Yeah I've put in over 100hours at the very minimum and feel like I enjoyed every second of it. That said, I got the platinum and I'm putting it on the back burner for now.
I'm doing the journey to the center of the universe as something to do with my hands/eyes while watching podcasts (I have difficulty listening to them and not doing anything else.) I know what's at the end, I just want to say I've done it.
It's so time consuming that it wraps around from boring, to annoying, to frustrating, to hilarious, all the back away around to frustrating.
Like, beyond the bad marketing for this game, I'm honestly wondering if Hello Games just added it in as a way to dunk on everyone who kept bugging them about an explicit goal in the game. I haven't felt like this since the Witness.
While I was able to previously play for an hour or so before memory leaks caused massive frame drops, now I can't play more than 10-15 minutes at a time before this happens. I wonder if it's something to do with the planets being extreme somehow and having lots of particles going on(one with extreme acid rain storms, the other with windstorms) but until I find a planet that doesn't have this kind of shit going down I won't know for sure.
EDIT: Nope, on a moon that doesn't have any crazy atmosphere animations going on and I'm still not able to play more than a few minutes before it becomes a slideshow. I haven't tinkered with my settings or anything at all, why the fuck is this happening.
Getting this issue now as well. Was able to play for an hour or more before the memory leak caught up with me but ever since landing on a low fauna planet with monsoon weather the frames are dropping like crazy, have been on planets with forests w/Big Things and a storm with no problem so I don't know wtf is up with this now.
On the plus side, found a planet with a ton of vortex cubes so that was fun, if I can get this slideshow issue fixed I'm gonna fly back there.
Anyone else use LowFlight mod? This never gets old:
But for some reason the main no man's sky mod site is now flagged by chrome and blocked as having malware and when I do open it in another browser the formatting is all messed up.
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MichaelLCIn what furnace was thy brain?ChicagoRegistered Userregular
edited September 2016
I'm using Low Flight with 2x speed.
I tried the hover version, but could never get my ship to land.
Interesting about the mods site. Guess HelloGames hired a QA tester and a black hat.
Yea I put in the 2x speed with hover but landing has been a lot harder, maybe I'll try the other version.
Got Chrome to load the site properly but it still spazzes going to mods claiming there's malware on the site, can continue to the site but kind of weird.
Got off spazzy planet, went to its moon which is a freaking rainforest made more epic by Big Things and not nearly as much stutter. Although the bad thing about Big Things is landing in a tree that you didn't realize was too high to reach until after you took over the crashed ship to loot it. Luckily a jetpack upgrade solved the problem.
Trying to find the last species on some of these planets is the worst thing I'll do this decade
Edit: And then one planet this evening literally allowed me to turn in a circle after landing and hit all 8 species
Edit2: I spent 2+ hours trying to find the last species on a planet (at the tail end of which I wrote the above post) before going to bed in anger at 1:00 am. Woke up this morning before work, fired up the PS4, and the last species was literally 90 degrees and 100 feet away, just chilling. So I have only one planet left to catalog, 9 more warps (and I have the cells for it), and 4 or so ships to destroy, and I'll have my Plat.
Then I think it's on to Lovers in a Dangerous Spacetime with the wife. NMS was a solid but solitary experience, and I need a little co-op comfort food.
Looking at Steam forums, the framerate issue unfortunately seems like a Window 10 + nVidia card issue caused by the latest patch.
Missed this, so either I live with the stuttering or try and see if there's some way to downgrade the game and never be able to scan a god damn bird why won't you scan just scan please! For the love of God scaaaaaan.
If I want to do any of the 100% creature stuff I'm definitely going to have to disable mods as I can't find shit in these woods. They're all there taunting me, but I can't see them.
There was a 75mb download on steam today. I swear the running speed is faster than before. Hope I'm not just imagining things.
Check your settings. The patch set a bunch of my settings to low. I'm still getting the stuttering after ~10 minutes with my settings back to the way they used to be.
I mean, maybe I could play for a lot longer with my settings lowered... but why should I compromise my experience with the game, when it had been working fine(ish) for me before?
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edited September 2016
So according to the steamdb page for the game, the public branch hasn't been updated since the last patch notes log entry thing went up (two weeks ago, and it should contain the easier flying scan tweak).
You could maybe try... unsubscribing? from the experimental branch or whatever it is one does and see if that fixes your issues (tho if it is an NVidia + Windows problem it probably won't).
I've been subscribed to the experimental branch. I unsubbed and then resubbed. The reason I posted the update was because of the patch today. Just informing that the Win 10 + nVidia issue has not been addressed.
