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Twilight Imperium Game 10 - Game Over!

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  • DaemonisDaemonis Registered User regular
    jakobagger wrote: »
    Do you want to pay that Daemonis? Then we both earn 1 TG next turn, but after that you earn double what I do. Seems the most fair?
    Yeah, I'll pay.

  • El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    Lykouragh wrote: »
    We'll give our 2 for your 1 if you'll approve our 2 for Letnev 2

    I believe Letnev has only 2 1 value contracts to give. I'll approve your 2 for their 1 if you like to seal our deal

  • El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    Approve the following trades:

    Jolnar 3 for Nekro 2
    Yssaril 2 for Letnev 1 (assuming previous post was a transfer of 1 TG to us)

    Provisionally approve
    Sol 2 for Nekro 1
    Sol 2 for Letnev 1, assuming Sol is still okay with that.

  • LykouraghLykouragh Registered User regular
    Sol is still ok with that

  • El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    Anyone else for bribery negotiations before I shut them down?

  • DaemonisDaemonis Registered User regular
    Lykouragh wrote: »
    Sol is still ok with that
    Deal

  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    The Naalu proposes 1:1 with Letnev, no bribe

  • XeadinMCXeadinMC Reasonable Equestrian Lake Forest Park, WARegistered User regular
    "As a proposal, we wish to come to terms with the Naalu representatives by bearing the benefits of technology."

    Proposing a trade agreement [1], plus 1 Trade Good, for the Naalu's contract [2].

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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    We would accept that

  • El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    edited April 2015
    XeadinMC wrote: »
    "As a proposal, we wish to come to terms with the Naalu representatives by bearing the benefits of technology."

    Proposing a trade agreement [1], plus 1 Trade Good, for the Naalu's contract [2].

    Approved with the transfer of this TG

    El Skid on
  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Wait, do you want a TG in addition to the most valuable trade from Jol'Nar? We had assumed we would get this TG since it is an unbalanced trade

  • El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    Oh, I guess that requires clarification. Jol Nar, were you giving Naalu the TG or was it a bribe to us?

  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Such a greedy virus. Not paying for tech and being able to pump out only 4 dreadnaughts next turn isn't enough?

  • El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    edited April 2015
    Phyphor wrote: »
    Such a greedy virus. Not paying for tech and being able to pump out only 4 dreadnaughts next turn isn't enough?

    Uhhh I have someone with a larger starting fleet in range of my homeworld this turn. I definitely need the resources.

    El Skid on
  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    edited April 2015
    True, but I would be a bit surprised to see a turn 1 invasion from him - a cruiser, carrier (I'll assume he will colonize with the other one) and a pair of fighters isn't much of an invasion force, especially compared to a carrier, a pair of hylar cruisers, and if he loses you get XRD. If anything, I would expect him to go after Sol over you - destroyer and carrier x2 is much weaker and a bigger expansion threat

    I suppose he does have the +1 so his force is strictly better than yours, but victory odds are much, much lower vs you than Sol

    Phyphor on
  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    edited April 2015
    Not to mention that if he goes after Sol he ends up with two red sectors blocking Jol'Nar off - minimum 2 moves to get into that area, effectively giving him the right half. If he goes after you he ends up right in my face

    Phyphor on
  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Basically, no sympathy for the lowest expenses race next to the highest production planets and with a 5 trade value

  • XeadinMCXeadinMC Reasonable Equestrian Lake Forest Park, WARegistered User regular
    That was meant to go from me to Naalu

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  • El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    edited April 2015
    :(

    I gave Sol the freebie so I'll give it to Jol-Nar too. Approved

    El Skid on
  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Much appreciated. I have a feeling that this time next round you'll be feeling much more confident about the board

  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    edited April 2015
    Looks like the current state of things is as so:

    Approved Trade Agreements
    Nekro [2] <--> Jol-Nar [3]
    Nekro [1] <--> Sol [2]
    Yssaril [2] <--> Letnev [1]
    Sol [2] <--> Letnev [1]
    Jol-Nar [1] <--> Naalu [2]

    Trade Good Transfers
    1 Trade Good from Letnev to Nekro
    1 Trade Good from Jol-Nar to Naalu

    Free Contracts
    Yssaril [1]
    Naalu [1]

    I suppose I'll need confirmation from Nekro (@El Skid), Yssaril (@jakobagger), and Naalu (@Phyphor) for wrapping up the action. Game state update will come after completion of the action.

