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Co-ed dorm rooms

Pants ManPants Man Registered User
edited May 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
pretty self-explanatory, i just saw this on CNN and was kind of shocked

http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/05/02/coed.dorm.rooms.ap/index.html
(AP) -- Erik Youngdahl and Michelle Garcia share a dorm room at Connecticut's Wesleyan University. But they say there's no funny business going on. Really. They mean it.


Erik Youngdahl and Michelle Garcia surf the internet in their room at Wesleyan University.

They have set up their beds side-by-side like Lucy and Ricky in "I Love Lucy" and avert their eyes when one of them is changing clothes.

"People are shocked to hear that it's happening and even that it's possible," said Youngdahl, a 20-year-old sophomore. But "once you actually live in it, it doesn't actually turn into a big deal."

In the prim 1950s, college dorms were off-limits to members of the opposite sex. Then came the 1970s, when male and female students started crossing paths in coed dormitories. Now, to the astonishment of some baby boomer parents, a growing number of colleges are going even further: coed rooms.

At least two dozen schools, including Brown University, the University of Pennsylvania, Oberlin College, Clark University and the California Institute of Technology, allow some or all students to share a room with anyone they choose, including someone of the opposite sex. This spring, as students sign up for next year's room, more schools are following suit, including Stanford University.

As shocking as it sounds to some parents, some students and schools say it's not about sex.

Instead, they say the demand is mostly from heterosexual students who want to live with close friends who happen to be of the opposite sex. Some gay students who feel more comfortable rooming with someone of the opposite sex are also taking advantage of the option.

"It ultimately comes down to finding someone that you feel is compatible with you," said Jeffrey Chang, a junior at Clark in Worcester, Massachusetts, who co-founded the National Student Genderblind Campaign, a group that is pushing for gender-neutral housing. "Students aren't doing this to make a point. They're not doing this to upset their parents. It's really for practical reasons."

Couples do sometimes room together, an arrangement known at some schools as "roomcest." Brown explicitly discourages couples from living together on campus, be they gay or straight. But the University of California, Riverside has never had a problem with a roommate couple breaking up midyear, said James C. Smith, assistant director for residence life.

Most schools introduced the couples option in the past three or four years. So far, relatively few students are taking part. At the University of Pennsylvania, which began offering coed rooms in 2005, about 120 out of 10,400 students took advantage of the option this year.

At UC Riverside, which has approximately 6,000 students in campus housing, about 50 have roommates of the opposite sex. The school has had the option since 2005.

Garcia and Youngdahl live in a house for students with an interest in Russian studies. They said they were already friendly and didn't think they would be compatible with some of the other people in the house.

"I had just roomed with a boy. I was under the impression at the time that girls were a little bit neater and more quiet," Youngdahl said. "As it turns out, I don't see much of a difference from one sex to the other."

Garcia, 19, admitted: "I'm incredibly messy."

Parents aren't necessarily thrilled with boy-girl housing.

Debbie Feldman's 20-year-old daughter, Samantha, is a sophomore at Oberlin in Ohio and plans to room with her platonic friend Grey Caspro, a straight guy, next year. Feldman said she was shocked when her daughter told her.

"When you have a male and female sharing such close quarters, I think it's somewhat delusional to think there won't be sexual tension," 52-year-old Feldman said. "Maybe this generation feels more comfortable walking around in their underwear. I'm not sure that's a good thing."

Still, Feldman said her daughter is partly in college to learn life lessons, and it's her decision. Samantha said she assured her mom that she thinks of Caspro as a brother.

"I'm really close to him, and I consider him one of my really good friends," she said. "I really trust him. That trust makes it work."

i guess this is great if the people rooming with each other are compatable and also incredibly mature, but there are just so many things i can see going wrong with this that i'm really surprised that colleges would take the risk in doing this. if there was ever some kind of sexual incident, i'd bet dollars to doughnuts that the parents would try and find a way to make the college liable in some fashion. i just envision thousands and thousands of horny teenagers signing up for this thinking it'll get them laid.

i dunno, even outside of a dorm situation, co ed roomies are often frowned upon. i don't see it going much better with a bunch of college freshman (although maybe the solution here is to restrict it to upperclassmen who've lived in the dorms before).

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  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I think the idea is to restrict it to upperclassmen, though lord knows a lot of freshmen haven't matured much after their first year. Might also be a boon to homosexual students who would be uncomfortable with a same-sex roommate.

