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BamaBama Registered User regular
edited July 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
Hmm, couldn't find the new thread button there for a second.

Bama on
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  • ChurchChurch Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Speaking of goths, VTMB is finished installing. Whee.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Death Metal is not goth

  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    Church wrote: »
    Unless we're talking about actual ethnic goths, it totally is. Who is and who is not a goth is determined by who does and does not call themselves "goth".

    Right, except at a goth club, there are going to be a lot of people who call themselves goths that do the same thing. Piercings, tattoos, not just black clothes but a specific style of clothing, makeup; these are all things that goths have/wear that I don't. There's definitely a sense of "who's more hardcore", even if it's not vocalized. That's the issue; I'm far from hardcore gothwise. I'll be a little more comfortable in the bondage room, though, so who knows.

    I just told her I'd come, so we'll see what it's like.
    If you don't believe Church you're a liar.

    Hehe, I remember that conversation.

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  • JamesJames Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Also, Goths, like many other subcultures, share an ideology.

  • AlectharAlecthar Alan Shore We're not territorial about that sort of thing, are we?Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Gooey wrote: »
    So today my boss requested that we put our vacation time on his outlook calendar since we're a virtual team and it can be hard to know who is out and who is in.


    So I did the mature thing and booked 5 months of vacation to North Korea. He accepted. I wonder when he'll notice.

    Does it matter? You'll be in North Kor-

    Oh

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  • BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Gooey wrote: »
    So today my boss requested that we put our vacation time on his outlook calendar since we're a virtual team and it can be hard to know who is out and who is in.


    So I did the mature thing and booked 5 months of vacation to North Korea. He accepted. I wonder when he'll notice.
    Probably three weeks after they ship your silly ass to Pyongyang.

    "Despite all the bitching, if Diablo 3 sucks, I will eat my own cock. Counter-claim: If Diablo 3 does not suck, I will have a list of whiners who need to eat cocks." - Zen Vulgarity
  • ChurchChurch Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    Church wrote: »
    Unless we're talking about actual ethnic goths, it totally is. Who is and who is not a goth is determined by who does and does not call themselves "goth".

    Right, except at a goth club, there are going to be a lot of people who call themselves goths that do the same thing. Piercings, tattoos, not just black clothes but a specific style of clothing, makeup; these are all things that goths have/wear that I don't. There's definitely a sense of "who's more hardcore", even if it's not vocalized. That's the issue; I'm far from hardcore gothwise. I'll be a little more comfortable in the bondage room, though, so who knows.

    I just told her I'd come, so we'll see what it's like.
    If you don't believe Church you're a liar.

    Hehe, I remember that conversation.

    Really, do you? Funny, that, since nobody besides Dynagrip has ever said anything like that to my knowledge.

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  • ChurchChurch Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Death Metal is not goth

    See, that's the thing, lots of people say it is. And it's difficult to determine whether it is or isn't because the word goth doesn't mean anything.

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  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    VH, just talk/act like Chris Kattan in those old SNL skits. You'll be fine.


    Seriously though, Goths are kindof silly. Most subcultures are, for that matter.

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  • wazillawazilla Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Yay! Azureus Vuze is now useful!

  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Church wrote: »
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    Church wrote: »
    Unless we're talking about actual ethnic goths, it totally is. Who is and who is not a goth is determined by who does and does not call themselves "goth".

    Right, except at a goth club, there are going to be a lot of people who call themselves goths that do the same thing. Piercings, tattoos, not just black clothes but a specific style of clothing, makeup; these are all things that goths have/wear that I don't. There's definitely a sense of "who's more hardcore", even if it's not vocalized. That's the issue; I'm far from hardcore gothwise. I'll be a little more comfortable in the bondage room, though, so who knows.

    I just told her I'd come, so we'll see what it's like.
    If you don't believe Church you're a liar.

    Hehe, I remember that conversation.

    Really, do you? Funny, that, since nobody besides Dynagrip has ever said anything like that to my knowledge.
    Hmmm. There's a chance it wasn't you, but I don't know who else it would be. I distinctly remember somebody arguing that not believing what they said meant that we, the nonbelievers, were liars. It was a pretty entertaining conversation if I recall.