    MrBlarney on
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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Look good to me

  • jakobaggerjakobagger LO THY DREAD EMPIRE CHAOS IS RESTORED Registered User regular
    I approve that trade.

    Also, unless anything crazy happens I'm pretty sure I'm not looking to start any wars, I just wanted to be able to colonize more than the one system.

  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    I was under the assumption that no trade agreement had been officially offered between Naalu and Yssaril, actually. Well, I'll want to hear El Skid's thoughts on this still before proceeding.

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  • jakobaggerjakobagger LO THY DREAD EMPIRE CHAOS IS RESTORED Registered User regular
    MrBlarney wrote: »
    I was under the assumption that no trade agreement had been officially offered between Naalu and Yssaril, actually. Well, I'll want to hear El Skid's thoughts on this still before proceeding.

    I don't think anyone is saying it has? I thought you just wanted us to give final confirmation of the trade deals you posted, ie. for me just the one with Letnev.

  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    jakobagger wrote: »
    MrBlarney wrote: »
    I was under the assumption that no trade agreement had been officially offered between Naalu and Yssaril, actually. Well, I'll want to hear El Skid's thoughts on this still before proceeding.
    I don't think anyone is saying it has? I thought you just wanted us to give final confirmation of the trade deals you posted, ie. for me just the one with Letnev.
    Okay, I see. I was thinking that was already approved from your posts with Daemonis and El Skid.

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  • jakobaggerjakobagger LO THY DREAD EMPIRE CHAOS IS RESTORED Registered User regular
    MrBlarney wrote: »
    jakobagger wrote: »
    MrBlarney wrote: »
    I was under the assumption that no trade agreement had been officially offered between Naalu and Yssaril, actually. Well, I'll want to hear El Skid's thoughts on this still before proceeding.
    I don't think anyone is saying it has? I thought you just wanted us to give final confirmation of the trade deals you posted, ie. for me just the one with Letnev.
    Okay, I see. I was thinking that was already approved from your posts with Daemonis and El Skid.

    I mean, so did I, until I read your request for further approval. So much confusion.

    Anyway though, would the Naalu like to trade 1 for 1? I'd like to, but I'm not really prepared to pay any bribes for it. Maybe the Nekro want to be generous though?

  • jakobaggerjakobagger LO THY DREAD EMPIRE CHAOS IS RESTORED Registered User regular
    err, @Phyphor ^

  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    Yeah, I was asking for final confirmation since you still had a free contract and an eligible trading partner. Sorry for the confusion.

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  • El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    If I were offered a TG now as bribe or offered for both parties to give me their first TG they receive from the agreement later, I would approve the apparently not proposed deal. If not, I'll close negotiations.

  • jakobaggerjakobagger LO THY DREAD EMPIRE CHAOS IS RESTORED Registered User regular
    El Skid wrote: »
    If I were offered a TG now as bribe or offered for both parties to give me their first TG they receive from the agreement later, I would approve the apparently not proposed deal. If not, I'll close negotiations.

    I at least don't want to pay for a 1 TG deal since that would mean I'd not make a profit until several turns later, where the situation might already have changed anyway.

  • El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
    edited April 2015
    jakobagger wrote: »
    El Skid wrote: »
    If I were offered a TG now as bribe or offered for both parties to give me their first TG they receive from the agreement later, I would approve the apparently not proposed deal. If not, I'll close negotiations.

    I at least don't want to pay for a 1 TG deal since that would mean I'd not make a profit until several turns later, where the situation might already have changed anyway.

    It's up to you- regardless you wouldn't make a profit until next turn (just because of how trade works), and in my second scenario you would transfer the next turn's profit to me, and then be able to take advantage of it the following and subsequent turns. This way the best case scenario is that you make this agreement next turn and see benefit from it the following turn, which is what I was offering anyway. Worst case is you have to pay a bribe to make it next turn, or you don't get the benefit at all.