  • thorgotthorgot Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Brown explicitly discourages couples from living together on campus, be they gay or straight.

    I don't know where this came from. I certainly didn't notice anything discouraging couples living together in the emails they sent.

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  • Pants ManPants Man Registered User
    edited May 2008
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Might also be a boon to homosexual students who would be uncomfortable with a same-sex roommate.

    yeah, that i'm totally cool with, and they mention that in the article. i'm not sure how often that's the case, though

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Pants Man wrote: »
    i dunno, even outside of a dorm situation, co ed roomies are often frowned

    Not really. It's very common.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    Pants Man wrote: »
    i dunno, even outside of a dorm situation, co ed roomies are often frowned

    Not really. It's very common.

    How common is it that opposite people of the same sex that aren't in a relationship share the same room though? I know it's common to share say, an apartment with a friend of the opposite sex but it seems like actually rooming with them might be a bit rarer.

  • Pants ManPants Man Registered User
    edited May 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    Pants Man wrote: »
    i dunno, even outside of a dorm situation, co ed roomies are often frowned

    Not really. It's very common.

    depends on how old you are, i think. i guess i was more talking about the 20-25 year old range, where it's definitely not as common as it is once you get older and out of the "college mindset"

    which is why i think this whole idea of a co ed dorm room is pretty iffy

    edit: and kal is right, sharing a dorm room is a hell of a lot different than sharing an apartment.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Pants Man wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    Pants Man wrote: »
    i dunno, even outside of a dorm situation, co ed roomies are often frowned

    Not really. It's very common.

    depends on how old you are, i think. i guess i was more talking about the 20-25 year old range, where it's definitely not as common as it is once you get older and out of the "college mindset"

    which is why i think this whole idea of a co ed dorm room is pretty iffy

    edit: and kal is right, sharing a dorm room is a hell of a lot different than sharing an apartment.

    I'm referring to the 22-30 year range. And uh I don't know what you mean by the last comment...you said "even outside a dorm situation..." which I took to mean post-college and in an apartment...what else falls outside of dorm situation where people room together? Anyway, that's what I was talking about.

    Co-ed rooming is very common. And once you're that age, I think "frowned upon" is kind of silly. By who? Trust me, nobody gives a shit at that point. And it's very common, at least here in New York.

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  • Satan.Satan. __BANNED USERS
    edited May 2008
    I don't get the shock value here, I'm sorry.

  • HenroidHenroid Nobody Nowhere fastRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    As much as an old-fashioned thinker I tend to be, this idea doesn't weird me out at all. I guess because I've slept in the same room as a girl I wasn't dating plenty of times. So I know it can work.

    Then again, I also know there can be sexual tension. It isn't something that can be generalized though. Some people can get over it, and some won't. Some won't even experience it.

    What'd help is a system of meeting your roomie before actually living with them, like some sort of interview or screening process even. Randomly pairing up people is the danger. I've never lived in a college dorm, nor looked into the process of how that's all done even in non-co-ed places, so... is random pairing the prevalent method?

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    In fact, I think I know as many co-ed non-romantic roommate situations here as I know single-gender roommate situations. Often there's a 2-girls-1-guy or 1-girl-2-guys kind of thing too. It's not frowned upon at all.

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  • HenroidHenroid Nobody Nowhere fastRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    And once you're that age, I think "frowned upon" is kind of silly. By who? Trust me, nobody gives a shit at that point. And it's very common, at least here in New York.

    Well, I imagine parents will easily have concern. I'm no parent yet, but thinking about it now, if my daughter was telling me she was going to have a boy as a roomie in her dorm I'd be an adamant prick about it. Or maybe I won't if in her growing up she's displayed herself as being strong willed.

    It's a tricky situation. :P

    (and I was born and raised in California; I'm not that liberal though)

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    remembering my dorm days, living with anyone in the same room be it female or male sucked ass. I'm sure glad that only lasted for 2 years. I don't see anything wrong with co-ed dorm rooms, its more a matter of the quality of living resources like the RAs and the residence organization and how they deal with issues when they inevitably arise.

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  • khainkhain Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    In fact, I think I know as many co-ed non-romantic roommate situations here as I know single-gender roommate situations. Often there's a 2-girls-1-guy or 1-girl-2-guys kind of thing too. It's not frowned upon at all.

