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SkutSkut · August 2008

Technically 18+ IS AO.

Gorilla Salad · August 2008

I have no idea what the british market is like. All I remember is that Manhunt 2 almost got banned.

And Austrailia's rating system is just fucked up.

Big Classy · August 2008

As opposed to having two seperate ratings for the same age group? You Americans have the Aussies beat.
I say the Germans are the clear winners though; ban zem all!

august · August 2008

Gorilla Salad wrote: »

MundaneSoul wrote: »

Gorilla Salad wrote: »

The game is rated M. It will never be rated AO. Ever. AO games don't sell.

I think this is the problem. WHY THE HELL NOT?

Okay, I mean I understand why not. I just think it's a bit ridiculous. We should be able to have some AO games, dammit.

Ah, but see, you can't. It has such a negative stigma around it, much like NC-17, that it equals immediate retail death for any AO game.

Also all other AO games are things like Sexy Beach and hentai games.

Finally, can you get Fallout to run on Vista?

Well probably. I doubt anyone's going to have a definitive answer either way on here. Just stick it in the drive and see what happens.

Gorilla Salad · August 2008

Big Isy wrote: »

As opposed to having two seperate ratings for the same age group? You Americans have the Aussies beat.
I say the Germans are the clear winners though; ban zem all!

That's just something with our country. 18 is a magical age where you become responsible and all that shit.

Gorilla Salad · August 2008

august wrote: »

Gorilla Salad wrote: »

MundaneSoul wrote: »

Gorilla Salad wrote: »

The game is rated M. It will never be rated AO. Ever. AO games don't sell.

I think this is the problem. WHY THE HELL NOT?

Okay, I mean I understand why not. I just think it's a bit ridiculous. We should be able to have some AO games, dammit.

Ah, but see, you can't. It has such a negative stigma around it, much like NC-17, that it equals immediate retail death for any AO game.

Also all other AO games are things like Sexy Beach and hentai games.

Finally, can you get Fallout to run on Vista?

Well probably. I doubt anyone's going to have a definitive answer either way on here. Just stick it in the drive and see what happens.

I know you had to fiddle with it a bit to get it to run on XP.

Couscous · August 2008

Big Isy wrote: »

As opposed to having two seperate ratings for the same age group?

Seventeen is completely different from 18.

AO and NC-17 are really just there as "contains 'hardcore' sex or a lot of horrifying shit not justified in any way" categories for the most part nowadays. You have to practically be trying to get an AO rating except in a few cases usually involving the USA's stupid obsession with sex.

august · August 2008

Gorilla Salad wrote: »

august wrote: »

Gorilla Salad wrote: »

MundaneSoul wrote: »

Gorilla Salad wrote: »

The game is rated M. It will never be rated AO. Ever. AO games don't sell.

I think this is the problem. WHY THE HELL NOT?

Okay, I mean I understand why not. I just think it's a bit ridiculous. We should be able to have some AO games, dammit.

Ah, but see, you can't. It has such a negative stigma around it, much like NC-17, that it equals immediate retail death for any AO game.

Also all other AO games are things like Sexy Beach and hentai games.

Finally, can you get Fallout to run on Vista?

Well probably. I doubt anyone's going to have a definitive answer either way on here. Just stick it in the drive and see what happens.

I know you had to fiddle with it a bit to get it to run on XP.

Some people have to do some stuff to get it to work in XP. I, personally, didn't have to do a thing. It's pretty random.

Big Classy · August 2008

lolboobies

LoveIsUnity · August 2008

Both of the original Fallout games work perfectly on my computer under XP. It really is random.

Eat it You Nasty Pig. · August 2008

I wouldn't say it works perfectly under XP; last time I installed it, I had some annoying crash bugs. That seems fairly standard for the fallout games, though.

Daxon · August 2008

Fallout games are buggy as hell. Incredibly buggy buggy, this makes me wonder how people can truly believe the two original FO games were the pinnacle of gaming for all time. The games didn't even work properly at their best. Fan patches generally fix it up pretty well.

LoveIsUnity · August 2008

Hence the reason I wrote "on my computer." I just played through both of them last winter, and I didn't have any problems.

Big Classy · August 2008

I'm playing through the first game and whilst the humor and gameplay is great, the constant crashing is annoying. It seems to only happen when trying to interact with Kilian when he's at Gizmos Casino

Daxon · August 2008

Big Isy wrote: »

I'm playing through the first game and whilst the humor and gameplay is great, the constant crashing is annoying. It seems to only happen when trying to interact with Kilian when he's at Gizmos Casino

So... stop?

You installed the official and unoffial fan patches? Beware doing so will make previous save files incompatible with patched version of fallout so you'll have to start a new game.

Big Classy · August 2008

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO![/I

eh, alright

KungFu · August 2008

I just played through Fallout 1 again, for the first time in like 10 years. I played Fallout 2 numerous times, but for some reason I never went back to the original. Im glad I did because that reminded me how much I enjoyed it. Had some weird endings despite my actions in game (bugs I think).

