So, I just realized that I probably spend 2/3rds of these arc burn Phogoth strikes simply waiting for the hive to stop dropping suppressive AoE fire on a rock I'm hiding behind. It's really not fun, and I certainly don't see the challenge of firing off a salvo and then being suppressed behind something again for another period of time.
The only benefit of doing it is the rep/xp boost... and evne the benefits of that are marginal at best. The loot can range from an exotic that I actually might not have already (now) and 5 strange coins, so... it would be absurd to even attach hope to that.
Why do you guys do the nightfall?
How can they make it into something more entertaining, yet challenging instead of an exponentially boring exercise in attrition warfare?
I think nightfalls are built to be done in groups, and solo-ing them is going to be the exact experience you described.
In groups, I think the nightfalls are a blast and do them for fun.
Except for the fact that the nightfalls with burn synergy play out the same way - players spend a significantly higher time suppressed - because the power of friendship doesn't magically make your character immune to the damage bonus the enemies get.
Lots of mechanically tedious tasks can be made fun by doing them with a certain group. :P
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Doing content with @Cobell has led me to believe he is a lucky charm. A vault of glass and a nightfall and I get the raid shotgun, the fire primary scout rifle, and now a Thunderlord. I never get a damn thing from either it seems, so I am thinking I need to start kidnapping him for anything with a loot drop.
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I got the shotgun from the raid last week, but haven't had a chance to use it. Anyone have any thoughts on it?
It's good in the crucible; I was still able to get Buckshot Bruiser medals with it. Only problem is that it drops ammo when you die.
It's good against yellow hive, but The Trolley Problem completely outshines it.
Between The Trolley Problem and Murmur, I'm completely on board with fusion rifles. I'm obliged to, though, since 5 of the 8 new weapons I've received since TDB have been fusion rifles.
Just did the nightfall with @Brogey and my friend . Friend got the arachnid hunter helm, Bogey got some Starfire warlock chest piece, I got 10 strange coins. I hope Xur has Helm of the Inmost Light for upgrade .
This confirms my suspicion that Brogey is bad luck in nightfalls
He stole my exotic drop one time on a freebie kill for him! 10 seconds, he was in the instance. :U
Confirmed and updated. @Brogey is bad luck in everything.
From my point of view, the Jedi are evil! you guys are incredibly good luck! At least I'm very appreciative, and suppress myself from cackling maniacally. :P
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Still not a Mythoclast or VoC. @juicebox989 has proven how untrustworthy he is!
Got a Found Verdict in addition to the Fatebringer (same drop), Kabr's boots, and my third Timebreaker (third as in third I sharded today). Good times! Should rename it Team Not Appearing In This Film.
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I got the shotgun from the raid last week, but haven't had a chance to use it. Anyone have any thoughts on it?
It's good in the crucible; I was still able to get Buckshot Bruiser medals with it. Only problem is that it drops ammo when you die.
It's good against yellow hive, but The Trolley Problem completely outshines it.
Between The Trolley Problem and Murmur, I'm completely on board with fusion rifles. I'm obliged to, though, since 5 of the 8 new weapons I've received since TDB have been fusion rifles.
I've got two Trolley Problems since the expansion (plus a Plug.1 and a Purifier?) and they've all been either solar or arc which is pretty annoying since ... ya know Murmur can do both.
I got the shotgun from the raid last week, but haven't had a chance to use it. Anyone have any thoughts on it?
It's good in the crucible; I was still able to get Buckshot Bruiser medals with it. Only problem is that it drops ammo when you die.
It's good against yellow hive, but The Trolley Problem completely outshines it.
Between The Trolley Problem and Murmur, I'm completely on board with fusion rifles. I'm obliged to, though, since 5 of the 8 new weapons I've received since TDB have been fusion rifles.
I've got two Trolley Problems since the expansion (plus a Plug.1 and a Purifier?) and they've all been either solar or arc which is pretty annoying since ... ya know Murmur can do both.
So Trolley Problem is good?
It has the highest impact and mine has a range boost. It was my weapon of choice for nuking Crota over the ice breaker.
Doing content with @Cobell has led me to believe he is a lucky charm. A vault of glass and a nightfall and I get the raid shotgun, the fire primary scout rifle, and now a Thunderlord. I never get a damn thing from either it seems, so I am thinking I need to start kidnapping him for anything with a loot drop.
I on the other hand got coins 5 and 6.
And someone else got the hawkmoon in that VoG run, too.
I did, however, then get two suros regimes from the first crota raid chest though (on different chars). So basically when my group hopefully runs crota later this week, I am pretty sure everyone is getting gjallahorns.
The nightfall added 12 ascendant energy to my scrooge mcduck money pile of energy that I dont really need. Can't I give this away to some orphans or something?
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We killed the crap out of Crota again tonight. The first two times my PS4 ate the video, but this time it actually worked, hooray! So here, for your enjoyment, is the 8 minutes it took us to take down Crota (Yes, this was our one and only attempt. There definitely weren't 15 wipes in the hour preceding this. Nope.)