    El Skid on
  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Nah, not worth it to see a benefit 4 turns down. By then I can get trade if I wanted it

  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    I think I'll make an executive decision here and close up the trade negotiations here, if only so I can post the game state update before I leave the house. I'll hold off if anyone wants me to, before I post the update in about 15 minutes or so.

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  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    Round 1: Action Phase Update 1

    The Nekro Virus: Select the (5) Trade II Strategy Card.
    The Yssaril Tribes: Select the (6) Warfare II* Strategy Card.
    Federation of Sol: Select the (7) Technology II Strategy Card.
    Universities of Jol-Nar: Select the (1) Leadership Strategy Card.
    The Barony of Letnev: Select the (2) Diplomacy II Strategy Card.
    The Naalu Collective: Select the (4) Production Strategy Card.

    Bonus counters are placed on the (3) Assembly and (8) Bureaucracy Strategy Cards.

    The Naalu Collective: Activate the Bereg-Lirta IV system. (CP 3 --> 2)
    Move in 1 Carrier, 4 Fighters, and 2 Ground Forces from the Naalu Home System.
    Land 1 Ground Force on each of Bereg and Lirta IV.
    Universities of Jol-Nar: Activate the Primor system. (CP 3 --> 2)
    Move in 1 Carrier, 1 Fighter, and 1 Ground Force from Nar.
    Land 1 Ground Force on Primor.
    The Barony of Letnev: Activate the Vega system. (CP 3 --> 2)
    Move in 1 Dreadnought, 1 Destroyer, 1 Carrier, and 2 Ground Forces from the Letnev Home System.
    Land 1 Ground Force on each of Vega Major and Vega Minor.
    The Nekro Virus: Play the primary ability of the (5) Trade II Strategy Card.
    Gain 3 Trade Goods and open up trade negotiations. (TG 2 --> 5)
    The following trade agreements are established:
    Nekro [1] <--> Sol [2]
    Nekro [2] <--> Jol-Nar [3]
    Yssaril [2] <--> Letnev [1]
    Sol [2] <--> Letnev [1]
    Jol-Nar [1] <--> Naalu [2]
    Letnev transfers 1 Trade Good to Nekro. (Letnev TG 2 --> 1; Nekro TG 5 --> 6)
    Jol-Nar transfers 1 Trade Good to Naalu. (Jol-Nar TG 2 --> 1; Naalu TG 2 --> 3)

    Current Map: Round 1, Action Phase Update 1

    Current Technologies

    Victory Points and Objectives
    The Yssaril Tribes: 0 VP
    The Barony of Letnev: 0 VP
    The Naalu Collective: 0 VP
    The Nekro Virus: 0 VP
    Federation of Sol: 0 VP
    Universities of Jol-Nar: 0 VP

    Public Objectives
    [1 VP] I took control of 3 planets this turn.
    5 Stage I Objectives and 5 Stage II Objectives remain in the deck.

    Secret Objectives
    The Yssaril Tribes: 2 Secret Objectives
    The Barony of Letnev: 2 Secret Objectives
    The Naalu Collective: 2 Secret Objectives
    The Nekro Virus: 2 Secret Objectives
    Federation of Sol: 2 Secret Objectives
    Universities of Jol-Nar: 2 Secret Objectives

    The Nekro Virus: El Skid
    Trade Goods: 6
    Action Cards: 0
    Political Cards: 2

    Strategy Allocation: 2
    Fleet Supply: 3
    Command Pool: 3

    Trade Contracts: Sol [2], Jol-Nar [3]
    Technology: Gen Synthesis, Dacaxive Animators, Hylar V Assault Laser

    Worlds:
    R - Mordai II (4R, 0I)
    The Yssaril Tribes: jakobagger
    Trade Goods: 2
    Action Cards: 0
    Political Cards: 2

    Strategy Allocation: 2
    Fleet Supply: 3
    Command Pool: 3

    Trade Contracts: Letnev [1], (Yssaril [1])
    Technology: Antimass Deflectors, XRD Transporters

    Worlds:
    R - Retillion (2R, 3I)
    R - Shalloq (1R, 2I)
    Federation of Sol: Lykouragh
    Trade Goods: 2
    Action Cards: 0
    Political Cards: 2

    Strategy Allocation: 2
    Fleet Supply: 3
    Command Pool: 3

    Trade Contracts: Nekro [1], Letnev [1]
    Technology: Antimass Deflectors, Cybernetics

