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[Space] WhiteKnightTwo rolls out

Zilla360Zilla360 Spaaaace!In Space.Registered User regular
edited July 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
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"(Virgin Galactic) - WhiteKnightTwo launch vehicle for SpaceShipTwo heralds a new era in aerospace fuel efficiency, performance and versatility

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Mojave Air and Spaceport, California

Virgin Founder, Sir Richard Branson and SpaceShipOne designer, Burt Rutan, today pulled back the hangar doors on the new WhiteKnightTwo (WK2) carrier aircraft that will ferry SpaceShipTwo and thousands of private astronauts, science packages and payload on the first stage of the Virgin Galactic sub-orbital space experience."
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So incredibly awesome, they finally finished building it. 8-)
Although I wonder when the rocket component will actually be finished, since three people have already died in it's construction.
Creating awesome-i-tude is a dangerous business folks.

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  • AdrienAdrien Registered User
    edited July 2008
    Wait... People have died while building the rocket?

    Isn't... Isn't that kind of a bad sign?

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  • NeadenNeaden Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    You know a lot of people have died working for NASA right? Like two whole space shuttles plus one of the Apollo crews when they were practicing died in a fire. This kind of stuff is inherently dangerous.

  • saint2esaint2e Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Neaden wrote: »
    You know a lot of people have died working for NASA right? Like two whole space shuttles plus one of the Apollo crews when they were practicing died in a fire. This kind of stuff is inherently dangerous.

    It's not rocket scien... wait.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Too bad the SpaceShip2 isn't done yet, I can't wait for the private space industry to really take off (no pun intended).

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    All of these puns have had a pretty poor lift-off.

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  • AeolusdallasAeolusdallas Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Adrien wrote: »
    Wait... People have died while building the rocket?

    Isn't... Isn't that kind of a bad sign?
    People often die while testing new aircraft.

  • SenjutsuSenjutsu fiddy too Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Adrien wrote: »
    Wait... People have died while building the rocket?

    Isn't... Isn't that kind of a bad sign?

    Nitrous Oxide explosion while they were testing a subsystem of the rocket engine.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Adrien wrote: »
    Wait... People have died while building the rocket?

    Isn't... Isn't that kind of a bad sign?

    Nitrous Oxide explosion while they were testing a subsystem of the rocket engine.

    At least they were killed by happy gas.

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  • Gorilla SaladGorilla Salad Registered User
    edited July 2008
    So private space travel isn't to far off?

    Sweet.

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  • gtrmpgtrmp Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Adrien wrote: »
    Wait... People have died while building the rocket?

    Isn't... Isn't that kind of a bad sign?

    Nitrous Oxide explosion while they were testing a subsystem of the rocket engine.

    At least they were killed by happy gas.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    lawl. Good show, gtrmp

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  • Zilla360Zilla360 Spaaaace! In Space.Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    <img class=" title=":lol:" class="bbcode_smiley" /> Nice one.

  • electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I do keep wondering if sub-orbital flight systems like these will ever be capable of orbital launches. Like, has anyone done the calculations to work out if it's efficient enough to carry the necessary fuel to get to say, geo-stationary orbit from a launch platform like this?

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  • Zilla360Zilla360 Spaaaace! In Space.Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Well, Branson is talking about stuff like that, so they must have a plan for it.

    Edit: The White Knight is supposedly the most fuel-efficient jet aircraft ever built, for it's size.

  • MishraMishra Registered User
    edited July 2008
    Yeah I got to go out there fo see spaceship one while I was working a project. Burt Rutan is a crotchety old guys, as is to be expected. These designs can work for getting stuff into orbit, one of our projects here in my unit is called ARES Advance REusable Spacelift. It's essentially a reverse space shuttle, where you fly back the first stage.

    For those interested there will be a Delta II Launching out of Dandenberg AFB a around 11:50 AM and an Atlas V at around 9:10 AM on Sept 10th

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  • FendallFendall Registered User
    edited July 2008
    Its obviously a step forward, particularly in materials science and application. However sadly this kind of launcher is never going into orbit. The speed required to actually get into LEO is massively more than SS2 could ever achieve. You need to get to Mach 26, SpaceShipOne did just over Mach 3, I don't expect SS2 will do much higher.


    You can't even redesign it to use scramjets or anything since they operate most efficiently at lower altitudes. Plus extended life support, heatshields and so on means you simply can't pack enough fuel onboard.

    Can't beat a good ol' rocket.

  • MishraMishra Registered User
    edited July 2008
    Fendall wrote: »
    Its obviously a step forward, particularly in materials science and application. However sadly this kind of launcher is never going into orbit. The speed required to actually get into LEO is massively more than SS2 could ever achieve. You need to get to Mach 26, SpaceShipOne did just over Mach 3, I don't expect SS2 will do much higher.


    You can't even redesign it to use scramjets or anything since they operate most efficiently at lower altitudes. Plus extended life support, heatshields and so on means you simply can't pack enough fuel onboard.

    Can't beat a good ol' rocket.

    Well the idea is you fly White Knight 2 up carrying the rocket. We already do this with our pegasus rockets, the difference is White knight can fly a hell of a lot higher and carries a pretty heavy payload. If you get high enough you also get above the typical MaxQ or high pressure point in a rockets flight profile. This means your payload doesn't need to be as resistant to noise and vibration, meaning more of your satellite weight budget can be payload as opposed to structure.

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