At least they're deriding something worth deriding.
They could be doing things far less worthwhile.
Like hawking Ron Paul.
I guess.
Yeah, ronally, I mean totally.
I question anon's motives. Are they doing this out of some benefit for humanity or to get attention and be kind of retarded. It would be great if it was for the benefit of humanity.
At least they're deriding something worth deriding.
They could be doing things far less worthwhile.
Like hawking Ron Paul.
I guess.
Yeah, ronally, I mean totally.
I question anon's motives. Are they doing this out of some benefit for humanity or to get attention and be kind of retarded. It would be great if it was for the benefit of humanity.
It was "for the lulz" initially but then it sort of spiralled into the crusade against the many injustices that the CoS has engaged in over the past 30 years once they realized how hard Scientology was trying to suppress their criticism.
They picked today (Feb. 10th) because it's Lisa McPherson's birthday.
On the planet Teegeeak born and raised in Volcanoes is where my Thetans spent most of their days, Being overpopulated and cool and all watching some brainwashing movies outside of DC8 making school Till a couple of Psychiatrists who were up to no good, started freezing aliens in my neighborhood, I got in one little explosion and my Overlord Got scared and said "your moving with the homospaiens on Earth, that planet with air" So I floated toward home but when I came near the Soul Catching devices trapped me like Ghostbuster gear. If anything I could say the in-flight movie was rare but I thought "nah forget it, Yo Xenu to to Earth if you care" I looked at my fleshy prison and I was finally there to sit on my throne as the Prince of the beasts with body hair.
I think that when 4chan which is widely regarded as the asshole of the internet gets offended, then there is something seriously wrong with Scientology. I mean (some of) 4chan likes scat porn.
Anyway I think its noble of them, Bravo 4chan, Bravo.
what kind of a stupid thing is that to say? My point is that they're not going to meet their goals. They're going to have a fun party in the park and go home feeling like big men because a couple of coppers eyeballed them. Acting like they're going to take down the scientologists is fucking retarded.
Sitting on a bus was retarded too. She just wanted to feel like a man. Or wait.
I bet you felt clever typing that. And you know what? Rosa Parks by herself was useless. Very brave, but wouldn't accomplish anything by herself.
The civil rights movement wasn't Rosa Parks. It was million of people protesting, boycotting, lobbying, engaging in civil disobedience to try change minds sets and the laws that made African Americans second class citizens.
Do you want to tell me how this one day event is similar?
I look at it like this. At least they pick a cause to get behind and protest legally. Sure most of the time chaner just make a few prank calls and shoup a few photo and call it the day.
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Do you want to tell me how this one day event is similar?
I do believe the point is that every movement starts somewhere.
Is there any evidence that this will be a movement, beyond the fact that hundreds of people showed up to a one day protest? Because that's not convincing evidence.
And Rosa Parks wasn't the beginning of the movement, anyways, so if that's the comparison, it fails hard.
You never know what will become a movement until it does.
Why do you have such a problem with this? Are you just being contrary? I don't care either way on this, but you're being overly negative about it. I mean, these people are doing something. Speaking out against something that bothers them. What's wrong with that? Should they just not bother because they don't have a lot of support yet? I mean what the fuck, dude?
I went an investigated what was going on in London today. I'm going to "review" it for Skeptobot.
But shortly.
Is it going to be a world wide movement? No.
Is it going to change anything? No.
Will they get bored? Yes.
Did it make a lot of people think? Yes.
I was really taken back how professional and polite the deviants from 4chan were. There were fliers handed out, decent signs and lots of interacting with the public to explain what was happening and why.
The police were also awesome. So awesome in fact that at numerous times their were "cheers" for the police.
Very gentlemanly. And I thought I would never say it - but it made me think better of 4chan. A little at least.
Oh and I was tailed at one point by two scientologists.
You never know what will become a movement until it does.
Why do you have such a problem with this? Are you just being contrary? I don't care either way on this, but you're being overly negative about it. I mean, these people are doing something. Speaking out against something that bothers them. What's wrong with that? Should they just not bother because they don't have a lot of support yet? I mean what the fuck, dude?
I for one am incredibly offended when anyone does something that doesn't net immediate concrete achievement not only of their goals, but goals which I assign them and they will never be able to meet. I hate voters for the same reason.
1. They're protesting something the majority of people already know is stupid and wrong. It's like staging a protest against pedophilia.
2. Why does it matter what Scientology does anyway? "But, they con people into believing nonsense, then take their money, and give them advice that is harmful to their health..." yeah, welcome to religion. What makes Scientology so worthy of their efforts and not Mormanism, Christianity, and Zoastarianism? Because it's newer? Seems like a stupid reason.