    Your talking about people that live in a apartment and each have their own room right Drez?

  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Wait, what? I was under the impression that coed dorms were fairly commonplace, especially in large universities. This isn't the 50's. I don't see how this is a big deal at all. o_O

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Henroid wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    And once you're that age, I think "frowned upon" is kind of silly. By who? Trust me, nobody gives a shit at that point. And it's very common, at least here in New York.

    Well, I imagine parents will easily have concern. I'm no parent yet, but thinking about it now, if my daughter was telling me she was going to have a boy as a roomie in her dorm I'd be an adamant prick about it. Or maybe I won't if in her growing up she's displayed herself as being strong willed.

    It's a tricky situation. :P

    (and I was born and raised in California; I'm not that liberal though)

    I'm talking about 22-30. No offense, but what your parents think about your life choices at that point is very much academic and based on generation-old textbooks.

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  • Pants ManPants Man Registered User
    edited May 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    In fact, I think I know as many co-ed non-romantic roommate situations here as I know single-gender roommate situations. Often there's a 2-girls-1-guy or 1-girl-2-guys kind of thing too. It's not frowned upon at all.

    i disagree, but whatever.


    again, i just don't see how this could work on a large scale with a bunch of horny 18 year olds. and i am more surprised that a college would take the risk that's inherently involved here. if you live in an apartment and decide to live with a person of the opposite sex, that's your choice. but because roommates are assigned by the college, if one of the roommates turns out to be a creep, there's the potential for some huge problems that the college could potentially be liable for.

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  • Pants ManPants Man Registered User
    edited May 2008
    Wait, what? I was under the impression that coed dorms were fairly commonplace, especially in large universities. This isn't the 50's. I don't see how this is a big deal at all. o_O

    co ed ROOMS. read the article, buddy

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    khain wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    In fact, I think I know as many co-ed non-romantic roommate situations here as I know single-gender roommate situations. Often there's a 2-girls-1-guy or 1-girl-2-guys kind of thing too. It's not frowned upon at all.

    Your talking about people that live in a apartment and each have their own room right Drez?

    Usually, yes.

    Again, I was responding to pants man's comment that "outside of a dorm situation" it is still frowned upon.

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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Pants Man wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    In fact, I think I know as many co-ed non-romantic roommate situations here as I know single-gender roommate situations. Often there's a 2-girls-1-guy or 1-girl-2-guys kind of thing too. It's not frowned upon at all.

    i disagree, but whatever.


    again, i just don't see how this could work on a large scale with a bunch of horny 18 year olds. and i am more surprised that a college would take the risk that's inherently involved here. if you live in an apartment and decide to live with a person of the opposite sex, that's your choice. but because roommates are assigned by the college, if one of the roommates turns out to be a creep, there's the potential for some huge problems that the college could potentially be liable for.
    Yeah, if both parties consent, then they enter at their own risk. Not that they are consenting or expecting rape. This is fairly commonplace.

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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Pants Man wrote: »
    Wait, what? I was under the impression that coed dorms were fairly commonplace, especially in large universities. This isn't the 50's. I don't see how this is a big deal at all. o_O

    co ed ROOMS. read the article, buddy
    Wait, what? I was under the impression that coed ROOMS were also fairly commonplace, especially in large universities. This isn't the 50's. I don't see how this is a big deal at all. o_O

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  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Henroid wrote: »
    What'd help is a system of meeting your roomie before actually living with them, like some sort of interview or screening process even. Randomly pairing up people is the danger. I've never lived in a college dorm, nor looked into the process of how that's all done even in non-co-ed places, so... is random pairing the prevalent method?
    I'm pretty sure this system is only for when people choosing their roommates (after freshman year) - a lot of the time people will choose to live with friends they've met during the year. All this does is let that friend be someone of the opposite sex if you want.
    Wait, what? I was under the impression that coed dorms were fairly commonplace, especially in large universities. This isn't the 50's. I don't see how this is a big deal at all. o_O
    This is co-ed rooms, not coed dorms or hallways.

  • Pants ManPants Man Registered User
    edited May 2008
    Pants Man wrote: »
    Wait, what? I was under the impression that coed dorms were fairly commonplace, especially in large universities. This isn't the 50's. I don't see how this is a big deal at all. o_O

    co ed ROOMS. read the article, buddy
    Wait, what? I was under the impression that coed ROOMS were also fairly commonplace, especially in large universities. This isn't the 50's. I don't see how this is a big deal at all. o_O

    seriously, did you read the article? or have ever been to college? or have ever been around teenagers/been a teenager yourself?

