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Marvel Stuff! Thor is covered in brains!

BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
edited February 2017 in Social Entropy++
Marvel thread has been dead for a bit, soooo:

On the comics front they are setting up the big summer event, Secret Empire, starring facist/racist Captain America and a hilariously poor sense of timing. The Guardians books are also getting a sort of relaunch in time for the movie with Bendis' long run coming to a close and Gerry Duggan taking the reigns.

On the movie front we've got Logan in March, GotG 2 in May, Spider-Man: Homecoming in July and Thor: Ragnarok in November.

On the TV front we have Iron Fist arriving in March with Defenders and maybe The Punisher arriving in the Fall along with The Inhumans miniseries starting in August. Cloak and Dagger and Runaways are also in the mix there somewhere.

But none of that matters because Thor and Darryl are BACK:
https://youtu.be/n3TOw6r7ghc

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  • AtomicTofuAtomicTofu She's a straight-up supervillain, yo Registered User regular
  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    FUCK YES

    Chip Zdarsky quietly becoming one of Marvel's top writers is the best goddamn thing

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  • DysDys how am I even using this gun Registered User regular
    Is he straight up replacing Slott?

    Is he finally done with Spider-Man?

  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Is this like the 4th concurrent Peter Parker series or is this the new main one

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Is this like the 4th concurrent Peter Parker series or is this the new main one
    It looks like the new main one? He talks about how it is going to be different than ASM in a past tense so it sounds like ASM might be going on hiatus for a bit

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  • Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Thank fucking christ

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Chip Zdarsky describing the Peter Parker/Spider-Man dynamic as Spider-Man being like when you go to summer camp as a kid and don't know anyone there and decide you can be a "new person" that is way cooler and funnier than the old you but can't actually maintain that all the time and are mostly just the same you instantly proves that he was born to write a Spider-Man book.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
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    @Centipede Damascus it looks like your dream of actual live action Kirby Headgear is happening

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Is this like the 4th concurrent Peter Parker series or is this the new main one

    Don't worry, Miles is still the Spider-Man

  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    Keith wrote: »
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Is this like the 4th concurrent Peter Parker series or is this the new main one

    Don't worry, Miles is still the Spider-Man

    Still reasonably pissed off about that

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
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    Y

    yaaaaaay.....

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  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    Not really a fan of Zemo adopting his dad's loose hood. Also, who's the woman by Steve?

  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Is there a way I can purchase What If? Vol. 1 #44, the one with Cap being thawed out in the dystopian America of the 80s

    Comixology only has that run up to issue 38 or so, I can't imagine there were any recent reprints of that issue so I don't know where to look

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  • never dienever die Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Is this like the 4th concurrent Peter Parker series or is this the new main one
    It looks like the new main one? He talks about how it is going to be different than ASM in a past tense so it sounds like ASM might be going on hiatus for a bit

    I'm not sure if it's replacing it or. It. In his first answer he says
    The main book, Amazing Spider-Man, has kept things fresh by stretching the character and his situation. It’s still classic Spider-Man at its core, but transposed into new settings. With this book, we’re using the same Spider-Man in-continuity but shifting the spotlight back to his NYC environment and supporting cast. But even though we’re pushing to make it a more personal book, we’re still going to have big adventures with ramifications that’ll be felt in his other books.

    That reads to me that it will be happening co-currently to Amazing Spider-Man.

    I'm also leery of a street level Perer Parker again as it very quickly leads to the question of "what does Miles do? What is his niche?"

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Is there a way I can purchase What If? Vol. 1 #44, the one with Cap being thawed out in the dystopian America of the 80s

    Comixology only has that run up to issue 38 or so, I can't imagine there were any recent reprints of that issue so I do to know where to look
    http://m.ebay.com/itm/What-If-Vol-1-44-Captain-America-was-reveved-today-Peter-Gillis-1984-F-/201816723634?nav=SEARCH

    Not in good condition though

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
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  • OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Keith wrote: »
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    Finger-knife Riker, Picard, and child Ro Laren in "Logan"

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  • FakefauxFakefaux Cóiste Bodhar Driving John McCain to meet some Iraqis who'd very much like to make his acquaintanceRegistered User regular
    edited February 2017
    There's also been a bunch of new Black Panther concept art released, giving us our first real look at how the MCU will approach Wakanda, among other things.

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    What's interesting about the approach is it doesn't look super high tech. It's an interesting mix of old traditional buildings and fancier new buildings, but the new stuff doesn't look much more advanced than what you might see in the skyline of, say, Shanghai or Chicago or other modern big cities. There are no flying cars or giant robots to be seen.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    There's another piece that is really cool that shows ancient houses encased in some sort of plexiglass type deal right next to modern skyscrapers which is a really cool way of showing that Wakanda is cutting edge but respects its history and legacy

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  • FakefauxFakefaux Cóiste Bodhar Driving John McCain to meet some Iraqis who'd very much like to make his acquaintanceRegistered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    There's another piece that is really cool that shows ancient houses encased in some sort of plexiglass type deal right next to modern skyscrapers which is a really cool way of showing that Wakanda is cutting edge but respects its history and legacy

    That seems to be a big emphasis. There's a very, very broad mix of architectural styles on display, some of them looking quite old. There's another picture of what looks like a high-level Wakandan meeting room (probably T'Challa's briefing room or something similar), which is very fancy and sleek with huge windows that look out across the cityscape, but the walls are lined with ancient stone engravings of warriors and animals.

