there's someone here who mentioned that they're very sensitive to the hitler miis

    Let's say Stalin then.


    Anyway, someone on Reddit cleaned up the leaked roster and made it look a little nicer:

    QvHrByH.png

    Honestly, if we get no one else...I'm more than ok with this roster. I don't even mind the clone corner.

    I'll miss Wolf, because it was nice to have another villain represented, but even then I'm loving this roster.

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    Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    Maz- wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    I think there's someone here who mentioned that they're very sensitive to the hitler miis

    Let's say Stalin then.


    Anyway, someone on Reddit cleaned up the leaked roster and made it look a little nicer:

    QvHrByH.png

    Wouldn't mii fighter bring it to 50 squares

    Mii Fighter replaces the random icon when customization is turned on.

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    That was me. Just as long as nobody uses one against me its fine.
    I just find the whole idea of making light of a mass murderer offensive.

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    BronzeKoopaBronzeKoopa Registered User regular
    Wish I could get a copy of the Petch and Lonk streetpass Miis to use in Smash.

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    shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    That was me. Just as long as nobody uses one against me its fine.
    I just find the whole idea of making light of a mass murderer offensive.

    I'm with Mel Brooks in this one. As long as you're mocking the murderer and not his victims, you're damaging his or her's desired power to create fear and respect.

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    Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    edzepp wrote: »

    They're probably not gonna show a newcomer trailer as those have always been "international". I'm guessing they're gonna show a 3DS-specific launch trailer.

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    edzeppedzepp Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
    EDIT: Never mind. It's not anything.

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    CokomonCokomon Our butts are worth fighting for! Registered User regular
    Maz- wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    Maz- wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    I think there's someone here who mentioned that they're very sensitive to the hitler miis

    Let's say Stalin then.


    Anyway, someone on Reddit cleaned up the leaked roster and made it look a little nicer:

    QvHrByH.png

    Wouldn't mii fighter bring it to 50 squares

    Mii Fighter replaces the random icon when customization is turned on.

    Why would it do that? Why do some people think that? Where did this info even come from? What do you do if you actually want to use a random character when customizations are on? Mii Fighters aren't exactly the same.

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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    Cokomon wrote: »
    Maz- wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    Maz- wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    I think there's someone here who mentioned that they're very sensitive to the hitler miis

    Let's say Stalin then.


    Anyway, someone on Reddit cleaned up the leaked roster and made it look a little nicer:

    QvHrByH.png

    Wouldn't mii fighter bring it to 50 squares

    Mii Fighter replaces the random icon when customization is turned on.

    Why would it do that? Why do some people think that? Where did this info even come from? What do you do if you actually want to use a random character when customizations are on? Mii Fighters aren't exactly the same.

    Well, I can kind of see the thought process that would go into disabling random selection with customizations active, though it depends on how customizations are equipped. Basically the line of thought had to be "if you don't know what character you have you wouldn't know what to equip", and unlike palutena it seems miis don't even have a default moveset.

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    Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    Cokomon wrote: »
    Maz- wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    Maz- wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    I think there's someone here who mentioned that they're very sensitive to the hitler miis

    Let's say Stalin then.


    Anyway, someone on Reddit cleaned up the leaked roster and made it look a little nicer:

    QvHrByH.png

    Wouldn't mii fighter bring it to 50 squares

    Mii Fighter replaces the random icon when customization is turned on.

    Why would it do that? Why do some people think that? Where did this info even come from? What do you do if you actually want to use a random character when customizations are on? Mii Fighters aren't exactly the same.

    It's not 100% guaranteed yet, just an educated guess. We do know however that they can't be played when customization is turned off.

    Basically the reasoning is that there is no clear "default" Mii Fighter - first of all, there are three distinct Mii Fighters with entirely different movesets. Also, they rely heavily on the Mii you're using, both in appearance and in properties (the Mii's height and weight affects the Mii Figher's weight and speed).

    There's also the matter of their custom moves - the Mii Fighters not only have 12 distinct special moves like Palutena, their special moves also aren't all strictly tied to one of the four directions.

    I suppose there could be a default Mii Brawler, Swordfighter and Gunner, but that would kinda defeat the point of the character. I dunno, it's not set in stone yet, but it's definitely possible that you can't play random with Mii Fighters.

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    ZekZek Registered User regular
    All Random does is pick a square and click on it for you, I don't see any reason they would replace it.