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  • DynagripDynagrip destroy everything you touch Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    Church wrote: »
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    Church wrote: »
    Unless we're talking about actual ethnic goths, it totally is. Who is and who is not a goth is determined by who does and does not call themselves "goth".

    Right, except at a goth club, there are going to be a lot of people who call themselves goths that do the same thing. Piercings, tattoos, not just black clothes but a specific style of clothing, makeup; these are all things that goths have/wear that I don't. There's definitely a sense of "who's more hardcore", even if it's not vocalized. That's the issue; I'm far from hardcore gothwise. I'll be a little more comfortable in the bondage room, though, so who knows.

    I just told her I'd come, so we'll see what it's like.
    If you don't believe Church you're a liar.

    Hehe, I remember that conversation.

    Really, do you? Funny, that, since nobody besides Dynagrip has ever said anything like that to my knowledge.
    alter reality with your mind powers!

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  • DynagripDynagrip destroy everything you touch Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    Church wrote: »
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    Church wrote: »
    Unless we're talking about actual ethnic goths, it totally is. Who is and who is not a goth is determined by who does and does not call themselves "goth".

    Right, except at a goth club, there are going to be a lot of people who call themselves goths that do the same thing. Piercings, tattoos, not just black clothes but a specific style of clothing, makeup; these are all things that goths have/wear that I don't. There's definitely a sense of "who's more hardcore", even if it's not vocalized. That's the issue; I'm far from hardcore gothwise. I'll be a little more comfortable in the bondage room, though, so who knows.

    I just told her I'd come, so we'll see what it's like.
    If you don't believe Church you're a liar.

    Hehe, I remember that conversation.

    Really, do you? Funny, that, since nobody besides Dynagrip has ever said anything like that to my knowledge.
    Hmmm. There's a chance it wasn't you, but I don't know who else it would be. I distinctly remember somebody arguing that not believing what they said meant that we, the nonbelievers, were liars. It was a pretty entertaining conversation if I recall.

    It was Church with regards to people calling his elaborate backstory into question.

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  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
  • ElkiElki hegemon globalSuper Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited July 2008
    James wrote: »
    Also, Goths, like many other subcultures, share an ideology.

    Is it lameness? Huh? Is it?

  • JamesJames Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Church wrote: »
    Death Metal is not goth

    See, that's the thing, lots of people say it is. And it's difficult to determine whether it is or isn't because the word goth doesn't mean anything.

    The word goth means something to those who are goths or to those improperly being labeled as goths who do not appreciate being labeled as such.

    It doesn't mean anything from an etic perspective when you're ignorant to the differences between subcultures.

  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Dyna, I think I might try to get some people together to go see TDK at the Imax this weekend, you interested?

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  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Hahaha, Church, you just brought it up again only 4 months ago!

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  • ChurchChurch Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    James wrote: »
    Church wrote: »
    Death Metal is not goth

    See, that's the thing, lots of people say it is. And it's difficult to determine whether it is or isn't because the word goth doesn't mean anything.

    The word goth means something to those who are goths or to those improperly being labeled as goths who do not appreciate being labeled as such.

    It doesn't mean anything from an etic perspective when you're ignorant to the differences between subcultures.

    There is nothing that defines the word "goth" in an objective sense. Therefore it means whatever it is attached to. And from what I can see, the only common denominator between everyone that is labeled or labels themselves "goth" is wearing black.

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  • DynagripDynagrip destroy everything you touch Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    Gooey wrote: »
    Dyna, I think I might try to get some people together to go see TDK at the Imax this weekend, you interested?

    yeah, I might be. let me check my schedule. gotta take a stupid driver safety course thing on saturday.

    Edit: meaning I'm interested but I might not be able to.

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  • JamesJames Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Elki wrote: »
    James wrote: »
    Also, Goths, like many other subcultures, share an ideology.

    Is it lameness? Huh? Is it?

    It could be, I don't actually know.