    It's a much more nuanced touch than the comics usually go for. In those, Wakanda almost inevitably looks like "generic future city" or "ancient African city with all the sci-fi stuff underneath".

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  • OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Yeah that sounds like it's got a lot of thought put into it, which I really respect.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    So these aren't Marvel but all 3 writers have a history with Marvel

    Barnes and Noble has an Image sale going on where if you buy 2 trades you get a third for free, so I bought the first volumes of Kill or Be Killed, The Fix and Monstress.
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    Kill or Be Killed is from Brubaker and Phillips and was...good, but not something I think I am gonna keep up with. Its about an unstable college student who attempts suicide and is unwittingly saved by a demon that tells him he must now kill one evil person each month or else he will die. The protagonist is kind of totally insufferable, very much a I KNOW THE TRUE DARK NATURE OF THE WORLD MAAAAN type dude and his being obnoxious appears to be very intentional but doesn't make it any easier to put up with. The twist at the end that
    the demon is seemingly a figment of his imagination, as it appears in the pulp art his dad drew when he was a kid, and that he is just mentally ill
    didn't help matters a ton either.

    The Fix is from Nick Spencer and Steve Lieber and is 100% the spiritual successor to The Superior Foes of Spider-Man. It is the same exact tone as that series but is able to both go further with the crime aspects and have more outright terrible protagonists. I loved it. Absolutely hilarious and the overarching mystery gets out of control super quick in a very entertaining way.

    Haven't got to Monstress yet but I have heard many good things.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Keith wrote: »
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    Best version of Wolverine. It's funny, because Fox may have fucked everything else up, but not that.(Origins not withstanding)

  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
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    @Centipede Damascus it looks like your dream of actual live action Kirby Headgear is happening

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  • FakefauxFakefaux Cóiste Bodhar Driving John McCain to meet some Iraqis who'd very much like to make his acquaintanceRegistered User regular
    Another thought about that Wakanda stuff: the relatively low level of tech on display is interesting.

    For starters, it probably means they're going to get a bit more creative with how vibranium fits into a society. Vibranium is a weird concept that allows for a lot of bizarre applications, as a weapon or as a tool. In the comics, though, Wakanda's advanced tech tends to just get translated as lasers, robots, forcefields, and other generic sci-fi concepts. Maybe they're going to stray away from that.

    The other thing is that it probably means Wakanda might not be as... gross as it sometimes is in the comics. That is, "we have the cure for cancer but ha ha fuck the rest of you." I mean, it'll probably still be isolationist, but the impression I'm getting here is its technology is probably just moderately advanced. Cars that don't run on gas, free internet with holographic displays, better medicine, etc etc. You probably aren't going to have flying cars and robot servants, at least not for everyday people. Of course, there are bound to be some more advanced toys reserved for Black Panther and the Wakandan state security forces, stuff it's too dangerous to leave unrestricted. The end result, though, is a Wakanda that's more advanced than most nations, but not so advanced they seem like enormous dicks for not sharing.

    Because let's be honest, the idea of a bunch of old white comic creators coming up with the idea of a fantastical sci-fi African nation that they can play around in without having to address the realities of modern Africa, while also making this fantastical society a bunch of huge pricks is... problematic.

  • AtomicTofuAtomicTofu She's a straight-up supervillain, yo Registered User regular
  • CalicaCalica Registered User regular
    Well, we know Wakanda has cryo chambers, at least. The one we saw at the end of Civil War looked way too polished to be a one-off. (And if you have the ability to put people in suspended animation, it makes a ton of sense that every well-equipped hospital would have at least one.)

  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Calica wrote: »
    Well, we know Wakanda has cryo chambers, at least. The one we saw at the end of Civil War looked way too polished to be a one-off. (And if you have the ability to put people in suspended animation, it makes a ton of sense that every well-equipped hospital would have at least one.)

    But they aren't completely out of line with what the rest of the world is doing (Russia had cryochambers[more primitive, certainly] during the Cold War). The way it looks to me is the Wakanda is high tech, but Tony Stark still gives them a run for their money. Like, they aren't smarter than literally everywhere else, but they are able to put their resources behind projects without bureaucratic squabbling, so they can get ahead that way.

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  • FakefauxFakefaux Cóiste Bodhar Driving John McCain to meet some Iraqis who'd very much like to make his acquaintanceRegistered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Calica wrote: »
    Well, we know Wakanda has cryo chambers, at least. The one we saw at the end of Civil War looked way too polished to be a one-off. (And if you have the ability to put people in suspended animation, it makes a ton of sense that every well-equipped hospital would have at least one.)