    "okay byron, my grandma has a right to be happy, so i give you my blessing. just... don't get her pregnant. i don't need another mom."
  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Pants Man wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    In fact, I think I know as many co-ed non-romantic roommate situations here as I know single-gender roommate situations. Often there's a 2-girls-1-guy or 1-girl-2-guys kind of thing too. It's not frowned upon at all.

    i disagree, but whatever.


    again, i just don't see how this could work on a large scale with a bunch of horny 18 year olds. and i am more surprised that a college would take the risk that's inherently involved here. if you live in an apartment and decide to live with a person of the opposite sex, that's your choice. but because roommates are assigned by the college, if one of the roommates turns out to be a creep, there's the potential for some huge problems that the college could potentially be liable for.

    What do you disagree with? I don't know anyone that frowns upon it. I can't say that nobody frowns upon it - and in fact I'm sure people do - but do you have some kind of survey proving that a majority of people out there frown upon gender-mixed groups of people sharing living quarters? All I have to go on is the fact that this is extremely commonplace in New York and that nobody I know, especially in my generation but also in my parent's generation, thinks much of it. Hell, my GRANDMOTHERS don't really think anything of it. They thought it was interesting, actually, when I was planning on moving in with a female friend.

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  • FarseerBaradasFarseerBaradas Registered User
    edited May 2008
    Pants Man wrote: »
    Wait, what? I was under the impression that coed dorms were fairly commonplace, especially in large universities. This isn't the 50's. I don't see how this is a big deal at all. o_O

    co ed ROOMS. read the article, buddy
    Wait, what? I was under the impression that coed ROOMS were also fairly commonplace, especially in large universities. This isn't the 50's. I don't see how this is a big deal at all. o_O

    Because apparently people like me, college freshmen, can't control ourselves and if we roomed with a girl we'd go crazy with wanting sex.

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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Pants Man wrote: »
    Pants Man wrote: »
    Wait, what? I was under the impression that coed dorms were fairly commonplace, especially in large universities. This isn't the 50's. I don't see how this is a big deal at all. o_O

    co ed ROOMS. read the article, buddy
    Wait, what? I was under the impression that coed ROOMS were also fairly commonplace, especially in large universities. This isn't the 50's. I don't see how this is a big deal at all. o_O

    seriously, did you read the article? or have ever been to college? or have ever been around teenagers/been a teenager yourself?
    See, the point everyone is invariably making is that once you are in college, you are an adult, and fucking responsible for your own actions.

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  • thorgotthorgot Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    My parents lived together when they went to college. And that was a long time ago.

    So I don't see what the big deal is.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Pants Man wrote: »
    Pants Man wrote: »
    Wait, what? I was under the impression that coed dorms were fairly commonplace, especially in large universities. This isn't the 50's. I don't see how this is a big deal at all. o_O

    co ed ROOMS. read the article, buddy
    Wait, what? I was under the impression that coed ROOMS were also fairly commonplace, especially in large universities. This isn't the 50's. I don't see how this is a big deal at all. o_O

    seriously, did you read the article? or have ever been to college? or have ever been around teenagers/been a teenager yourself?

    Have you? I know this isn't directed at me, but you seem to be assuming a great many things that shouldn't be assumed.

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  • Satan.Satan. __BANNED USERS
    edited May 2008
    Pants Man wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    In fact, I think I know as many co-ed non-romantic roommate situations here as I know single-gender roommate situations. Often there's a 2-girls-1-guy or 1-girl-2-guys kind of thing too. It's not frowned upon at all.

    i disagree, but whatever.

    again, i just don't see how this could work on a large scale with a bunch of horny 18 year olds. and i am more surprised that a college would take the risk that's inherently involved here. if you live in an apartment and decide to live with a person of the opposite sex, that's your choice. but because roommates are assigned by the college, if one of the roommates turns out to be a creep, there's the potential for some huge problems that the college could potentially be liable for.

    First, how can you disagree with something Drez knows? Or did you just mean the frowned upon part?