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Oh yeah I meant unsubscribing from it to hopefully roll back to the public branch, since if the stuttering started within the last two weeks AND it was due solely to an update to NMS, rolling back to the public branch should get rid of it.
But I dunno how this stuff works in Steam exactly.
The problem being is I'm pretty sure (since Optimus mentioned it earlier got me thinking) that this really became an issue when I finally updated to 1.07 so I don't know if rolling back is even possible, if it is are saves compatible and then scanning birds becomes next to impossible without mining them. It's the one thing I do miss about physical media, used to be able to just uninstall, reinstall from the disc and just selectively update from the patches you got off the company's support site (assuming the patches didn't break your save games for earlier versions Fallout 2 cough)
On the plus side, I still haven't grown tired of the views, made all the better by all the damn barren planets I had been on:
Double post but my stuttering turned out to be caused by TemplarGFX's wild life 2.6 mod. Was only on certain planets so removed that mod and reloaded, stutter gone (and undiscovered creatures down to 1 of 10 instead of 1 of 33)
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They, uh, "fixed" the resource stacking "exploit" that let you stack items when you salvaged them from stuff. That's... not a good change at all.
Apparently planets with 15 (or more?) species couldn't hit 100% complete, I think I hit that once or twice. Now fixed.
More options menu stuff.
Aaaaand a bunch of various performance tweaks and whatnot.
That stacking "fix" really bugs me.
Are you on PC? Fuck inventory management is a great mod, allows stacking. I kept it at the default that doesn't change suit inventory, changes ship inventory to 1000, changes non stackable items to 10 in the suit and 40 or something on the ship.
If you think anything is too cheaty it's a simple adjustment in an ini file.
They've been totally radio silent since around release, haven't they? I wonder if they'll respond to that publicly or if they'll get any sort of reprimand. Is the ASA a big deal organization in Europe? How much power do they have for this sort of thing?
They've been totally radio silent since around release, haven't they? I wonder if they'll respond to that publicly or if they'll get any sort of reprimand. Is the ASA a big deal organization in Europe? How much power do they have for this sort of thing?
I am not sure myself, but if it causes some shit to go down then I hope it prevents the next studio from over promising and under delivering.
I generally find those kinds of things to be distasteful - i.e. "the Vita doesn't really provide console-quality graphics on the go, this was false advertising, give us $$$" - but it's hard to argue that there hasn't been false advertising here, especially if they're still representing that old concept footage is representative of the actual game (on Steam, for example).
What bothers me the most is that HG has been silent since release, other than patch changelogs. Why? What possible explanation can there be for this, other than "talking to you people is what got us in trouble in the first place"? When even Shuhei Yoshida is calling you out in interviews, you have a problem. I don't see how their next project is met with anything other than a ton of skepticism. Unless they go back to projects that are more Joe Danger-esque in scope. (H*R reference unintentional.)
Does it matter for their business, at the end of the day? It matters if they want to make more games in the future. They're certainly sitting pretty right now, financially; that's probably a large part of why they've stayed silent. They made their money and they're just working on improvements. But that's no excuse.
They've been totally radio silent since around release, haven't they? I wonder if they'll respond to that publicly or if they'll get any sort of reprimand. Is the ASA a big deal organization in Europe? How much power do they have for this sort of thing?
I am not sure myself, but if it causes some shit to go down then I hope it prevents the next studio from over promising and under delivering.
this may be a dumb question from someone who hasn't played the game, but what did they not deliver on?
Aren't there a gajillion worlds to explore and wouldn't it take you forever to reach the center of the universe if you didn't use warps or what not?
According to the RPS article this is the ASA's list of items misrepresented in the advertising.
Videos:
User interface design
Ship flying behaviour (in formation; with a ‘wingman’; flying close to the ground)
Behaviour of animals (in herds; destroying scenery; in water; reacting to surroundings)
Large-scale space combat
Structures and buildings as pictured
Flowing water
Speed of galaxy warp/loading time
Aiming systems
Screenshots:
Size of creatures
Behaviour of ships and sentinels
Structures and buildings as pictured
Store Page in general:
Quality of graphics
References to: lack of loading screens, trade convoys between stars, factions vying over territory
They've been totally radio silent since around release, haven't they? I wonder if they'll respond to that publicly or if they'll get any sort of reprimand. Is the ASA a big deal organization in Europe? How much power do they have for this sort of thing?
I am not sure myself, but if it causes some shit to go down then I hope it prevents the next studio from over promising and under delivering.
this may be a dumb question from someone who hasn't played the game, but what did they not deliver on?
Aren't there a gajillion worlds to explore and wouldn't it take you forever to reach the center of the universe if you didn't use warps or what not?
I believe the trailers are still up on Steam if you'd like to check them out.
