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edited April 2015
Of course it's not permanent. Well. Sort of. I can stay indefinitely. But! There's a two year travel date currently. Once the two years are up I then can apply for permanent residency full stop.
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edited April 2015
my wife asked a question of me this morning and i didnt know how to answer
why does australia put so much focus on our soldiers specifically, and one battle specifically, from WW1 when most other countries, particularly European ones, commemorate the end of the war on Nov 11th and mourn all soldiers equally, not just their own?
That's a good question. What follows might be a good answer, but I'll probably leave some important stuff out.
The Gallipoli Campaign is important because we were important to it. Yeah, more of our soldiers died on the Western Front (roughly the same amount died or were wounded in the battle of the Somme than in the entire Gallipoli Campaign*), but they weren't really important to the batle. That is, they were just soldiers among the many other soldiers that were there. The Gallipoli Campaign, being scraped together from whatever loose ends the British could round up, featured colonial troops. They weren't the only troops, the British had their own soldiers there too who did a lot of the fighting. But if you're going to pick a Campaign where Australian or New Zealand troops were the most important then it'd be the Gallipoli Campaign.
*The Battle of the Somme: 23,000 Aus. 7,408 NZ.
The Gallipoli Campaign: 28,150 Aus. 7,473 NZ.
As for remembering soldiers, at most services I attend there is a focus on Australian, New Zealand and Turkish troops. If the British and the German troops etc are mentioned they're included in general references to the war as a whole.
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Donovan PuppyfuckerA dagger in the dark isworth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered Userregular
I think because that was the first really big losses we had suffered? It was the biggest war the world had ever seen, we were a young country looking for an identity, so the trope of "valiant soldiers dying in vain for their country" struck a chord?
Before then the country was all, "Yo ho ho, let's have a war!"
Gallipoli was the point at which a lot of people realised, wait no, this is actually really fucked up.
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It was the first campaign we ran as a country. We've previously had been engaged at the Boers but that was as a colony.
It was the first time we essentially wandered out of our country and said, this is us, here we are and we disagree with what's happening.
Beyond that it's not just representative of world war I. Keep in mind it's called ANZAC day, not galipoli day. Remembrance day recognizes the end of world war I. And it's subsequently import because of that. ANZAC day represents all the men and women who have served not just in world war one, but in all subsequent conflicts and peace keeping missions.
You should go to a service. They put this into words far more eloquently than I do.
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I'm not Australian but having gone to an ANZAC Dawn Service almost every year since I've been here, they do a good job of imparting its cultural significance. I go to support Blake, but I also like looking it as a way to commemorate the sacrifices made by people that created the place I've made my home.
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UnluckyThat's not meant to happenRegistered Userregular
With how many maps have Australia like a fifth cut off, I am honestly flattered they remember us.
Also now I can't unhear "RIKT"
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Says a lot about the character of those young men that in the face of that, they chose to find ways to sneak into the service of their home country rather than flip the bird and carry on living their normal lives
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So there is a place that does those escape room scenarios on the Albany highway just up from our place. I did not realise they were there, they are called Mystic Clue. Anybody interested?
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I'd be up for it. I've always wanted to try one of those things.
What's the advantage of saying that, I didn't see any one here wander in and say how great war is.
I don't disagree with it, but putting it out there just gives the day a negative aspect to it.
I've never really seen ANZAC day celebrated as a positive thing anyway, besides of course the bogans that get hellaciously drunk and slur-scream "I was only 19" and "Khe Sanh" on repeat for hours.
Lots of speeches today about how the war(s) affected everyone (and it wasn't a general statement, they went through and mentioned nearly every way the war could affect a person). Which seems like it might be widening the scope of ANZAC day too far but it's totally true, wars do affect everyone. I think the only people affected by the war who were not mentioned were the conscientious objectors, but I'm not sure how you'd tactfully work that in.
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why does australia put so much focus on our soldiers specifically, and one battle specifically, from WW1 when most other countries, particularly European ones, commemorate the end of the war on Nov 11th and mourn all soldiers equally, not just their own?
The Gallipoli Campaign is important because we were important to it. Yeah, more of our soldiers died on the Western Front (roughly the same amount died or were wounded in the battle of the Somme than in the entire Gallipoli Campaign*), but they weren't really important to the batle. That is, they were just soldiers among the many other soldiers that were there. The Gallipoli Campaign, being scraped together from whatever loose ends the British could round up, featured colonial troops. They weren't the only troops, the British had their own soldiers there too who did a lot of the fighting. But if you're going to pick a Campaign where Australian or New Zealand troops were the most important then it'd be the Gallipoli Campaign.
*The Battle of the Somme: 23,000 Aus. 7,408 NZ.
The Gallipoli Campaign: 28,150 Aus. 7,473 NZ.
As for remembering soldiers, at most services I attend there is a focus on Australian, New Zealand and Turkish troops. If the British and the German troops etc are mentioned they're included in general references to the war as a whole.
Gallipoli was the point at which a lot of people realised, wait no, this is actually really fucked up.
It was the first time we essentially wandered out of our country and said, this is us, here we are and we disagree with what's happening.
Beyond that it's not just representative of world war I. Keep in mind it's called ANZAC day, not galipoli day. Remembrance day recognizes the end of world war I. And it's subsequently import because of that. ANZAC day represents all the men and women who have served not just in world war one, but in all subsequent conflicts and peace keeping missions.
You should go to a service. They put this into words far more eloquently than I do.
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RIP dudes.
Or should that be au revoir.
In the land of the blind the one eyed man is a heretic.
Isn't it basically a hurricane over there at the moment?
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It's a tumblr featuring maps that have not included New Zealand.
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Also now I can't unhear "RIKT"
http://www.techly.com.au/2015/04/22/anzac-legend-always-branding/
..... and these posters really do deserve a place of their own.
http://www.aktifmag.com/anzac-propaganda-posters-if-they-really-knew-what-they-were-fighting-for/
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Says a lot about the character of those young men that in the face of that, they chose to find ways to sneak into the service of their home country rather than flip the bird and carry on living their normal lives
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I don't disagree with it, but putting it out there just gives the day a negative aspect to it.
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Yes me too!
I've never really seen ANZAC day celebrated as a positive thing anyway, besides of course the bogans that get hellaciously drunk and slur-scream "I was only 19" and "Khe Sanh" on repeat for hours.
The reason I'm posting in here is they're for the ANZ Battle.net account region ...
So much guys.
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How long did you serve in the military for again?
Today of all days i should get to make one damn post and not have to take shit for it. Thanks for making my day to.
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