    Are there immature 18 year olds? Yes. Are there immature 40 year olds? Yes. It's not 1950 anymore, and there is enough shielding of young people from the big bad scary world (girls! boys! omigod they're together) as it is. Guy-guy / girl-girl matchups can be just as creepy as guy-girl matchups. The only reason you don't see how it could work is perhaps you aren't mature enough to accept this? I don't mean this as an insult, but it seems this could be an explanation for your extreme resistance to this.

  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Pants Man wrote: »
    Wait, what? I was under the impression that coed dorms were fairly commonplace, especially in large universities. This isn't the 50's. I don't see how this is a big deal at all. o_O

    co ed ROOMS. read the article, buddy
    Wait, what? I was under the impression that coed ROOMS were also fairly commonplace, especially in large universities. This isn't the 50's. I don't see how this is a big deal at all. o_O

    Because apparently people like me, college freshmen, can't control ourselves and if we roomed with a girl we'd go crazy with wanting sex.
    I think the OP may be projecting his own faults upon an entire populace of college-goers. The lol if girl is in room sex I must have lol argument is pretty childish.

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  • FarseerBaradasFarseerBaradas Registered User
    edited May 2008
    Pants Man wrote: »
    Pants Man wrote: »
    Wait, what? I was under the impression that coed dorms were fairly commonplace, especially in large universities. This isn't the 50's. I don't see how this is a big deal at all. o_O

    co ed ROOMS. read the article, buddy
    Wait, what? I was under the impression that coed ROOMS were also fairly commonplace, especially in large universities. This isn't the 50's. I don't see how this is a big deal at all. o_O

    seriously, did you read the article? or have ever been to college? or have ever been around teenagers/been a teenager yourself?
    See, the point everyone is invariably making is that once you are in college, you are an adult, and fucking responsible for your own actions.

    Yeah, I can speak from the experience of being in a dormroom right now that we're responsible, sometimes we have fun and shit, but we can control ourselves.

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  • Mike DangerMike Danger "Diane..." a place both wonderful and strangeRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I was more stunned by the fact that the school I'm going to (Clark) offers this than the fact that it is occurring.

    Honestly, I wouldn't want to date my roommate if I was in this situation. Too awkward, methinks.

  • Pants ManPants Man Registered User
    edited May 2008
    Satan. wrote: »
    Pants Man wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    In fact, I think I know as many co-ed non-romantic roommate situations here as I know single-gender roommate situations. Often there's a 2-girls-1-guy or 1-girl-2-guys kind of thing too. It's not frowned upon at all.

    i disagree, but whatever.

    again, i just don't see how this could work on a large scale with a bunch of horny 18 year olds. and i am more surprised that a college would take the risk that's inherently involved here. if you live in an apartment and decide to live with a person of the opposite sex, that's your choice. but because roommates are assigned by the college, if one of the roommates turns out to be a creep, there's the potential for some huge problems that the college could potentially be liable for.

    First, how can you disagree with something Drez knows? Or did you just mean the frowned upon part?

    Are there immature 18 year olds? Yes. Are there immature 40 year olds? Yes. It's not 1950 anymore, and there is enough shielding of young people from the big bad scary world (girls! boys! omigod they're together) as it is. Guy-guy / girl-girl matchups can be just as creepy as guy-girl matchups. The only reason you don't see how it could work is perhaps you aren't mature enough to accept this? I don't mean this as an insult, but it seems this could be an explanation for your extreme resistance to this.

    okay, a few things:

    i know the opposite of what drez is saying just as much as he knows it. it's a statement of opinion, not fact. i'm sure i KNOW just as many people as he does that think differently about the subject than he does. not to mention that it's only marginally related to the topic at hand because they're two different situations.

    secondly: arguing that 50 year olds are on the whole any way comparable to the maturity level of 18 year olds? really? REALLY?

    lastly, read the OP. i said that if the students are mature enough to handle this, this would be fine and great, like the situation in the article. my problem is that colleges are going to have some kind of liability in this if something goes wrong AND the fact that college freshman are generally looking to get laid and drunk. are all of them? no. but let's stop with the retarded "NUH UH I AM TOTALLY MATURE SEE YOU ARE WRONG" crap.

    "okay byron, my grandma has a right to be happy, so i give you my blessing. just... don't get her pregnant. i don't need another mom."
  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I think the crux of the issue is that you are acting like someone from the Victorian era.

