The one time where I've reported someone, I couldn't point to a post or three and say "they are breaking rule X", but they were generally making the thread an unpleasant place. I was really apologetic in my report, but explained the situation, and the mods took care of it. They definitely are there to make the place conducive to good discussion.
The biggest takeaway I have from all the discussion about reporting is when the mods say that multiple people reporting the same post doesn't clog things up. I will be more active about reporting obviously bad posts instead of thinking "surely someone else has done that."
E: I just remembered, I didn't even actually hit the report button, I just PMed a mod about it. I'll use report next time!
I don't want to report anyone, because I'd rather people were just pleasant to each other
Reporting posts kind of always suggested to me that someone needed a telling off and that felt, like, people weren't being nice to each other and I don't want to have that view of the forums? I guess?
from my perspective it doesn't really matter what you call it. it gets a mod's eyes on it and one possible outcome is an infraction
and I sort of feel like if I want to interject my feelings on what a mod should do about it, the reason field is already sufficient
really wish the the infraction banner on posts still showed up though, but that's been talked about multiple times in this thread, and how we'd all like that back, so I guess there's nothing more to say about that
I've already had a meeting with Vanilla about it. I'm going to keep bugging the relevant people.
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I don't want to report anyone, because I'd rather people were just pleasant to each other
Reporting posts kind of always suggested to me that someone needed a telling off and that felt, like, people weren't being nice to each other and I don't want to have that view of the forums? I guess?
Yeah
Similarly, it is hard to get over the feeling that I'm somehow being a jerk for using the button to begin with. That might be a problem specific to me, though.
I don't want to report anyone, because I'd rather people were just pleasant to each other
Reporting posts kind of always suggested to me that someone needed a telling off and that felt, like, people weren't being nice to each other and I don't want to have that view of the forums? I guess?
Yeah
Similarly, it is hard to get over the feeling that I'm somehow being a jerk for using the button to begin with. That might be a problem specific to me, though.
Not me. If someone is breaking rules or being a toxic shitlord in a thread then I either want their behavior corrected or for them to stop posting in that thread. Reporting isn't tattling as much as it is doing the right thing to try and make this place better.
That being said I know I'm a victim of the bystander effect and I don't report things as often as I ought to and I'm going to work on that in the future.
When are you guys gonna do something like this again
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Is there anyone you wished you didn't have to ban?
Oh sure, yeah. People who start out good and turn into Clarksons, good community members who get disenchanted and decide to go for suicide by mod. It's more common to not want to ban someone than to be super satisfied at getting to. Banning is a failure state.
Anyone have any shit they need to get off their chest at the last minute? Real, actual stuff that isn't what my favourite colour frog is or whatever.
Do you ever think that the tone you take when dealing with people who are being hostile makes things worse or have you generally found it to be the best way to deal with things of that nature
Anyone have any shit they need to get off their chest at the last minute? Real, actual stuff that isn't what my favourite colour frog is or whatever.
Do you ever think that the tone you take when dealing with people who are being hostile makes things worse or have you generally found it to be the best way to deal with things of that nature
I make tonal mistakes. Generally when it's with people who are being hostile, I don't give a shit. They shouldn't be hostile. I'm not going to put on a happy community manager face and hope they agree to start being nice.
The time I regret my tone is when I accidentally alienate people that I don't intend to, or cause a situation to escalate that otherwise wouldn't have done.
Anyone have any shit they need to get off their chest at the last minute? Real, actual stuff that isn't what my favourite colour frog is or whatever.
I would like to see Asokolov unbanned and allowed a name change.
She was always very polite and brought a lot of unique perspectives to D&D, in spite of a lot of vitriol that she often received from people who disagreed with her viewpoints.
It seems like she was banned in part over a misunderstanding.
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This seems to manifest in two different but related ways: we had people talk about not wanting to narc or tattle (because it's the Get Someone in Trouble Button, and I don't want to get that person in trouble - I like them!) *snip*
This feels somehow like bartending to me at a place with bouncers: it's not my job to control people's behavior, even if I do like them and they are one of my regular patrons.
It kinda fits with my previous life experiences, so thank you for this.
Anyone have any shit they need to get off their chest at the last minute? Real, actual stuff that isn't what my favourite colour frog is or whatever.
I would like to see Asokolov unbanned and allowed a name change.
She was always very polite and brought a lot of unique perspectives to D&D, in spite of a lot of vitriol that she often received from people who disagreed with her viewpoints.
It seems like she was banned in part over a misunderstanding.
I can't go into detail, but there is no way she's being unbanned. It wasn't a misunderstanding, it was a ton of really awful shit that I'm not really at liberty to talk about.
As we get older in forum age, the tone has changed a lot. I love that. I think all the mods have done a fantastic job making a community that is all in all pretty cohesive and incredibly more inclusive than ten years ago.
How do you deal with constant walking of that line? And more importantly, I think we don't report it because it is never over the line behavior, but like, if you added it up for a long time, it would be completely over the line.
Do we report stuff like that? Do we just ignore it?