This is from the sword carrier's POV, of course. We had one terrifying moment where our sniper got killed just before the ogres spawned, but we managed to get him back up, take down the oversoul, and still down the ogres so we could recompose and finish Crota.
A few tips I'll point out from the video:
All the hopping around we're doing is to try to get eyes on Crota and the Swordbearer so we can know exactly where both of them are at all times. You want to wait until Crota moves back to center before you kill the Swordbearer, so that's what we're doing when we're huddled in the hallway hopping.
For the ogres, we had our titan pop Weapons of Light behind us so we could all snag the buff, then we unload with machine guns and heavy ammo. You can normally stunlock the ogres like this before they even fire a shot. Unfortunately you'll see the ogres that nearly wiped us in this video because we were busy with the oversoul and couldn't stunlock them immediately. Huge difference.
You want the sword carrier to be a Bladedancer, almost without question. It gives you the best chance of landing 2 combos on Crota before the sword expires. You'll notice after the first combo, I retreat to the side and crouch to go invisible, then immediately get into position behind Crota while invisible. This usually lets me start swinging before he takes a knee and gives me time for 4 or more heavy hits on him, which is almost a quarter of his life.
Remember to tip your sniper on the way out, folks.
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I logged on to the Destiny website and it had loads of new Grimoire cards unlocked, like Rasputin (1), the cards of Heart/Eyes/Hand of Crota and so on.
So more stuff to read (especially about the 6 that went to fight Crota).
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Team Cold Nuggets cleared to Crota in under an hour, but couldn't quite finish him. Much of this can be attributed to my propensity for overestimating our DPS and sending our dear Swordsman, @Hiryu02, in too early. My apologies!
I'll let someone else handle the call on Thursday.
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A little pissed that it didn't save my clip. Had a rumble match where I spawned in at -1700 points and took the win, resulting in a rage quit from the previous no. 1. All I can say is: always have a plan c.
While it may well have been in this case, I just wanted to note that not every quit is a rage-quit. As someone whose internet would be described by an estate agent as 'tenuous', it's not always the choice in the hands of the departee.
A little pissed that it didn't save my clip. Had a rumble match where I spawned in at -1700 points and took the win, resulting in a rage quit from the previous no. 1. All I can say is: always have a plan c.
While it may well have been in this case, I just wanted to note that not every quit is a rage-quit. As someone whose internet would be described by an estate agent as 'tenuous', it's not always the choice in the hands of the departee.
Yeah a lot of players genuinely get dropped regardless of their internet quality, usually after being killed. Hell, I've had entire matches swing because half my team was stuck in the respawn state. It's even more annoying when you're winning and these things happen.
Unless you're saying that he "rage-quit" after you won the match, in which case I suppose our definition of "rage-quit" is really different.
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Hell, I've tried to wind people up who've been relentlessly killing me by dancing when I finally manage to get one over on them, only to see them start doing it back to me, and rather than boil the blood, it just makes me laugh instead. It's a bizarre moment of camaraderie where I've no idea what they're thinking, but it feels like I'm laughing with them.
Are there still any loot caves left? I desperately need some gear to dismantle for my warlock alt. I'm close to hitting 30 (and 31 once I get the urn quest gloves) but I need so much hadronic essence.
Are there still any loot caves left? I desperately need some gear to dismantle for my warlock alt. I'm close to hitting 30 (and 31 once I get the urn quest gloves) but I need so much hadronic essence.
"We''ve woken the hive" and something something about failsafes.
Are there still any loot caves left? I desperately need some gear to dismantle for my warlock alt. I'm close to hitting 30 (and 31 once I get the urn quest gloves) but I need so much hadronic essence.
You can buy a helm for 240 glimmer from the vanguard vendor (the robot dude in the ship landing area). I think it'd be faster to farm glimmer to buy those than some random loot drops. Farming glimmer has the upside of also dropping things sometimes, which every drop saves you 240+ glimmer.
Are there still any loot caves left? I desperately need some gear to dismantle for my warlock alt. I'm close to hitting 30 (and 31 once I get the urn quest gloves) but I need so much hadronic essence.
Personally I'd just do Roc Playlist strikes. You'll get tonnes of blue engrams in the process, plus you have the chance to get a new vanguard legendary jumpship.
You'll also earn your vanguard marks for the week.
Just learned that the Titan exotic leg armour they've added increase the amount of time your shoulder charge stays active.
So now those are all I want in the world.
Are there still any loot caves left? I desperately need some gear to dismantle for my warlock alt. I'm close to hitting 30 (and 31 once I get the urn quest gloves) but I need so much hadronic essence.
Personally I'd just do Roc Playlist strikes. You'll get tonnes of blue engrams in the process, plus you have the chance to get a new vanguard legendary jumpship.
You'll also earn your vanguard marks for the week.
I've been trying that, but the game seems to give me engrams at a rate inversely proportional to how much I need them! On my titan the ground is littered with greens, but the game starts holding out on me as soon as I switch to my warlock.
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Got dragons breath from nightfall last night... The rest of my night consisted of friends wishing ill will upon me...