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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    That's what it did in melee but in brawl it kept you as random until the match started

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Maz- wrote: »
    edzepp wrote: »
    They're probably not gonna show a newcomer trailer as those have always been "international". I'm guessing they're gonna show a 3DS-specific launch trailer.
    Because the leak was from foreign nations, Smash is now a Japanese-only release.

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    Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    Well, the Direct is Japan only, but looks like the rest of the world is getting something too. Derek from GameXplain confirmed that Nintendo is holding a closed media event at PAX with a new build of the game.

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
    So I'm excited for this but have only been loosely following it because fuck, I know I'm getting it along with all of my friends on the 3DS and it's a few months out so I didn't really worry.

    But I just heard about a (uh a thing. That may be forbidden.) on the Giantbomb podcast. Looking back over the last ten pages or so, there has been so much misinformation that the casual observer has no idea what is actually going to be in this game from all this.

    But seriously
    The duck hunt dog? The fuck?

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    Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    So I'm excited for this but have only been loosely following it because fuck, I know I'm getting it along with all of my friends on the 3DS and it's a few months out so I didn't really worry.

    But I just heard about a (uh a thing. That may be forbidden.) on the Giantbomb podcast. Looking back over the last ten pages or so, there has been so much misinformation that the casual observer has no idea what is actually going to be in this game from all this.

    But seriously
    The duck hunt dog? The fuck?

    It's really not any weirder than Mr. Game & Watch or ROB.

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    KupiKupi Registered User regular
    I know that it's basically impossible, but I really hope that customization winds up being at least a sideshow on the competitive circuit. The fact that you could have two players bring the same character, but with such different customizations that they handle completely differently, just makes it feel like there would be infinite potential for each competitor to bring their unique style to the table.

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Kupi wrote: »
    I know that it's basically impossible, but I really hope that customization winds up being at least a sideshow on the competitive circuit. The fact that you could have two players bring the same character, but with such different customizations that they handle completely differently, just makes it feel like there would be infinite potential for each competitor to bring their unique style to the table.

    Yeah. It'll be a lot more work, but I hope Nintendo tries to keep it all balanced.

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    Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    I'm strongly in favor of enabling customization for any kind of matches or tournaments we'll organize here among us.

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    ZekZek Registered User regular
    Assuming Smash 4 is accepted by the competitive community, I expect they'll ban certain specials on top tier characters if they get out of hand. But it's actually a good thing to have that choice available because it gives the weaker characters more chances at being competitive with the right specials.

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Zek wrote: »
    Assuming Smash 4 is accepted by the competitive community, I expect they'll ban certain specials on top tier characters if they get out of hand. But it's actually a good thing to have that choice available because it gives the weaker characters more chances at being competitive with the right specials.

    I'm OK with a small amount of bans, but I hope Nintendo embraces the competitive community and works to limit the necessity of bans

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    ZekZek Registered User regular
    kime wrote: »
    Zek wrote: »
    Assuming Smash 4 is accepted by the competitive community, I expect they'll ban certain specials on top tier characters if they get out of hand. But it's actually a good thing to have that choice available because it gives the weaker characters more chances at being competitive with the right specials.

    I'm OK with a small amount of bans, but I hope Nintendo embraces the competitive community and works to limit the necessity of bans

    It would be great if Nintendo did proper balance patches but I don't dare get my hopes up for that. Much like I won't expect the netcode to be better than Brawl's until I see it firsthand.

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    Blackbird SR-71CBlackbird SR-71C Registered User regular
    Maz- wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    So I'm excited for this but have only been loosely following it because fuck, I know I'm getting it along with all of my friends on the 3DS and it's a few months out so I didn't really worry.

    But I just heard about a (uh a thing. That may be forbidden.) on the Giantbomb podcast. Looking back over the last ten pages or so, there has been so much misinformation that the casual observer has no idea what is actually going to be in this game from all this.

    But seriously
    The duck hunt dog? The fuck?

    It's really not any weirder than Mr. Game & Watch or ROB.

    Duck Hunt dog didn't have a terribly infamous, useless peripheral, and it wasn't literally one of the things that got Nintendo started.

    Same goes for Pacman.

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    edited August 2014
    Maz- wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    So I'm excited for this but have only been loosely following it because fuck, I know I'm getting it along with all of my friends on the 3DS and it's a few months out so I didn't really worry.