Anyone have any shit they need to get off their chest at the last minute? Real, actual stuff that isn't what my favourite colour frog is or whatever.
I would like to see Asokolov unbanned and allowed a name change.
She was always very polite and brought a lot of unique perspectives to D&D, in spite of a lot of vitriol that she often received from people who disagreed with her viewpoints.
It seems like she was banned in part over a misunderstanding.
I can't go into detail, but there is no way she's being unbanned. It wasn't a misunderstanding, it was a ton of really awful shit that I'm not really at liberty to talk about.
Fair enough. Thanks for the response.
I made a game! Hotline Maui. Requires mouse and keyboard.
How do you deal with constant walking of that line? And more importantly, I think we don't report it because it is never over the line behavior, but like, if you added it up for a long time, it would be completely over the line. Do we report stuff like that? Do we just ignore it?
Err on the side of reporting. We can always PM you if you're reporting a bunch of unnecessary stuff.
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I visit threads I'm interested in and threads that sounds like they could end up with problems. I tend to have at least a passing interest in most threads that come through though.
And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
Do mods for each specific forum have assigned threads that they wouldn't normally be interested in but browse anyway to keep up with things? Or do they pretty much just visit threads they don't care about when things get reported?
Probably differs for various mods. I just read whatever looks interesting.
I will admit, I'm sometimes loathe to press the report button because even if there are geese about, I enjoy the not-geese talk and don't want the whole thread locked because of their behavior.
I am paranoid about requesting mod attention in the webcomics thread for this reason.
When making decisions on who is a mod, are any considerations given for representation of certain under - represented groups of people, in order to provide a more diverse leadership group?
If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
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The biggest takeaway I have from all the discussion about reporting is when the mods say that multiple people reporting the same post doesn't clog things up. I will be more active about reporting obviously bad posts instead of thinking "surely someone else has done that."
E: I just remembered, I didn't even actually hit the report button, I just PMed a mod about it. I'll use report next time!
I don't like reporting posts
I don't want to report anyone, because I'd rather people were just pleasant to each other
Reporting posts kind of always suggested to me that someone needed a telling off and that felt, like, people weren't being nice to each other and I don't want to have that view of the forums? I guess?
I've already had a meeting with Vanilla about it. I'm going to keep bugging the relevant people.
Yeah
Similarly, it is hard to get over the feeling that I'm somehow being a jerk for using the button to begin with. That might be a problem specific to me, though.
When I report I usually put like "I think this rule is being broken, thanks for taking a look"
Its just there to get eyes on something that's all
If they don't deserve an infraction they wont get one
Not me. If someone is breaking rules or being a toxic shitlord in a thread then I either want their behavior corrected or for them to stop posting in that thread. Reporting isn't tattling as much as it is doing the right thing to try and make this place better.
That being said I know I'm a victim of the bystander effect and I don't report things as often as I ought to and I'm going to work on that in the future.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Oh sure, yeah. People who start out good and turn into Clarksons, good community members who get disenchanted and decide to go for suicide by mod. It's more common to not want to ban someone than to be super satisfied at getting to. Banning is a failure state.
Do you ever think that the tone you take when dealing with people who are being hostile makes things worse or have you generally found it to be the best way to deal with things of that nature
I make tonal mistakes. Generally when it's with people who are being hostile, I don't give a shit. They shouldn't be hostile. I'm not going to put on a happy community manager face and hope they agree to start being nice.
The time I regret my tone is when I accidentally alienate people that I don't intend to, or cause a situation to escalate that otherwise wouldn't have done.
For sure. Could even be soon. It's a lot of work though, and we need time for more questions to generate.
I would like to see Asokolov unbanned and allowed a name change.
She was always very polite and brought a lot of unique perspectives to D&D, in spite of a lot of vitriol that she often received from people who disagreed with her viewpoints.
It seems like she was banned in part over a misunderstanding.
This feels somehow like bartending to me at a place with bouncers: it's not my job to control people's behavior, even if I do like them and they are one of my regular patrons.
It kinda fits with my previous life experiences, so thank you for this.
I can't go into detail, but there is no way she's being unbanned. It wasn't a misunderstanding, it was a ton of really awful shit that I'm not really at liberty to talk about.
How do you deal with constant walking of that line? And more importantly, I think we don't report it because it is never over the line behavior, but like, if you added it up for a long time, it would be completely over the line.
Do we report stuff like that? Do we just ignore it?
Fair enough. Thanks for the response.
its pretty easy to not get banned
Err on the side of reporting. We can always PM you if you're reporting a bunch of unnecessary stuff.
Also honestly, like we're going to listen. "Oh shit that one guy changed his sig, I better get on this".
Probably differs for various mods. I just read whatever looks interesting.
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Pretty sure he turned it over to the freemasons, but you didn't hear it from me.
I am paranoid about requesting mod attention in the webcomics thread for this reason.
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edit: and he must have been promptly banned, now it says I have a message in the inbox, but said message is MIA
but they're listening to every word I say
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