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Barry Bonds vs. Howard Krongard: And the Winner Is…
shadow7
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...the winner, hands down, is Howard, J, Korngard, - a name barely known to most Americans, and someone who remains barely known, thanks to the corporate US media. Here’s the competition:
A top story this week in the news: Barry Bonds was indicted on charges of four counts of perjury and one count of obstruction of justice. Bonds stands accused of lying under oath to a grand jury about his use of steroids. If he is found guilty on all counts, Bonds faces up to fifteen years in prison.
Barry Bonds is obviously a menace to us all. He apparently poses a great threat to all our lives and to the safety of the nation. Let us all hope that justice is done and the full force of the law is brought down on this dangerous criminal.
Non story this week in the news: Howard J. Korngard, US State Department Inspector General lied under oath to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform It seems that federal prosecutors have been looking into allegations of waste, fraud, and abuse in Iraq by Blackwater, USA. And, surprise, surprise, Korngard was on the carpet for interfering with the investigation.
FULL STORY: http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=670
A top story this week in the news: Barry Bonds was indicted on charges of four counts of perjury and one count of obstruction of justice. Bonds stands accused of lying under oath to a grand jury about his use of steroids. If he is found guilty on all counts, Bonds faces up to fifteen years in prison.
Barry Bonds is obviously a menace to us all. He apparently poses a great threat to all our lives and to the safety of the nation. Let us all hope that justice is done and the full force of the law is brought down on this dangerous criminal.
Non story this week in the news: Howard J. Korngard, US State Department Inspector General lied under oath to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform It seems that federal prosecutors have been looking into allegations of waste, fraud, and abuse in Iraq by Blackwater, USA. And, surprise, surprise, Korngard was on the carpet for interfering with the investigation.
FULL STORY: http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=670
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Not that I'm denying that it's important, it's that I doubt it's some corporate media conspiracy to protect government officials.
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It's not lying, it's lying under oath that is the problem.
Yes, because once you lie after swearing oath on the Bible, it becomes infinitely worse!
- John Stuart Mill
Also, Barry Bonds can burn in hell along with every other fucking pro baseball player on steroids (that is, 95% of them). Damn him.
And I am astonished that this apparently needs to be explained to some of you. What the?
also, yeah what's with not getting lying under oath? that's a crime, and it should be. my only problem ultimately (much like with Clinton and the blow job) is I don't think he ever should have been giving testimony on steroids, but that's a different story and doesn't change the fact that he lied when he got there, which is a punishable offense.
I understand that. It's just the whole Bible thing that gets to me.
Barry Bonds is a complete jackass and a hack, but 15 years for lying about steroids and stupid-ass baseball is ri-goddamned-diculous.
Then I remember I'm in America.
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It's voluntary, traditional (going back to George Washington's oath of office) and there are many religious people in the country. So...yeah.
It's 30.
The Bible isn't the important part about it.
- John Stuart Mill
I'm also relatively certain you can also choose the book you swear upon. I remember a case where a Muslim swore upon the Koran instead of the Bible. But I could be wrong.
It's got nothing to do with the bible, shit-for-brains, it's got to do with the fundamental basis of the legal system in the civilised world.
As others have stated: you do not have to swear on the bible, in court or otherwise (e.g. for office).
Here's one link (albeit anecdotal): http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=503591
There are hundreds more.
Cat, you probably shouldn't read /. ever. That sort of thinking is endemic there.
Baseball wasn't killed. No one has ever killed it. Along with just about every other major sport, it's had hiccups. All this gloom and doom talk about steroids and baseball is fucking annoying. Some guys juiced, it sucked, and we're still here today. Games still go on (well, not at this moment in time) and we're still going to have a Series next year.
Fuck.
He was charged with perjury. He pled to contempt and paid $100,000 after the prosecution lost its primary witness.
- John Stuart Mill
Boringness killed baseball.
Hey. Fuck, yourself. Of course it is still played today. And it's not just some guys. A boat load of guys juiced. They gave the home run record to a guy that juiced. I said it's been killed, for me, because it's no longer about who is the better player, it's about who managed to unnaturally augment their bodies the most.