    But I just heard about a (uh a thing. That may be forbidden.) on the Giantbomb podcast. Looking back over the last ten pages or so, there has been so much misinformation that the casual observer has no idea what is actually going to be in this game from all this.

    But seriously
    The duck hunt dog? The fuck?

    It's really not any weirder than Mr. Game & Watch or ROB.

    Duck Hunt dog didn't have a terribly infamous, useless peripheral, and it wasn't literally one of the things that got Nintendo started.

    Same goes for Pacman.

    He launched a peripheral and was on the same cart as Super Mario Brothers.

    For a lot of kids who owned an NES he is literally as closely associated with it as Mario is himself.

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    ZekZek Registered User regular
    Maz- wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    So I'm excited for this but have only been loosely following it because fuck, I know I'm getting it along with all of my friends on the 3DS and it's a few months out so I didn't really worry.

    But I just heard about a (uh a thing. That may be forbidden.) on the Giantbomb podcast. Looking back over the last ten pages or so, there has been so much misinformation that the casual observer has no idea what is actually going to be in this game from all this.

    But seriously
    The duck hunt dog? The fuck?

    It's really not any weirder than Mr. Game & Watch or ROB.

    Duck Hunt dog didn't have a terribly infamous, useless peripheral, and it wasn't literally one of the things that got Nintendo started.

    Same goes for Pacman.

    Can't tell if you're agreeing with him or not, but Duck Hunt has a famous not-useless peripheral and it absolutely was one of the things that got Nintendo started alongside Super Mario Bros. It's easily one of the most beloved games on NES, certainly moreso than stuff like Ice Climber and Kid Icarus.

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    Blackbird SR-71CBlackbird SR-71C Registered User regular
    Zek wrote: »
    Maz- wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    So I'm excited for this but have only been loosely following it because fuck, I know I'm getting it along with all of my friends on the 3DS and it's a few months out so I didn't really worry.

    But I just heard about a (uh a thing. That may be forbidden.) on the Giantbomb podcast. Looking back over the last ten pages or so, there has been so much misinformation that the casual observer has no idea what is actually going to be in this game from all this.

    But seriously
    The duck hunt dog? The fuck?

    It's really not any weirder than Mr. Game & Watch or ROB.

    Duck Hunt dog didn't have a terribly infamous, useless peripheral, and it wasn't literally one of the things that got Nintendo started.

    Same goes for Pacman.

    Can't tell if you're agreeing with him or not, but Duck Hunt has a famous not-useless peripheral and it absolutely was one of the things that got Nintendo started alongside Super Mario Bros. It's easily one of the most beloved games on NES, certainly moreso than stuff like Ice Climber and Kid Icarus.

    That peripheral wasn't really a Duck Hunt thing. That's like saying the Wii mote is a Zelda: Skyward Sword thing. Whereas Rob is a Rob thing :P

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    DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    Zek wrote: »
    Maz- wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    So I'm excited for this but have only been loosely following it because fuck, I know I'm getting it along with all of my friends on the 3DS and it's a few months out so I didn't really worry.

    But I just heard about a (uh a thing. That may be forbidden.) on the Giantbomb podcast. Looking back over the last ten pages or so, there has been so much misinformation that the casual observer has no idea what is actually going to be in this game from all this.

    But seriously
    The duck hunt dog? The fuck?

    It's really not any weirder than Mr. Game & Watch or ROB.

    Duck Hunt dog didn't have a terribly infamous, useless peripheral, and it wasn't literally one of the things that got Nintendo started.

    Same goes for Pacman.

    Can't tell if you're agreeing with him or not, but Duck Hunt has a famous not-useless peripheral and it absolutely was one of the things that got Nintendo started alongside Super Mario Bros. It's easily one of the most beloved games on NES, certainly moreso than stuff like Ice Climber and Kid Icarus.

    That peripheral wasn't really a Duck Hunt thing. That's like saying the Wii mote is a Zelda: Skyward Sword thing. Whereas Rob is a Rob thing :P

    I would argue that most people associate the light gun with Duck Hunt actually. It's pretty iconic.

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    TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    Zek wrote: »
    Maz- wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    So I'm excited for this but have only been loosely following it because fuck, I know I'm getting it along with all of my friends on the 3DS and it's a few months out so I didn't really worry.

    But I just heard about a (uh a thing. That may be forbidden.) on the Giantbomb podcast. Looking back over the last ten pages or so, there has been so much misinformation that the casual observer has no idea what is actually going to be in this game from all this.