    Worlds:
    R - Jord (4R, 2I)
    Universities of Jol-Nar: XeadinMC
    Trade Goods: 1
    Action Cards: 0
    Political Cards: 2

    Strategy Allocation: 2
    Fleet Supply: 3
    Command Pool: 2

    Trade Contracts: Nekro [2], Naalu [2]
    Technology: Hylar V Assault Laser, Antimass Deflectors, Enviro Compensator, Sarween Tools

    Worlds:
    R - Jol (1R, 2I)
    R - Nar (2R, 3I)
    X - Primor (2R, 1I, GF (x2))
    The Barony of Letnev: Daemonis
    Trade Goods: 1
    Action Cards: 0
    Political Cards: 2

    Strategy Allocation: 2
    Fleet Supply: 3
    Command Pool: 2

    Trade Contracts: Yssaril [2], Sol [2]
    Technology: Hylar V Assault Laser, Antimass Deflectors

    Worlds:
    R - Arc Prime (4R, 0I)
    R - Wren Terra (2R, 1I)
    X - Vega Major (2R, 1I)
    X - Vega Minor (1R, 2I, B)
    The Naalu Collective: Phyphor
    Trade Goods: 3
    Action Cards: 0
    Political Cards: 2

    Strategy Allocation: 2
    Fleet Supply: 3
    Command Pool: 2

    Trade Contracts: Jol-Nar [1], (Naalu [1])
    Technology: Antimass Deflectors, Enviro Compensator

    Worlds:
    R - Maaluuk (0R, 2I)
    R - Druaa (3R, 1I)
    X - Bereg (3R, 1I, R)
    X - Lirta IV (2R, 3I, G)

    Neutral Worlds
    N - Mecatol Rex (1R, 6I)
    N - Abyz (3R, 0I)
    N - Arnor (2R, 1I)
    N - Bellatrix (0R, 1I, R)
    N - Coorneeq (1R, 2I, R)
    N - El'nath (2R, 0I, B)
    N - Faunus (1R, 3I, G (x2))
    N - Fria (2R, 0I, B)
    N - Lazar (1R, 0I)
    N - Lisis (2R, 2I)
    N - Lodor (3R, 1I, G)
    N - Lor (1R, 2I, R)
    N - Mallice (0R, 3I)
    N - Perimiter (2R, 2I)
    N - Quann (2R, 1I, G)
    N - Resculon (2R, 0I)
    N - Sakulag (2R, 1I)
    N - Saudor (2R, 2I)
    N - Sem-Lore (3R, 2I, Y)
    N - Tar'mann (1R, 1I)
    N - Tequ'ran (2R, 0I, R)
    N - Torkan (0R, 3I, B)
    N - Tsion (2R, 2I, TG (x2))
    N - Velnor (2R, 0I, R)
    N - Wellon (1R, 2I)

    Order of Play
    The Naalu Collective (0) Production
    Universities of Jol-Nar (1) Leadership
    The Barony of Letnev (2) Diplomacy II
    The Nekro Virus (5) Trade II
    The Yssaril Tribes (6) Warfare II* Current Player
    Federation of Sol (7) Technology II

    @jakobagger to act next.

    MrBlarney on
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  • jakobaggerjakobagger LO THY DREAD EMPIRE CHAOS IS RESTORED Registered User regular
    I will skip this turn.

  • El SkidEl Skid The frozen white northRegistered User regular
  • LykouraghLykouragh Registered User regular
    Gollum turn-skipping devils!

    Activate Coorneeq/Resculon, load up a carrier in home system with 2 GF, move into Coorneeq/Resculon, drop 1 GF on each planet.

    S/F/C: 2/3/2
    T/A/P: 2/0/2

    @Phyphor

  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Production ability. Produce 1 carrier (3), 4 fighters (2). Exhaust Druaa to pay

    @Lykouragh
    @El Skid
    @jakobagger
    @Daemonis
    @XeadinMC

  • LykouraghLykouragh Registered User regular
    Play the secondary, paying 1 Strat counter. Exhaust Jord (4) to build 1 cruiser and 2 fighters.

    S/F/C: 1/3/2
    T/A/P: 2/0/2

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