3. There really isn't a three... I think 1 and 2 suffice.
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2. Why does it matter what Scientology does anyway? "But, they con people into believing nonsense, then take their money, and give them advice that is harmful to their health..." yeah, welcome to religion. What makes Scientology so worthy of their efforts and not Mormanism, Christianity, and Zoastarianism? Because it's newer? Seems like a stupid reason.
Scientology is tax exempt in most places, and that's one of the major points of the protest.
As a 4chaner, I have to say that Anon is actually quite intelligent, they just choose to be total dickwad idiots. I think the majority of us realized that this protest would never amount to much quite a long time ago but the fact of the matter is that everyone was bored, so it happened.
Personally I think the best thing about the entire protest is that it displays the range of 4chans audience. A global protest is pretty damn impressive for a bunch of bored misanthropes.
2. Why does it matter what Scientology does anyway? "But, they con people into believing nonsense, then take their money, and give them advice that is harmful to their health..." yeah, welcome to religion. What makes Scientology so worthy of their efforts and not Mormanism, Christianity, and Zoastarianism? Because it's newer? Seems like a stupid reason.
Scientology is tax exempt in most places, and that's one of the major points of the protest.
All religions are. That still doesn't explain what the difference is. How is scientology any more nonsense then most of the other things people choose to believe.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
2. Why does it matter what Scientology does anyway? "But, they con people into believing nonsense, then take their money, and give them advice that is harmful to their health..." yeah, welcome to religion. What makes Scientology so worthy of their efforts and not Mormanism, Christianity, and Zoastarianism? Because it's newer? Seems like a stupid reason.
Because they ruin lives and kill people. And no, not everyone knows this shit already.
2. Why does it matter what Scientology does anyway? "But, they con people into believing nonsense, then take their money, and give them advice that is harmful to their health..." yeah, welcome to religion. What makes Scientology so worthy of their efforts and not Mormanism, Christianity, and Zoastarianism? Because it's newer? Seems like a stupid reason.
Scientology is tax exempt in most places, and that's one of the major points of the protest.
All religions are. That still doesn't explain what the difference is. How is scientology any more nonsense then most of the other things people choose to believe.
Scientology is much more of a business than other religions.
2. Why does it matter what Scientology does anyway? "But, they con people into believing nonsense, then take their money, and give them advice that is harmful to their health..." yeah, welcome to religion. What makes Scientology so worthy of their efforts and not Mormanism, Christianity, and Zoastarianism? Because it's newer? Seems like a stupid reason.
Because they ruin lives and kill people. And no, not everyone knows this shit already.
Again, how is this ANY DIFFERENT then any other religion?
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
1. They're protesting something the majority of people already know is stupid and wrong. It's like staging a protest against pedophilia.
2. Why does it matter what Scientology does anyway? "But, they con people into believing nonsense, then take their money, and give them advice that is harmful to their health..." yeah, welcome to religion. What makes Scientology so worthy of their efforts and not Mormanism, Christianity, and Zoastarianism? Because it's newer? Seems like a stupid reason.
I don't know how true one is. I think scientology is more seen as kooky as opposed to dangerous and employing shady tactics. As for your second point, scientology is far more like a cult then a religion (yes there is a difference) and for that fact far more dangerous and influential among its members.
2. Why does it matter what Scientology does anyway? "But, they con people into believing nonsense, then take their money, and give them advice that is harmful to their health..." yeah, welcome to religion. What makes Scientology so worthy of their efforts and not Mormanism, Christianity, and Zoastarianism? Because it's newer? Seems like a stupid reason.
Scientology is tax exempt in most places, and that's one of the major points of the protest.
All religions are. That still doesn't explain what the difference is. How is scientology any more nonsense then most of the other things people choose to believe.
It's more nonsensical because it's a trademarked organization that charges for information regarding the "faith."
But at least for all of those other religions the entire texts of their beliefs are effectively free. Whereas for Scientology it costs about £200,000. The relative transparency of other religions are what set them apart to Scientology.
To prohibit and forbid the spread of your holy words is quite unlike most religions.
2. Why does it matter what Scientology does anyway? "But, they con people into believing nonsense, then take their money, and give them advice that is harmful to their health..." yeah, welcome to religion. What makes Scientology so worthy of their efforts and not Mormanism, Christianity, and Zoastarianism? Because it's newer? Seems like a stupid reason.
Because they ruin lives and kill people. And no, not everyone knows this shit already.
Again, how is this ANY DIFFERENT then any other religion?