But the reddit post has all of them listed, and they are:
Videos:
User interface design
Ship flying behaviour (in formation; with a ‘wingman’; flying close to the ground)
Behaviour of animals (in herds; destroying scenery; in water; reacting to surroundings)
Large-scale space combat
Structures and buildings as pictured
Flowing water
Speed of galaxy warp/loading time
Aiming systems
Screenshots:
Size of creatures (9)
Behaviour of ships and sentinels (4, 5 and 8)
Structures and buildings as pictured (3)
Store Page in general:
Quality of graphics
References to: lack of loading screens, trade convoys between stars, factions vying over territory
They've been totally radio silent since around release, haven't they? I wonder if they'll respond to that publicly or if they'll get any sort of reprimand. Is the ASA a big deal organization in Europe? How much power do they have for this sort of thing?
I am not sure myself, but if it causes some shit to go down then I hope it prevents the next studio from over promising and under delivering.
this may be a dumb question from someone who hasn't played the game, but what did they not deliver on?
Aren't there a gajillion worlds to explore and wouldn't it take you forever to reach the center of the universe if you didn't use warps or what not?
I believe the trailers are still up on Steam if you'd like to check them out.
But the reddit post has all of them listed, and they are:
Videos:
User interface design
Ship flying behaviour (in formation; with a ‘wingman’; flying close to the ground)
Behaviour of animals (in herds; destroying scenery; in water; reacting to surroundings)
Large-scale space combat
Structures and buildings as pictured
Flowing water
Speed of galaxy warp/loading time
Aiming systems
Screenshots:
Size of creatures (9)
Behaviour of ships and sentinels (4, 5 and 8)
Structures and buildings as pictured (3)
Store Page in general:
Quality of graphics
References to: lack of loading screens, trade convoys between stars, factions vying over territory
Well I mean it is a 3 year old demo, just unlike most smart companies, they didn't bury it and instead decided to use it as the first video that plays on the steam store even though the final product bares little resemblance.
I can't imagine what the PS4 folks must be feeling, I'm still enjoying it but I've also got mods coming out the ass added to the thing.
Well I mean it is a 3 year old demo, just unlike most smart companies, they didn't bury it and instead decided to use it as the first video that plays on the steam store even though the final product bares little resemblance.
I can't imagine what the PS4 folks must be feeling, I'm still enjoying it but I've also got mods coming out the ass added to the thing.
It sucks and I regret buying it on the PS4.
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Well I mean it is a 3 year old demo, just unlike most smart companies, they didn't bury it and instead decided to use it as the first video that plays on the steam store even though the final product bares little resemblance.
I can't imagine what the PS4 folks must be feeling, I'm still enjoying it but I've also got mods coming out the ass added to the thing.
It sucks and I regret buying it on the PS4.
Well at least you can tinker with mods in Fallout 4.
Well I mean it is a 3 year old demo, just unlike most smart companies, they didn't bury it and instead decided to use it as the first video that plays on the steam store even though the final product bares little resemblance.
I can't imagine what the PS4 folks must be feeling, I'm still enjoying it but I've also got mods coming out the ass added to the thing.
It sucks and I regret buying it on the PS4.
Well at least you can tinker with mods in Fallout 4.
Which I own on PC. :P
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Well I mean it is a 3 year old demo, just unlike most smart companies, they didn't bury it and instead decided to use it as the first video that plays on the steam store even though the final product bares little resemblance.
I can't imagine what the PS4 folks must be feeling, I'm still enjoying it but I've also got mods coming out the ass added to the thing.
It sucks and I regret buying it on the PS4.
Well at least you can tinker with mods in Fallout 4.
Which I own on PC. :P
Also mods were blocked by SONY, so thanks for ruining my troll,
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It's so time consuming that it wraps around from boring, to annoying, to frustrating, to hilarious, all the back away around to frustrating.
Like, beyond the bad marketing for this game, I'm honestly wondering if Hello Games just added it in as a way to dunk on everyone who kept bugging them about an explicit goal in the game. I haven't felt like this since the Witness.
Getting this issue now as well. Was able to play for an hour or more before the memory leak caught up with me but ever since landing on a low fauna planet with monsoon weather the frames are dropping like crazy, have been on planets with forests w/Big Things and a storm with no problem so I don't know wtf is up with this now.
On the plus side, found a planet with a ton of vortex cubes so that was fun, if I can get this slideshow issue fixed I'm gonna fly back there.
Anyone else use LowFlight mod? This never gets old:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DKPtGKt0sI
But for some reason the main no man's sky mod site is now flagged by chrome and blocked as having malware and when I do open it in another browser the formatting is all messed up.
I tried the hover version, but could never get my ship to land.