Team Cold Nuggets cleared to Crota in under an hour, but couldn't quite finish him. Much of this can be attributed to my propensity for overestimating our DPS and sending our dear Swordsman, @Hiryu02, in too early. My apologies!
I'll let someone else handle the call on Thursday.
This won't even be an issue on Thursday. Literally the minute after you logged off I found a strat that would have given us a significant safety buffer during the shield burns. He's going down next we meet.
I feel very goosey for being so tunnel-visioned for that fight. I'm sorry I held us all up.
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A cool cloak, but it looks pretty heavy and also impractical.
Edit: and we're full up! Here we go, Team "I Guess I Am Good Enough To Raid With You" is on for VoG!
But we do have a third run tentatively scheduled for Sunday. And I did pull No Land Beyond from his first kill tonight.
And the raid chest is finished on my titan. Now I need to contemplate the gloves.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Except for the fact that the nightfalls with burn synergy play out the same way - players spend a significantly higher time suppressed - because the power of friendship doesn't magically make your character immune to the damage bonus the enemies get.
Lots of mechanically tedious tasks can be made fun by doing them with a certain group. :P
That would have been very handy to have when I was hunting ghosts for the achievement. Still a few I am missing though.
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Even when someone was pushing us off the cliffs...
It's good in the crucible; I was still able to get Buckshot Bruiser medals with it. Only problem is that it drops ammo when you die.
It's good against yellow hive, but The Trolley Problem completely outshines it.
Between The Trolley Problem and Murmur, I'm completely on board with fusion rifles. I'm obliged to, though, since 5 of the 8 new weapons I've received since TDB have been fusion rifles.
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Still not a Mythoclast or VoC. @juicebox989 has proven how untrustworthy he is!
Got a Found Verdict in addition to the Fatebringer (same drop), Kabr's boots, and my third Timebreaker (third as in third I sharded today). Good times! Should rename it Team Not Appearing In This Film.
I've got two Trolley Problems since the expansion (plus a Plug.1 and a Purifier?) and they've all been either solar or arc which is pretty annoying since ... ya know Murmur can do both.
So Trolley Problem is good?
Good times were had!
Atheon continues to be an asshole and gave me another Timebreaker, shards, and nothing else. Fuck that guy and the pre-DLC loot system.
It has the highest impact and mine has a range boost. It was my weapon of choice for nuking Crota over the ice breaker.
It one shots level 30 cabal majors.
I on the other hand got coins 5 and 6.
And someone else got the hawkmoon in that VoG run, too.
I did, however, then get two suros regimes from the first crota raid chest though (on different chars). So basically when my group hopefully runs crota later this week, I am pretty sure everyone is getting gjallahorns.
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A few tips I'll point out from the video:
For the ogres, we had our titan pop Weapons of Light behind us so we could all snag the buff, then we unload with machine guns and heavy ammo. You can normally stunlock the ogres like this before they even fire a shot. Unfortunately you'll see the ogres that nearly wiped us in this video because we were busy with the oversoul and couldn't stunlock them immediately. Huge difference.
You want the sword carrier to be a Bladedancer, almost without question. It gives you the best chance of landing 2 combos on Crota before the sword expires. You'll notice after the first combo, I retreat to the side and crouch to go invisible, then immediately get into position behind Crota while invisible. This usually lets me start swinging before he takes a knee and gives me time for 4 or more heavy hits on him, which is almost a quarter of his life.
Remember to tip your sniper on the way out, folks.
So more stuff to read (especially about the 6 that went to fight Crota).
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I'll let someone else handle the call on Thursday.
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While it may well have been in this case, I just wanted to note that not every quit is a rage-quit. As someone whose internet would be described by an estate agent as 'tenuous', it's not always the choice in the hands of the departee.
Yeah a lot of players genuinely get dropped regardless of their internet quality, usually after being killed. Hell, I've had entire matches swing because half my team was stuck in the respawn state. It's even more annoying when you're winning and these things happen.
Unless you're saying that he "rage-quit" after you won the match, in which case I suppose our definition of "rage-quit" is really different.
"We''ve woken the hive" and something something about failsafes.
You can buy a helm for 240 glimmer from the vanguard vendor (the robot dude in the ship landing area). I think it'd be faster to farm glimmer to buy those than some random loot drops. Farming glimmer has the upside of also dropping things sometimes, which every drop saves you 240+ glimmer.
Also this last hotfix is pretty great with making the light level curve on raid gear less shitty and making the helm drop in normal mode.
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Personally I'd just do Roc Playlist strikes. You'll get tonnes of blue engrams in the process, plus you have the chance to get a new vanguard legendary jumpship.
You'll also earn your vanguard marks for the week.
So now those are all I want in the world.
I've been trying that, but the game seems to give me engrams at a rate inversely proportional to how much I need them! On my titan the ground is littered with greens, but the game starts holding out on me as soon as I switch to my warlock.
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This won't even be an issue on Thursday. Literally the minute after you logged off I found a strat that would have given us a significant safety buffer during the shield burns. He's going down next we meet.
I feel very goosey for being so tunnel-visioned for that fight. I'm sorry I held us all up.