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I'm talking about the whole shebang, but more on the oral side, as that's the part that needs skill. Guys can , of course, more-or-less masturbate into a vagina, but that's not a skill.
Interestingly, both sexes tend to discover masturbation as toddlers about equally. (Although I'm not hunting for the study I read this in; that's not a search string I want connected to me. D:) There's a lot more information available to guys in the cultural consciousness, though, so learning the technique when they're older is probably easier. I mean, even 10-year-olds know that that beating-off motion = male masturbation; it's featured pretty often on tv, even if just from the waist up, and "jerk-off" is a pretty common term. Female masturbation, however, is much more under-the-rug (:winky:) and barely ever referenced in pop culture.
Silly personal anecdote time: for ages, I didn't know female masturbation had a name. I called it "billying" for some reason and thought I invented it.
Actually yes. There is a complementary fetish to virginity fetish. The cuckold fetish. In fact, I think I've heard of virginity fetishes morphing into cuckold fetishes. A sort of coping mechanism.
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Well, the thing is, male genitalia is pretty self-explanatory. Female genitalia isn't quite so obvious. It doesn't take much imagination or persistence to figure out what to do with a penis (though I'm sure you can achieve greater payoffs if you invested the effort), but even just finding the clitoris could take some patience.
I'm kind of curious how much of that is just the amount of ignorance about female genitalia in general. My brothers were told the correct names for their junk (penis and scrotum) basically as soon as they could talk, but I was taught to call my whole genital area "vagina." It's a lot harder to "find" your clit if you don't know that you have one, or that women masturbate at all!
Not necessarily. There's plenty of people who consider themselves virgins while still having risky oral and anal sex.
And if you can't ask potentially awkward questions, you shouldn't be having sex.
That's all true enough.
I forgot about that.
Holy shit golded for absolute truth.
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I certainly agree with you about the lack of education about female genitalia, but I still think that, even given a completely naive person, he or she would know what you're supposed to do with a penis just by looking at it. Form follows function and all that, you know.
@ Loren, STDs is definitely a good reason, but I don't really think that the questions have to be awkward. If I ever broke up with my boyfriend and started dating other people, I would tell them to go get tested for all the STDs under the sun before I'm willing to take my top off. And I wouldn't feel awkward or embarrassed about this, I'm just taking logical precaution to protect my own health. We're adults now and so should be able to communicate openly about practical things like this.
She lied to me.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/11/iraq.humanrights
So talking to a foreigner = losing virginity to this guy.
D:
Of course this probably depends on what she's good at too, but the same is equally applicable for guys as well.
Yep, that is what fundie Islam is, people. These people are insane beyond redemption.
Come on, they were Zoo readers. Most of them are 14. But yeah, disturbing and also they can go to hell.
Somehow I don't think that christians and other morally 'upright' types comprise the main readership demographic of Zoo or any other lad magazine, sweetie.
Sounds like someone isn't Catholic.
Oh hey, I broke what little hymen I had myself because I didn't want my first time to be associated with blood and pain (awkwardness is quite enough kthnx). Does that make me a trollop?
Because trollop is an awesome word.
I certainly hope that you read the posts where I did my best to make my points clear on exactly what I meant. I don't have the time nor the energy to retype them a third time so please go back and read before you blow my statements out of proportion to argue a point that isn't being made by me.
EDIT: Double your points if you married her.
Assign bonus points if you've had children together.
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But virgins are stupid when it comes to sex.
I had no idea what the fuck I was doing before I had sex. I had no idea what it took to be a mature, responsible sexual partner. That's because you learn this shit as you go along. You don't read about it in a magazine, you don't get the hang of it from porn (please god no). You learn by doing, making mistakes, learning from them.
That is why I definitely, 100% do not want to marry a virgin. I mean holy shit. Chick could be into, like, ball-crushing as the only way she gets off. Sure, it's highly unlikely that she'll discover that, but you have no idea what even your own preferences are until you try them.
The only thing I really remember from my first time was that it hurt. They never tell you it can hurt for guys. And since that was my focus, I know I wasn't very good.
o_O Did you bend it wrong or something? I've heard guys say their first time was quite fast, but never that it hurt them.
Oh look someone who read the title of the thread and didn't bother to read the thread. Congratulations you win the dumbshit award for the day. Go to SE++ to collect your prize.
Well, I never said that they made up the majority, or even a significant minority, just that some of them probably were. But thanks for being patronizing.