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The American Presidency: This Thread Is 'Inartful'.
tuxkamen
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTSLBjA2R0w
And from Connecticut via kos:
Do you approve or disapprove of the way Joseph Lieberman is handling his job as United States senator?
Approve 45 (52)
Disapprove 43 (35)
That's a 15-point downward swing in support, from +17 approval to +2.
The crosstabs:
First Read wrote:He did not answer the first part of the question directly and later Obama, who said he had not spoken with Clark, seemed to bristle when asked why he had not talked with him and whether he felt the former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO owed McCain an apology, suggesting voters had more pressing matters on their minds.
"I guess my question is why, given all the vast numbers of things that we've got to work on, that that would be a top priority of mine?” he said. “I think that, you know, right now we're here to talk about how we can make sure that kids in Zanesville and across Ohio get the kind of support that they need and communities that are impoverished can start to rebuild. I'm happy to have all sorts of conversations about how we deal with Iraq and what happens with Iran, but the fact that somebody on a cable show or on a news show like Gen. Clark said something that was inartful about Sen. McCain I don’t think is probably the thing that is keeping Ohioans up at night."
And from Connecticut via kos:
Do you approve or disapprove of the way Joseph Lieberman is handling his job as United States senator?
Approve 45 (52)
Disapprove 43 (35)
That's a 15-point downward swing in support, from +17 approval to +2.
The crosstabs:
[FONT=Courier New] Tot Rep Dem Ind [/FONT] [FONT=Courier New]Approve 45 70 26 47 [/FONT] [FONT=Courier New]Disapprove 43 18 62 39[/FONT]
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Oh come on, he chased down some guys who had crashed into his fence with an AR-15.
NOW THAT'S cross party appeal.
Voinovich.
Aaand 'inartful' is the new 'dumb'.
OK, now you're just being silly.
Yeah I got nothing.
McCain's VP is going to be economics strong since that is a perceived weakness of his that he can't shake, so whoever Obama picks is going to need to be able to go toe to toe with that guy in a debate as well as in an attack dog role to ensure that Laffer Curve, Laffer Curve, olol doesn't fly.
Let it be known I don't really like any of these options.
What the hell does a green wristband represent?
And why do people still wear wristbands?
Who had you been supporting previously?
Kinesleyan gaffes are still gaffes.
Don't diss wristbands
They're really catching on.
At least you spelled Sebelius's name correctly, as mtv seems incapable of doing.
Schwietzer. Webb before his chicks-in-the-military comments were released. I still like Clark, but that won't happen now.
Man that is one messed up looking token.
pleasepaypreacher.net
what is it, 2010?
On Clark: It's not hypocritical for him to have praised Kerry's service in 2004 and said that McCain's service doesn't apply to being president because he's talking about two seperate things. He freely acknowledges that military experiences grant character and courage that are things that are looked for by voters. In that way, both Kerry and McCain's military experiences are applicable. The very narrow focus that Clark was actually embracing (and doing a horrible job of enunciating) is that McCain is touting his POW-dom as a factor to his credit in strategic and foreign policy decisions, and Clark is explaining that you only earn that particular sort of XP from theatre-level command, such as General Clark had, where you're pushing cool little miniatures around on a map and deciding what troops need to be put in danger and what local warlords need to be appeased so that all the missions get accomplished. It's clear to me that he's taking on the specific claim that McCain touts, not his overall experience.
On faith-based initiatives: Some clarification is in order. The government money is only usable for the specific charitable programs, and any human resources hired out of the government's money pot cannot be hired based on faith or lack of same. If an athiest is clearly best for the job, and Those Fucking Unitarians hire a Unitarian for their gay & lesbian outreach program, then the athiest can petition the Office of Faith-Based Initiatives to investigate and rectify the situation. The money also cannot be used for proselytization purposes. The reason the Bush OoF-BI sucked is because it had no oversight and they were using it to give handouts to Bush-serving fundie wack-jobs like Sun Myung Moon (the money probably went to prop up the Washington Times, now that I think about it). I seem to remember that David Kuo had an awesome appearance on The Daily Show about this stuff. If Obama fixes the office and implements the level of transparency that he's (ahem) clearly interested in implementing, it will be fucking difficult for a cloned Cheney homonculus or whatever the Republicans send up to the White House next to dismantle without looking extra, extra sketchy.
The benefit of using churches is that it utilizes existing infrastructure, so it's cost-effective. We like cost-effective, yes? Also, y'all don't seem to be up-in-arms over the fact that churches are already essentially subsidized by the government because they pay no taxes.
Finally, in closing...
2012
gayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
My urge to kill was held back only by the knowledge that he wasn't old enough to vote yet.
I'm getting so burned out on politics; any time someone brings up the subject I end up spending 90% of the conversation correcting misinformation and outright ignorance. I guess I should be happy that people are actively seeking me out as a source of political knowledge, but god dammit people can we talk about something other than omg-secret-muslim?
I hate living in west Michigan [strike]sometimes[/strike] pretty much all the time. I can only hope the level of discussion around here goes up a few notches once the campaign season is in full swing.
[Edit] - I switched my vote from Richardson in the last round to Sebelius in this one. For some stupid reason I can't put my finger on, I reallly like Bill Richardson even though I disagree with him on several big points. I wish I knew what it was so I could purge it from my brain and embrace the cold unfeeling logic that tells me I agree with Sebelius more.
This video really puts into perspective a few things:
1) The MSM really, really hates down time
2) Military fetishism in this country is really out of hand
3) Republicans (and really, a lot of MSM talking heads) need to learn to read and/or completely listen to people, and maybe try not thinking the worst of people.
4) Where the fuck is this so-called liberal media when you need it?
5) McCainophiles are really scared of people getting the main idea of Clark's statement in their heads.
And, seriously, there are way too many causes with wristbands. I'm surprised I don't have one that donates money to me to help pay for gas, food, and games.
I hate to admit thats what prompted me to vote for joe this go round.
pleasepaypreacher.net
I was about to post that. Yay media!
The fact that being a muslim is considered a negative at all is probably the most discouraging aspect of it. It shouldn't fucking matter in the first place, but oh noes terrorist cells in the legislature!!! Grah!
I think that statement is applicable to people in general. I didn't see the left lining up to pore over the context of McCain's "100 years" comment, for example.
That he doesn't mind if we have a permanent military presence in the Middle East, which is a really fucking stupid thing to do?
Agreed, and the most frustrating aspect for me is deciding which aspect of the argument to lead with - "He's not a Muslim" or "What the fuck does it matter anyway?"
He got an opportunity to adequately explain himself on The Daily Show, and he did so pretty well (He seems to speak better off-the-cuff than in a prewritten speech, which oddly enough is basically the exact opposite of Obama). I mean, if you want to say that The Daily Show isn't part of the left-leaning liberal media or whatever, that's fine I guess.
Several people here mocked those who took it out of context and also called McCain stupid for wanting a sustained troop presence in the middle east for 100 years full on Euro-zone peace or asplosions regardless.
Besides, I sorta thought that conservatives didn't like the notion of an American empire overseas. America First, Balkans 895th! Or something.
Nah, that he's somehow bellicose or that all things being equal, he'd prefer it.
You can't be stealing our governor. We're not done with him yet.