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Soooo . . . the PonyStars virtual pony-pet game is using art from a different pony game, PonyIsland.net. PonyIsland has been around since 2003, players pay for accounts (it's not free), and it's based in Sweden, although most players are American.
Examples of copied artwork:
Those are pretty obvious, but others are more subtle examples of tracing, with more alterations. From the pose and to some extent the hair I can tell these are copied, even though changes have been made:
There is also a website called Poney Vallee. Poney Vallee appears to be identical to Acclaim's PonyStars (down to the background) which makes me think that Acclaim worked out a deal with Poney Vallee or bought the rights to Poney Vallee, or something like that. So Acclaim may have no idea that PonyStars' pictures are traced/copied.
My question is . . . is it considered copyright infringement even though some of the pictures have been altered slightly (the dragon pony and the butterfly pony)? How about the pictures that have been altered more, like the pony with translucent wings turned into a pegasus?
If it is copyright infringement, what would you suggest the owners of PonyIsland and/or the person who drew the artwork for them do? Do you think a simple letter to Acclaim would clear this up, or not?
I am neither an owner of PonyIsland nor the artist, but I know them and would be happy to pass advice along to them. I know it's just a game, but . . . it's a game that the creators worked long and hard to create. This bothers me, especially since a real game company like Acclaim is involved.
Well for starters, assembling a complete list of all the questionable copies/tracings, doing the side-by-side thing like this, would be the first thing to do. Then I'd get in touch with Acclaim (whether they got the art from Poney Vallee or "made" it themselves, they're probably legally responsible either way) and show them what you found. I wouldn't go off accusing them just yet, just get an official response and see what's going on.
If they didn't have permission to buy/recreate this stuff and they wind up being unwilling to figure things out, I'd just send these lovely ponies to Kotaku and go from there. Cuz, I mean, the similarities are pretty damn obvious.
The comic book legal defence fund may had some advice regarding plagerism. Keep in mind that since it isn't a comic book and it's based around donations the best you could hope from them is maybe someone pointing you in the right direction.
This is actually a fairly good primer on copyright law.
Disclaimer: IANAL. The section of copyright law you're probably concerned about here is the right to create derivative works. A copyright holder retains the exclusive right to create derivative works, (and, of course, the right to grant, or license this right to others). This is why, for example, it's not permitted to create Harry Potter slash fiction and such. Here, it would seem that you've identified a case where one company is creating derivative works of another company's, potentially without permission. This is likely actionable.
Of course, this isn't necessarily the case. Maybe both of them derive from a different work that is in the public domain or under a creative commons license. Maybe they have a licensing agreement. Who knows? I would inform the first company's legal department and let them handle it.
This is actually a fairly good primer on copyright law.
Disclaimer: IANAL. The section of copyright law you're probably concerned about here is the right to create derivative works. A copyright holder retains the exclusive right to create derivative works, (and, of course, the right to grant, or license this right to others). This is why, for example, it's not permitted to create Harry Potter slash fiction and such. Here, it would seem that you've identified a case where one company is creating derivative works of another company's, potentially without permission. This is likely actionable.
Of course, this isn't necessarily the case. Maybe both of them derive from a different work that is in the public domain or under a creative commons license. Maybe they have a licensing agreement. Who knows? I would inform the first company's legal department and let them handle it.
Heed this advice. You may also want to look into the license terms of the first site, as it may be under a license (such as Creative Commons) that allow for derivative works to be published.
Maybe both of them derive from a different work that is in the public domain or under a creative commons license. Maybe they have a licensing agreement. Who knows?
No, they definitely don't. I know who drew the artwork. She made it specifically for PonyIsland, which has not sold or distributed the work to other sites.
If you look at the forums, I think someone mentioned finding some watermarks for Pony Vallee in some of the art that was removed later. So you're probably right on your guess. http://phpbb.acclaim.com/ponystars/viewtopic.php?t=20
It should also be pointed out that Acclaim Entertainment went bust, and their name got bought out, so the new company isn't actually anything to do with the old company.
I would wager that Acclaim bought the rights to use it in the US. I'm pretty sure that they were planning bunch of online games, most of which were not originals - they were going to import some of the popular overseas ones. My guess would be that this is one of those imported games.
A lot of the art on Ponystars looks familiar. They seem to be copied from a lot of fan artists. I found one sample that looks a lot like Hasbro's packaging art for My Little Pony.
It's all completely derivative of My Little Pony, let's keep that in mind, but at least there isn't also an identical game put out by Hasbro that is being ripped off by a significantly larger corporation.
IT'S GOT ME REACHING IN MY POCKET IT'S GOT ME FORKING OVER CASH
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
It's all completely derivative of My Little Pony, let's keep that in mind, but at least there isn't also an identical game put out by Hasbro that is being ripped off by a significantly larger corporation.
This is true, but from what I understand, the original game (PonyIsland) came to an agreement with Hasbro. I'm not sure the same can be said for Acclaim's copycat game.
The real issue, though, is that the work of an independent artist is being used by a corporation without her permission.
Hi, I'm Lady Roxy. I found this thread by accident and I'm a PI player. Meaning a Ponyisland player. I just registered and I am willing to tell the admins of PI this if you would let me. It will take less than a few min to paste and copy all this, and don't worry, this'll be resolved hopefully eventually.
Yeah. Im a PI (PonyIsland) Usr too, Roxy put me on to this, I just cant believe this!
LunaCat and the other artists all worked SO hard on these pics, why do people have to do this!
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If they didn't have permission to buy/recreate this stuff and they wind up being unwilling to figure things out, I'd just send these lovely ponies to Kotaku and go from there. Cuz, I mean, the similarities are pretty damn obvious.
Do what Houk said.
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
Satans..... hints..... I'm a mo bro!
Disclaimer: IANAL. The section of copyright law you're probably concerned about here is the right to create derivative works. A copyright holder retains the exclusive right to create derivative works, (and, of course, the right to grant, or license this right to others). This is why, for example, it's not permitted to create Harry Potter slash fiction and such. Here, it would seem that you've identified a case where one company is creating derivative works of another company's, potentially without permission. This is likely actionable.
Of course, this isn't necessarily the case. Maybe both of them derive from a different work that is in the public domain or under a creative commons license. Maybe they have a licensing agreement. Who knows? I would inform the first company's legal department and let them handle it.
Heed this advice. You may also want to look into the license terms of the first site, as it may be under a license (such as Creative Commons) that allow for derivative works to be published.
No, they definitely don't. I know who drew the artwork. She made it specifically for PonyIsland, which has not sold or distributed the work to other sites.
I will definitely check out the link!
It should also be pointed out that Acclaim Entertainment went bust, and their name got bought out, so the new company isn't actually anything to do with the old company.
select your lawyer, and then, select your subpoena.
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word, I was thinking when I first glanced at the ponystars site that they looked nearly identical to my little pony's...
OMG PWNIES!!1!
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
This is true, but from what I understand, the original game (PonyIsland) came to an agreement with Hasbro. I'm not sure the same can be said for Acclaim's copycat game.
The real issue, though, is that the work of an independent artist is being used by a corporation without her permission.
OMG PWNIES!!1!
~Lady Roxy
LunaCat and the other artists all worked SO hard on these pics, why do people have to do this!