    But seriously
    The duck hunt dog? The fuck?

    It's really not any weirder than Mr. Game & Watch or ROB.

    Duck Hunt dog didn't have a terribly infamous, useless peripheral, and it wasn't literally one of the things that got Nintendo started.

    Same goes for Pacman.

    Can't tell if you're agreeing with him or not, but Duck Hunt has a famous not-useless peripheral and it absolutely was one of the things that got Nintendo started alongside Super Mario Bros. It's easily one of the most beloved games on NES, certainly moreso than stuff like Ice Climber and Kid Icarus.

    That peripheral wasn't really a Duck Hunt thing. That's like saying the Wii mote is a Zelda: Skyward Sword thing. Whereas Rob is a Rob thing :P

    I would argue that most people associate the light gun with Duck Hunt actually. It's pretty iconic.

    I always associated it with Gumshoe growing up.

    Loved that game.

    Duck Hunt wasn't until I got older.

    Now I want Mr. Stevenson from Gumshoe to show up.

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    Blackbird SR-71CBlackbird SR-71C Registered User regular
    Zek wrote: »
    Maz- wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    So I'm excited for this but have only been loosely following it because fuck, I know I'm getting it along with all of my friends on the 3DS and it's a few months out so I didn't really worry.

    But I just heard about a (uh a thing. That may be forbidden.) on the Giantbomb podcast. Looking back over the last ten pages or so, there has been so much misinformation that the casual observer has no idea what is actually going to be in this game from all this.

    But seriously
    The duck hunt dog? The fuck?

    It's really not any weirder than Mr. Game & Watch or ROB.

    Duck Hunt dog didn't have a terribly infamous, useless peripheral, and it wasn't literally one of the things that got Nintendo started.

    Same goes for Pacman.

    Can't tell if you're agreeing with him or not, but Duck Hunt has a famous not-useless peripheral and it absolutely was one of the things that got Nintendo started alongside Super Mario Bros. It's easily one of the most beloved games on NES, certainly moreso than stuff like Ice Climber and Kid Icarus.

    That peripheral wasn't really a Duck Hunt thing. That's like saying the Wii mote is a Zelda: Skyward Sword thing. Whereas Rob is a Rob thing :P

    I would argue that most people associate the light gun with Duck Hunt actually. It's pretty iconic.

    But there's actually quite a few NES games that are, well, at least techincally, compatible with the Light Gun...

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    DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
    Zek wrote: »
    Maz- wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    So I'm excited for this but have only been loosely following it because fuck, I know I'm getting it along with all of my friends on the 3DS and it's a few months out so I didn't really worry.

    But I just heard about a (uh a thing. That may be forbidden.) on the Giantbomb podcast. Looking back over the last ten pages or so, there has been so much misinformation that the casual observer has no idea what is actually going to be in this game from all this.

    But seriously
    The duck hunt dog? The fuck?

    It's really not any weirder than Mr. Game & Watch or ROB.

    Duck Hunt dog didn't have a terribly infamous, useless peripheral, and it wasn't literally one of the things that got Nintendo started.

    Same goes for Pacman.

    Can't tell if you're agreeing with him or not, but Duck Hunt has a famous not-useless peripheral and it absolutely was one of the things that got Nintendo started alongside Super Mario Bros. It's easily one of the most beloved games on NES, certainly moreso than stuff like Ice Climber and Kid Icarus.

    That peripheral wasn't really a Duck Hunt thing. That's like saying the Wii mote is a Zelda: Skyward Sword thing. Whereas Rob is a Rob thing :P

    I would argue that most people associate the light gun with Duck Hunt actually. It's pretty iconic.

    But there's actually quite a few NES games that are, well, at least techincally, compatible with the Light Gun...

    Certainly, but they didn't come packaged with Super Mario Bros.

    One of my favorite light gun games were Wild Gunman and Hogan's Alley

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    ArteenArteen Adept ValeRegistered User regular
    I don't see how they can Duck Hunt dog and not also bring in World Class Track Meet guy.

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Kick Master, though.

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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    Zek wrote: »
    Assuming Smash 4 is accepted by the competitive community, I expect they'll ban certain specials on top tier characters if they get out of hand. But it's actually a good thing to have that choice available because it gives the weaker characters more chances at being competitive with the right specials.

    There also talk of banning equipment for reasons of it's probably just grinding based and also the existence of attack-lowering items leading to infinites

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