  • ChurchChurch Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Hahaha, Church, you just brought it up again only 4 months ago!

    Yeah, but nowhere there do I say "You're lying if you don't believe me".

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  • ProtoProto Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Elki wrote: »
    James wrote: »
    Also, Goths, like many other subcultures, share an ideology.

    Is it lameness? Huh? Is it?

    it's wearing trenchcoats at all times, no matter how inappropriate they may be.

    and her knees up on the glove compartment
    took out her barrettes and her hair spilled out like rootbeer
  • wazillawazilla Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Elki wrote: »
    James wrote: »
    Also, Goths, like many other subcultures, share an ideology.

    Is it lameness? Huh? Is it?

    It's the dancing/cig smoking.

  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Church wrote: »
    Hahaha, Church, you just brought it up again only 4 months ago!

    Yeah, but nowhere there do I say "You're lying if you don't believe me".

    man, what?
    You call me a liar, but in so doing you are, in fact, speaking an untruth. Lying, you could say. You are a liar.


    That's pretty much "You're a liar because you don't believe me"

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  • stiliststilist Registered User
    edited July 2008
    When hands of blue are foolin’ you.

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  • ChurchChurch Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Gooey wrote: »
    Church wrote: »
    Hahaha, Church, you just brought it up again only 4 months ago!

    Yeah, but nowhere there do I say "You're lying if you don't believe me".

    man, what?

    Saying "I don't believe you are telling the truth" is entirely different from saying "You're not telling the truth".

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  • DynagripDynagrip destroy everything you touch Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    Hahaha, Church, you just brought it up again only 4 months ago!

    the search function is lying.

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  • Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    If on a checklist of things I need to bring on my trip, two of the things it says are:

    Daypack

    and

    Traveling Backpack

    What's what, and what's different, and what one do I actually have already?

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  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I am part of the "jeans and t-shirts and also hats sometimes" subculture, whatever name that has.

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  • wazillawazilla Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Church wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    Church wrote: »
    Hahaha, Church, you just brought it up again only 4 months ago!

    Yeah, but nowhere there do I say "You're lying if you don't believe me".

    man, what?

    Saying "I don't believe you are telling the truth" is entirely different from saying "You're not telling the truth".
    Not entirely.

  • ChurchChurch Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Gooey wrote: »
    You call me a liar, but in so doing you are, in fact, speaking an untruth. Lying, you could say. You are a liar.


    That's pretty much "You're a liar because you don't believe me"

    No, that's "You're a liar because you're saying something that isn't true."

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  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Oh wait, the original discussion was only a month before that:

    http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=51183&page=69

    This is in the middle of the discussion, I didn't feel like finding the beginning of that argument.

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  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    If on a checklist of things I need to bring on my trip, two of the things it says are:

    Daypack

    and

    Traveling Backpack

    What's what, and what's different, and what one do I actually have already?

    What kind of trip is it?

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  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
  • stiliststilist Registered User
    edited July 2008
    Gooey wrote: »
    I am part of the "jeans and t-shirts and also hats sometimes" subculture, whatever name that has.
    Hats are pretty lame.

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  • ChurchChurch Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Gooey wrote: »
    church u so rad

    Yep.

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  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    stilist wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    I am part of the "jeans and t-shirts and also hats sometimes" subculture, whatever name that has.
    Hats are pretty lame.

    We are more hardcore than you

    our shirts have witty sayings and our jeans are frayed and have holes in the knees.

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  • BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    stilist wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    I am part of the "jeans and t-shirts and also hats sometimes" subculture, whatever name that has.
    Hats are pretty lame.
    Seconded

    [tiny]I'm just jealous because my freakish head will not aesthetically support a hat[/tiny]

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  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Church wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    You call me a liar, but in so doing you are, in fact, speaking an untruth. Lying, you could say. You are a liar.


    That's pretty much "You're a liar because you don't believe me"

    No, that's "You're a liar because you're saying something that isn't true."

    No, it really isn't. He called you a liar. In other words, he doesn't believe you. You called him a liar for him not believing you.

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