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  • FarseerBaradasFarseerBaradas Registered User
    edited May 2008
    Pants Man wrote: »

    okay, a few things:

    i know the opposite of what drez is saying just as much as he knows it. it's a statement of opinion, not fact. i'm sure i KNOW just as many people as he does that think differently than he does. not to mention that it's only marginally related to the topic at hand because they're two different situations.

    secondly: arguing that 50 year olds are on the whole any way comparable to the maturity level of 18 year olds? really? REALLY?

    lastly, read the OP. i said that if the students are mature enough to handle this, this would be fine and great, like the situation in the article. my problem is that colleges are going to have some kind of liability in this if something goes wrong AND the fact that college freshman are generally looking to get laid and drunk. are all of them? no. but let's stop with the retarded "NUH UH I AM TOTALLY MATURE SEE YOU ARE WRONG" crap.

    Dude, I'm in college RIGHT NOW and we're responsible enough to not fuck our room mate. Yes, we drink, yes we try to get laid but I really don't see how this makes coed dorm rooms horrible. NEWS FLASH: Teenage males can indeed go long periods of time without trying to screw anything that moves.

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  • Pants ManPants Man Registered User
    edited May 2008
    I think the crux of the issue is that you are acting like someone from the Victorian era.

    either that, or you guys are placing most of your argument in the hands of 18 and 19 year olds, most of whom are living on their own for the first time.

    which is hilarious.

    "okay byron, my grandma has a right to be happy, so i give you my blessing. just... don't get her pregnant. i don't need another mom."
  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Pants Man wrote: »
    I think the crux of the issue is that you are acting like someone from the Victorian era.

    either that, or you guys are placing most of your argument in the hands of 18 and 19 year olds, most of whom are living on their own for the first time.

    which is hilarious.
    Nope, pretty sure we aren't.

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  • FarseerBaradasFarseerBaradas Registered User
    edited May 2008
    Pants Man wrote: »
    I think the crux of the issue is that you are acting like someone from the Victorian era.

    either that, or you guys are placing most of your argument in the hands of 18 and 19 year olds, most of whom are living on their own for the first time.

    which is hilarious.

    Well, since 18 and 19 year olds are the ones you are saying aren't mature enough, I don't see why my opinion and observations of college as a 19 year old are invalid.

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  • Pants ManPants Man Registered User
    edited May 2008
    Dude, I'm in college RIGHT NOW and we're responsible enough to not fuck our room mate. Yes, we drink, yes we try to get laid but I really don't see how this makes coed dorm rooms horrible. NEWS FLASH: Teenage males can indeed go long periods of time without trying to screw anything that moves.

    hooray for you and your roommate

    look, i'm not saying all freshmen are stupid and horny and looking to get drunk. but a lot of them are, and if you don't think there'd be more problems with a 1000 coed dorm rooms compared with a 1000 single sex dorm rooms, you're out of your mind.

    "okay byron, my grandma has a right to be happy, so i give you my blessing. just... don't get her pregnant. i don't need another mom."
  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Pants Man wrote: »
    Dude, I'm in college RIGHT NOW and we're responsible enough to not fuck our room mate. Yes, we drink, yes we try to get laid but I really don't see how this makes coed dorm rooms horrible. NEWS FLASH: Teenage males can indeed go long periods of time without trying to screw anything that moves.

    hooray for you and your roommate

    look, i'm not saying all freshmen are stupid and horny and looking to get drunk. but a lot of them are, and if you don't think there'd be more problems with a 1000 coed dorm rooms compared with a 1000 single sex dorm rooms, you're out of your mind.
    The thing is, we are not okay with your broad sweeping generalities and the implications they entail. So find a new, cogent argument and try again. Your fallacies just continue to detract from your waning point.

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  • FarseerBaradasFarseerBaradas Registered User
    edited May 2008
    Pants Man wrote: »
    Dude, I'm in college RIGHT NOW and we're responsible enough to not fuck our room mate. Yes, we drink, yes we try to get laid but I really don't see how this makes coed dorm rooms horrible. NEWS FLASH: Teenage males can indeed go long periods of time without trying to screw anything that moves.

    hooray for you and your roommate

    look, i'm not saying all freshmen are stupid and horny and looking to get drunk. but a lot of them are, and if you don't think there'd be more problems with a 1000 coed dorm rooms compared with a 1000 single sex dorm rooms, you're out of your mind.

    I really don't think there'd be a huge problem, or even many more problems with coed vs. single sex.

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