It's not a religion, it's a business/cult.
But let's not go there.
I still think you are vastly overestimating the number of people who know what Scientology really is and does.
1. They're protesting something the majority of people already know is stupid and wrong. It's like staging a protest against pedophilia.
2. Why does it matter what Scientology does anyway? "But, they con people into believing nonsense, then take their money, and give them advice that is harmful to their health..." yeah, welcome to religion. What makes Scientology so worthy of their efforts and not Mormanism, Christianity, and Zoastarianism? Because it's newer? Seems like a stupid reason.
3. There really isn't a three... I think 1 and 2 suffice.
Scientology isn't a religion, it's a business. Unlike all religions you can't learn any doctrine, progress in the "church", or even acquire religious materials without paying a hefty fee.
Just watch some of their promotional videos - they're corporate videos.
Yeah actually Sentry I think their entire point is to teach people the things you don't know. You are their target.
What don't I know? That scientology is nonsense? That they prevent their members from taking needed medication that has, at times, resulted in the deaths of their members? That their entire hierarchy is based on how much you contribute to the church? That you essentially have to buy your way in, then buy your way up within its ranks? That the only reason it's so popular in Hollywood is that it is becoming a means of furthering ones career that is closed off to non-members?
What exactly don't I know?
Again, I still fail to see how this is any different from churches that perform exorcisms, demand a tithing, prevent members from getting blood transfusions or having necessary operations, advocate disciplining wives harshly, or any other minutia that permiates many mainstream religions.
Seriously, how is this any different?
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
2. Why does it matter what Scientology does anyway? "But, they con people into believing nonsense, then take their money, and give them advice that is harmful to their health..." yeah, welcome to religion. What makes Scientology so worthy of their efforts and not Mormanism, Christianity, and Zoastarianism? Because it's newer? Seems like a stupid reason.
Most people don't know just how cruel and shady Scientology's practices are.
My father has always held out Scientology and auditing to be based purely on science and not-on religious 'belief or faith. We regularly promised and distributed publications with 'scientific guarantees'. This was and has always been common practice. My father and I created a 'religious front' only for tax purposes and legal protection 'from fraud Claims'. We almost always told nearly everyone that Scientology was really science, not a religion, but that the religious front was created to deal with the government."
"The invidiousness of the alleged conspiracy is best reflected in the fact that plaintiff was sued [by the Church of Scientology] 21 times over the course of a 17- month period in jurisdictions ranging from New York to California.... we hold that plaintiff has sufficiently alleged the elements of the tort of malicious prosecution and, for purposes of this case, the tort of civil conspiracy to commit malicious prosecution."
"For most of the mission holders, it was their first glimpse of David Miscavige. Security guards never left his side during the evening. Apart from introducing each speaker, he had little to say to the audience. He merely warned them what would happen to anyone who turned against Scientology." ... 'That person's future is black. It is so black I can't even describe it right now. I can't even even find the words to describe how black that person's future is . . . I mean it is really black.' ... "Within a few days, some of them found out exactly what he meant. Eighteen were taken out to the Scientology prison camp at Happy Valley where they joined David Mayo, who had been there since the summer. They were kept for several months before being released." (Transcript of 1982 "Mission Holder Conference" entered as evidence in July 1984 child custody case before Justice Latey, Family Division, High Court, London; David Miscavige is the leader of Scientology since the death of L. Ron Hubbard)
The four-year-old boy could no longer cry. He had been nearly 40 hours in the chain locker of the flagship Apollo and his entire body was aching from his efforts to chip off rust. His knees and hands were raw with cuts and bruises. His voice was raspy from crying, and he was desperately afraid. He was constantly making resolutions to never, never again eat the Commodores telexes--the most recent crime of which he had been accused." ... "Little Tony had entered the chain locker through the tiny manhole that led to it. The metallic sound as the lid slammed shut sounded final somehow. The space was cramped for even his small body, and he was enveloped by darkness. It was wet in there and very, very scary. The chains of the ship's anchor took on the dimensions of a monster. At one point a rat scuttled by him squealing. He was sure he was going to die.
But at least for all of those other religions the entire texts of their beliefs are effectively free. Whereas for Scientology it costs about £200,000. The relative transparency of other religions are what set them apart to Scientology.
To prohibit and forbid the spread of your holy words is quite unlike most religions.[/ QUOTE]
Mormanism does the exact same thing. Aside from the basic promotional material, you can't even enter one of their churches without being an indoctrinated member.
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They could be doing things far less worthwhile.
Like hawking Ron Paul.
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I guess.
