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Same here... I believe I read it in about 3 days compared to 3 weeks with Shakespear... oh god I hate that fucker.
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A Separate Peace was pretty much the worst thing since ass in a can
Brave New World, 1984, Clockwork Orange, I just love the context so much
I ordered a copy on amazon for like 8 bucks, including shipping. It comes in about a week later and I'm reading it. A little more than half way through, I come across a receipt... a receipt from a book store about 10 minutes away from me.
From 1996.
creepy
It's also funny, I think I love the No Country movie as much as I love the novel. That never, ever happens.
Hey, me too.
Let's make out.
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I didn't know Clockwork was a book. I haven't seen the movie either, I've been meaning to though... O_o
You shut your whore mouth!
It's not all that dystopic, more in line with the political theme. If you're looking for dystopia, pick up A Clockwork Orange, but make sure your copy has 21 chapters (not 20), especially if it's old and you're in the states.
what
clockwork is such a book
This is one of those cases where it's definately better to read it first, then watch it. I did it the other way round, and it wasn't as good as it could have been.
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Yeah, but I don't expect some random guy at work to get that. I DO expect a reasonable, literate adult to get
humm... sounds a lot like the current Gov't in the US of A.
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Yes that is Soviet Russia for you when Stalin takes power.
1984, however, makes a good political read, a good character drama, a good pulp-ish sci-fi, and so on. It covers pretty much any genre I'm likely to be in the mood for at any given moment, and covers them all well.
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I've almost finished Crooked Little Vein already. Are there any other books like this out there?
I am not disagreeing with you, and I don't want you to quote my post saying "Yeah, but" because I am in complete agreement with you, but I think satires are the only popular form of fiction able to say "if you don't know the context, don't judge the book"
also I think vonnegut is my favorite author. He doesn't really depict dystopian societies much (I mean, Cat's Cradle and your personal opinion about modern-day America aside) but there's still something significantly dystopian about his settings and prose.
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I just read paradise lost and jesus christ fuck that book
My Junior-year Lit class is a perfect example of that. Most of them didn't get Proposal at all. The handful of us who already knew the background (how bad is it when your a lit geek relative to an honors lit class?) played on their perceptions for a while in the 'open discussion' period. This was during the height of the 'dead baby joke' fad, and we had the 'dead baby joke' king in our class. It was pretty hilarious. Then the teacher explained it, and they probably forgot about it by next week.
I mean I understand that it is either brilliant satire or depressingly retarded views on socioeconomic conduct
but that doesn't forgive tiresome prose and and overall bland way of expressing ideas
I enjoyed comparing the two and explaining why I thought being a succesful tyrant and running "Utopia" were actually the same thing.
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None of them really make me want to slog through 200 pages of high-styled archaic English. It's fun in small doses, but it's got to be really good for me to bother getting into that 'mode', ya know?
what the fuck is wrong with you
utopia is one of the worst dystopian novels ever, it is SO BORING
it's like 200 pages of Goldstein's memoirs section in 1984
We by Yvegeny Zamyatin is at least the template for 1984, go read that
also:
i just got the amazing adventures of kavalier and clay, and i read 200 pages in one sitting, then went and wrote until i realized how thin my dog was and how he's probably going to die soon
And maybe it was just the atheist in me reading into it but I found it to be somewhat sympathetic to him as well which I enjoyed.
Yeah I am rereading this now after reading it in high school, and I was not so good at picking up on this back then apparently
maybe it was the shitty prose, the godawful development, the terrible, caricatures the author tries to pass off as "characters" and the fucking moronic hypocrisy in the actions of the aforementioned caricatures
maybe it is the fact that it is the douchey epic for the person who does not know what they are talking about or how an epic should legitimately be written because never have I seen a book by which I am so convinced that an author is writing with the sole purpose of parodying an entire language
The god character in that book pissed me off so much though.
Also I took one of the suggestions from this thread and started Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell by Susannah Clarke
I am enjoying it very much so far, so thanks for that!