So yeah, that killed it for me. I never said it was no longer played. I said that what has become of the sport has made a childhood hobby unpalatable for me.
So again. Fuck, yourself.
I'm sorry, but no one is ever going to forget the controversy surrounding Barry Bonds. If his record stands for 50 years, people won't forget. Especially now that he was actually indicted. Look at what Marc Ecko did with the ball. Honestly I can see Cooperstown displaying the ball so you can't see the brand, but still -- it's there. That's fact. Did Bud Selig sit on his high tower and is he doing a horrible job at the helm? Sure, but other sports have survived this kind of crapfest.
The majority of players (I dare say vast majority) didn't juice. Athletes look for an edge, and technology provided them with a way. Technology also provided a way to stop them if we so desired. Look at the guys getting busted for the substance abuse policy right now. Who cares? They're mostly C-grade players that don't have the physical ability or talent to play with the big guns. Guy on the Tigers got bit this year and he probably won't play again because of it.
Current mass steroid use ("juicing") just isn't there. There was a shit time in the late 90s with McGwire, Giambi and the lot where it was much more prevalent than today.
Don't let the bitter taste of the 1990s ruin the game forever. Turn on a game next season with your favorite team and try to enjoy it again.
Because if he isn't juicin' he's a top athelete, what the sport needs.
The strike killed baseball.
Griffey was going to break Maris' record, and do it clean.
Tony Gwynn was going to hit .400.
Then everyone decided they needed more money, and quit.
Then Labor Day came and the NFL saved America, with SI trumpeting "Football: The Real American Pastime" on the cover. The viewing public embraced football and never looked back. Moments of interest like the McGwire-Sosa HR chase or the Red Sox breaking the curse were little more than isolated beeps after jolting a corpse with a defibrillator.
Nowadays not only can baseball playoffs not get on network TV, they can't even get on the best Ted Turner-owned cable channel. The NFL has its own channel.
Everyone and their grandma has a fantasy football team. Who still pays attention to rotisserie baseball?
Yeah, there'll be a Series next year. Will anyone be watching?
Heck, on the night the Sox won the title they would've been relegated to Page 2 of the Boston Globe if a story had come out of Foxboro saying "Tom Brady aggravates hangnail in practice, listed as 'Questionable' on injury report."
I, along with millions, pay attention to "rotisserie baseball". I'm glad to hear Sports Illustrated's irrelevant magazine proclaimed baseball America's pastime so many years ago. I hardly think the Boston Globe would blow the Sox winning for a freaking injury update on Tom Brady.
Nothing killed/maimed/destoyed/whatever baseball. It's still popular along with football, baseball and basketball.
Griffey wasn't injury-prone before the strike. The reason I mentioned he and Gwynn, and Matt Williams were in the middle of historic seasons when the strike was called. It was like calling a rain-out in the 7th inning of a perfect game. They cancelled the World Series - the first time since 1904. They didn't cancel the World Series to fight World War I, they didn't cancel it during the Depression, they didn't cancel it to fight World War II. But they cancelled it in 1994.
Call SI irrelevant if you want, but it's the most widely circulated sports publication in the US today, just as it was in 1994. You might as well call the Wii the most "irrelevant" console in gaming.
Fantasy baseball was the grandaddy, and has a number of built-in advantages. Baseball is incredibly stat-driven, in everything from its fan-encouraged scorekeeping to the hallowing of numbers - 56, .424, 511, etc. It's practically made for fantasy.
But football is king now. In 2004, fantasy football was a $100 million industry, and it's since grown by a ton. In comparison, fantasy baseball was a $20 million industry in '04.
http://www.forbes.com/2005/03/14/cx_pk_0314mondaymatchup.html
And as if to prove how little they get it, Major League Baseball tried to shut down tons of fantasy leagues by arguing that players' stats were copyrighted material owned by MLB. Really, how dumb can a league get? What other imaginative ways can baseball find to drive away fans? It's less watched than football, and less played than futbol. What's next, the All-Star game ending in a tie?
I'm late , but this is an awesome post.