Interesting about the mods site. Guess HelloGames hired a QA tester and a black hat.
Got Chrome to load the site properly but it still spazzes going to mods claiming there's malware on the site, can continue to the site but kind of weird.
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Edit: And then one planet this evening literally allowed me to turn in a circle after landing and hit all 8 species
Edit2: I spent 2+ hours trying to find the last species on a planet (at the tail end of which I wrote the above post) before going to bed in anger at 1:00 am. Woke up this morning before work, fired up the PS4, and the last species was literally 90 degrees and 100 feet away, just chilling. So I have only one planet left to catalog, 9 more warps (and I have the cells for it), and 4 or so ships to destroy, and I'll have my Plat.
Then I think it's on to Lovers in a Dangerous Spacetime with the wife. NMS was a solid but solitary experience, and I need a little co-op comfort food.
Missed this, so either I live with the stuttering or try and see if there's some way to downgrade the game and never be able to scan a god damn bird why won't you scan just scan please! For the love of God scaaaaaan.
If I want to do any of the 100% creature stuff I'm definitely going to have to disable mods as I can't find shit in these woods. They're all there taunting me, but I can't see them.
Check your settings. The patch set a bunch of my settings to low. I'm still getting the stuttering after ~10 minutes with my settings back to the way they used to be.
I mean, maybe I could play for a lot longer with my settings lowered... but why should I compromise my experience with the game, when it had been working fine(ish) for me before?
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You could maybe try... unsubscribing? from the experimental branch or whatever it is one does and see if that fixes your issues (tho if it is an NVidia + Windows problem it probably won't).
edit: removed ellipsis for clarity
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But I dunno how this stuff works in Steam exactly.
On the plus side, I still haven't grown tired of the views, made all the better by all the damn barren planets I had been on:
They, uh, "fixed" the resource stacking "exploit" that let you stack items when you salvaged them from stuff. That's... not a good change at all.
Apparently planets with 15 (or more?) species couldn't hit 100% complete, I think I hit that once or twice. Now fixed.
More options menu stuff.
Aaaaand a bunch of various performance tweaks and whatnot.
That stacking "fix" really bugs me.
Rock Band DLC | GW:OttW - arrcd | WLD - Thortar
Are you on PC? Fuck inventory management is a great mod, allows stacking. I kept it at the default that doesn't change suit inventory, changes ship inventory to 1000, changes non stackable items to 10 in the suit and 40 or something on the ship.
If you think anything is too cheaty it's a simple adjustment in an ini file.
Welp, I guess I'm done with this game then.
Blue sky at night, Sentinels take flight.
"Bong" hehe.
Kinda crazy to read about this.
I am not sure myself, but if it causes some shit to go down then I hope it prevents the next studio from over promising and under delivering.
Eurogamer has picked up on the story as well:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-09-28-advertising-standards-launches-investigation-into-no-mans-sky
The store page/official marketing absolutely should have been updated when they knew the final product was not going to be equal.
Of course as someone said in the Reddit, it doesn't matter now; sales are done. But still would like to see an 'offical' ruling.
What bothers me the most is that HG has been silent since release, other than patch changelogs. Why? What possible explanation can there be for this, other than "talking to you people is what got us in trouble in the first place"? When even Shuhei Yoshida is calling you out in interviews, you have a problem. I don't see how their next project is met with anything other than a ton of skepticism. Unless they go back to projects that are more Joe Danger-esque in scope. (H*R reference unintentional.)
Does it matter for their business, at the end of the day? It matters if they want to make more games in the future. They're certainly sitting pretty right now, financially; that's probably a large part of why they've stayed silent. They made their money and they're just working on improvements. But that's no excuse.
this may be a dumb question from someone who hasn't played the game, but what did they not deliver on?
Aren't there a gajillion worlds to explore and wouldn't it take you forever to reach the center of the universe if you didn't use warps or what not?
Rock Band DLC | GW:OttW - arrcd | WLD - Thortar
I believe the trailers are still up on Steam if you'd like to check them out.
But the reddit post has all of them listed, and they are:
Videos:
Screenshots:
Store Page in general:
Some of those points are probably arguable.
oh, none of that is in game?!
yeah that's pretty bad if true
And that's what I like about this complaint is that it's on what is currently being used, not some 3,4? year old sizzle reel someone dug up.
I can't imagine what the PS4 folks must be feeling, I'm still enjoying it but I've also got mods coming out the ass added to the thing.
games change/update their UI during development, there's nothing weird about that
It sucks and I regret buying it on the PS4.
Well at least you can tinker with mods in Fallout 4.
Which I own on PC. :P
Also mods were blocked by SONY, so thanks for ruining my troll,