    But they aren't completely out of line with what the rest of the world is doing (Russia had cryochambers[more primitive, certainly] during the Cold War). The way it looks to me is the Wakanda is high tech, but Tony Stark still gives them a run for their money. Like, they aren't smarter than literally everywhere else, but they are able to put their resources behind projects without bureaucratic squabbling, so they can get ahead that way.

    Still willing to bet that the top levels of the Wakandan government (IE: Black Panther) get access to more experimental and advanced vibranium tech. And I guarantee, before the movie is over, we get to see what Wakanda's self defense systems/forces are capable of.

  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Fakefaux wrote: »
    Because let's be honest, the idea of a bunch of old white comic creators coming up with the idea of a fantastical sci-fi African nation that they can play around in without having to address the realities of modern Africa, while also making this fantastical society a bunch of huge pricks is... problematic.

    I'm honestly not aware of Wakanda being portrayed as jerks until Hudlin came around. MacGregor and Kirby and Priest generally downplayed or ignored the negative elements of Wakanda's isolationism as far as I can recall.

  • FakefauxFakefaux Cóiste Bodhar Driving John McCain to meet some Iraqis who'd very much like to make his acquaintanceRegistered User regular
    Fakefaux wrote: »
    Because let's be honest, the idea of a bunch of old white comic creators coming up with the idea of a fantastical sci-fi African nation that they can play around in without having to address the realities of modern Africa, while also making this fantastical society a bunch of huge pricks is... problematic.

    I'm honestly not aware of Wakanda being portrayed as jerks until Hudlin came around. MacGregor and Kirby and Priest generally downplayed or ignored the negative elements of Wakanda's isolationism as far as I can recall.

    Even McGregor had the Wakandans being super dismissive of outsiders when T'Challa brought his American girlfriend around.

  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Will Ka-Zar help overthrow the Secret Empire

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Will Ka-Zar help overthrow the Secret Empire
    God, if only

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    So, as happy as I am that Peter Parker is moving back on down to NYC

    Remember when Miles was supposed to be the "Street level" Spider-Man, while Peter went off to do bigger things?

    But seriously bringing Miles into the "main" universe was never a good idea for even a second, in the Ultimate universe he was the Spider-Man

    Now he's one of like, shit, what are we up to? Like six Spider-People?

  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Ka-Zar is by far and away my favorite Marvel character and it's real goddamn embarrassing for me to like this White Man in a Savage Land dude as much as I do

  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    So, as happy as I am that Peter Parker is moving back on down to NYC

    Remember when Miles was supposed to be the "Street level" Spider-Man, while Peter went off to do bigger things?

    But seriously bringing Miles into the "main" universe was never a good idea for even a second, in the Ultimate universe he was the Spider-Man

    Now he's one of like, shit, what are we up to? Like six Spider-People?

    Seven, I think!

    Spider-Man (Peter), Spider-Man (Miles), Spider-Man 2099, Scarlet Spider, Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew), Spider-Woman (Gwen Stacy), and Silk.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Keith wrote: »
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    This is an 80s as fuck poster and I love it.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Devlin_DragonusDevlin_Dragonus Gorgeous Dallas, TXRegistered User regular
    Anyone been keeping up with Agents of Shield?

    Tonight's episode was really good and I'm kinda excited for next weeks episode.

    "Cool, origin story bro."

    I got nothing for you now. Try again later.

  • CalicaCalica Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Calica wrote: »
    Well, we know Wakanda has cryo chambers, at least. The one we saw at the end of Civil War looked way too polished to be a one-off. (And if you have the ability to put people in suspended animation, it makes a ton of sense that every well-equipped hospital would have at least one.)

    But they aren't completely out of line with what the rest of the world is doing (Russia had cryochambers[more primitive, certainly] during the Cold War). The way it looks to me is the Wakanda is high tech, but Tony Stark still gives them a run for their money. Like, they aren't smarter than literally everywhere else, but they are able to put their resources behind projects without bureaucratic squabbling, so they can get ahead that way.

    Something the MCU glosses over - for obvious reasons - is how life for average people would be different in a world with comic book tech in it. I've always assumed that for most people, the tech level is roughly the same as ours, or maybe slightly more advanced. The really cool shit is reserved for individual geniuses and clandestine agencies. It's like how in our world, the military's always developing stuff in secret that would seem like science fiction if it got out.

    Like, Tony Stark had floating holographic gesture-based interfaces and an AI well on its way to sentience in 2009; but when Cap and Black Widow are fugitives in 2014, they plug their flash drive in at a perfectly ordinary Apple store.

  • LorahaloLorahalo Registered User regular
    I just assume all that stuff with Tony is because he likes having fancy shit, and that it's all way too expensive for anyone else to use. Plus he only made the one, because it was just for him.

    I have a podcast about Digimon called the Digital Moncast, on Audio Entropy.
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