It was "for the lulz" initially but then it sort of spiralled into the crusade against the many injustices that the CoS has engaged in over the past 30 years once they realized how hard Scientology was trying to suppress their criticism.
They picked today (Feb. 10th) because it's Lisa McPherson's birthday.
I don't foresee a lot of other options for them.
They could be supporting net neutrality or something, but there's nothing weird or crazy about that.
If I had ample transport and didn't work today, I would have joined the protest in Edmonton.
Xenu just don't understand.
I might have actually gone for the hell of it, plus a burning hated for scientology.
Anyway I think its noble of them, Bravo 4chan, Bravo.
I bet you felt clever typing that. And you know what? Rosa Parks by herself was useless. Very brave, but wouldn't accomplish anything by herself.
The civil rights movement wasn't Rosa Parks. It was million of people protesting, boycotting, lobbying, engaging in civil disobedience to try change minds sets and the laws that made African Americans second class citizens.
Do you want to tell me how this one day event is similar?
And Rosa Parks wasn't the beginning of the movement, anyways, so if that's the comparison, it fails hard.
Why do you have such a problem with this? Are you just being contrary? I don't care either way on this, but you're being overly negative about it. I mean, these people are doing something. Speaking out against something that bothers them. What's wrong with that? Should they just not bother because they don't have a lot of support yet? I mean what the fuck, dude?
But shortly.
Is it going to be a world wide movement? No.
Is it going to change anything? No.
Will they get bored? Yes.
Did it make a lot of people think? Yes.
I was really taken back how professional and polite the deviants from 4chan were. There were fliers handed out, decent signs and lots of interacting with the public to explain what was happening and why.
The police were also awesome. So awesome in fact that at numerous times their were "cheers" for the police.
Very gentlemanly. And I thought I would never say it - but it made me think better of 4chan. A little at least.
Oh and I was tailed at one point by two scientologists.
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This generation just isn't apathetic enough.
1. They're protesting something the majority of people already know is stupid and wrong. It's like staging a protest against pedophilia.
2. Why does it matter what Scientology does anyway? "But, they con people into believing nonsense, then take their money, and give them advice that is harmful to their health..." yeah, welcome to religion. What makes Scientology so worthy of their efforts and not Mormanism, Christianity, and Zoastarianism? Because it's newer? Seems like a stupid reason.
3. There really isn't a three... I think 1 and 2 suffice.
Scientology is tax exempt in most places, and that's one of the major points of the protest.
Personally I think the best thing about the entire protest is that it displays the range of 4chans audience. A global protest is pretty damn impressive for a bunch of bored misanthropes.
All religions are. That still doesn't explain what the difference is. How is scientology any more nonsense then most of the other things people choose to believe.
Because they ruin lives and kill people. And no, not everyone knows this shit already.
Scientology is much more of a business than other religions.
Again, how is this ANY DIFFERENT then any other religion?
I don't know how true one is. I think scientology is more seen as kooky as opposed to dangerous and employing shady tactics. As for your second point, scientology is far more like a cult then a religion (yes there is a difference) and for that fact far more dangerous and influential among its members.
It's more nonsensical because it's a trademarked organization that charges for information regarding the "faith."
But at least for all of those other religions the entire texts of their beliefs are effectively free. Whereas for Scientology it costs about £200,000. The relative transparency of other religions are what set them apart to Scientology.
To prohibit and forbid the spread of your holy words is quite unlike most religions.
2009 is a year of Updates - one every Monday. Hopefully. xx
It's not a religion, it's a business/cult.
But let's not go there.
I still think you are vastly overestimating the number of people who know what Scientology really is and does.
Scientology isn't a religion, it's a business. Unlike all religions you can't learn any doctrine, progress in the "church", or even acquire religious materials without paying a hefty fee.
Just watch some of their promotional videos - they're corporate videos.
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What don't I know? That scientology is nonsense? That they prevent their members from taking needed medication that has, at times, resulted in the deaths of their members? That their entire hierarchy is based on how much you contribute to the church? That you essentially have to buy your way in, then buy your way up within its ranks? That the only reason it's so popular in Hollywood is that it is becoming a means of furthering ones career that is closed off to non-members?
What exactly don't I know?
Again, I still fail to see how this is any different from churches that perform exorcisms, demand a tithing, prevent members from getting blood transfusions or having necessary operations, advocate disciplining wives harshly, or any other minutia that permiates many mainstream religions.
Seriously, how is this any different?
Most people don't know just how cruel and shady Scientology's practices are.
Witness their fraudulent origins:
Their hyper-litigious bullying:
Their prison camp:
And their child slaves in international waters.