Kinda wish I explored more of The Glow though. For some reason I always thought the first floor was all that was accessible but now I read that there are more floors with some little background story droplets in there. I know that I pretty much know all about the Fallout history and story, but I love to see every little bit of stuff I can in-game. Talking to computers and exploring the parts of the game that involve pre-war stuff always fascinates me.

Deaderinred · August 2008

decided to replay fo1 using a few mods and resolution patch (lol at small maps) and since ive been through this game a number of times im thinking of doing a special kind of play.. going to do a no-reloads run and im thinking of doing a "what if i was in fallout" type character, base him off what i think my stats would be but i kinda had to scrap that since it wont let you start the game with unused stats.. so i had to go as a close as possible, traits i picked were small frame and night person and i tagged small guns science and i cant quite decide on what 3rd skill to tag.. im thinking either lockpicking or repair.. once i get to level 12 ill be using the perk that gives you a 4th tag skill and tagging energy weapons too.

::: Statistics :::
Strength: 03
Perception: 08
Endurance: 02
Charisma: 06
Intelligence: 07
Agility: 07
Luck: 06

its very hard to do this unless i can figure out a way to start the game without using the unneeded stats.. currently my charisma is too high (want it to be 4) and luck needs to be 5, agility needs to be 5 or 6 and perception needs to be 6-7 too for what im trying to do.

ironzerg · August 2008

KungFu wrote: »

I just played through Fallout 1 again, for the first time in like 10 years. I played Fallout 2 numerous times, but for some reason I never went back to the original. Im glad I did because that reminded me how much I enjoyed it. Had some weird endings despite my actions in game (bugs I think).

Kinda wish I explored more of The Glow though. For some reason I always thought the first floor was all that was accessible but now I read that there are more floors with some little background story droplets in there. I know that I pretty much know all about the Fallout history and story, but I love to see every little bit of stuff I can in-game. Talking to computers and exploring the parts of the game that involve pre-war stuff always fascinates me.

I think this was one of the best part about Fallout 1: the way the story unfolded. I think Fallout 1 holds a special place because you basically started the game with a basic idea of the Big Picture, but the entire game was littered with tiny fragments of the details about what actually happened.

This is one reason I could never play a character with low intelligence or science skill. You just seemed to miss too many great little bits of story if you went too meathead combat heavy.

And The Glow in particular had some great bits in it.

Overall, this is what I think really made the game. The combat system was ok, the graphics were ok, the character system was pretty good, the teammate system was lousy. But the way the story unfolded was absolutely classic. It was years ahead of its time in story telling, and can compare favorably with even the best executed in-game story of today's games.

People are getting worked up over the level scaling, the animations or the combat system, but really, I think the devil is in the details.

Gorilla Salad · August 2008

So it installed fine this time. Same glitch I had as last time where the hud bar would get covered in darkness but would wipe away if you moused over it.

What are the fan patches I need?

OremLK · August 2008

ironzerg wrote: »

KungFu wrote: »

I just played through Fallout 1 again, for the first time in like 10 years. I played Fallout 2 numerous times, but for some reason I never went back to the original. Im glad I did because that reminded me how much I enjoyed it. Had some weird endings despite my actions in game (bugs I think).

Kinda wish I explored more of The Glow though. For some reason I always thought the first floor was all that was accessible but now I read that there are more floors with some little background story droplets in there. I know that I pretty much know all about the Fallout history and story, but I love to see every little bit of stuff I can in-game. Talking to computers and exploring the parts of the game that involve pre-war stuff always fascinates me.

I think this was one of the best part about Fallout 1: the way the story unfolded. I think Fallout 1 holds a special place because you basically started the game with a basic idea of the Big Picture, but the entire game was littered with tiny fragments of the details about what actually happened.

This is one reason I could never play a character with low intelligence or science skill. You just seemed to miss too many great little bits of story if you went too meathead combat heavy.

And The Glow in particular had some great bits in it.

Overall, this is what I think really made the game. The combat system was ok, the graphics were ok, the character system was pretty good, the teammate system was lousy. But the way the story unfolded was absolutely classic. It was years ahead of its time in story telling, and can compare favorably with even the best executed in-game story of today's games.

People are getting worked up over the level scaling, the animations or the combat system, but really, I think the devil is in the details.

Pretty much this, although I feel the setting was much more interesting than the plot itself (but, that's still part of the overall story I guess).

Also I think the combat system was amazingly fun

To the above poster: If you're going to do a no-reload run you might as well go all the way and make it a melee run

Vincent Grayson · August 2008

OremLK wrote: »

ironzerg wrote: »

KungFu wrote: »

I just played through Fallout 1 again, for the first time in like 10 years. I played Fallout 2 numerous times, but for some reason I never went back to the original. Im glad I did because that reminded me how much I enjoyed it. Had some weird endings despite my actions in game (bugs I think).

Kinda wish I explored more of The Glow though. For some reason I always thought the first floor was all that was accessible but now I read that there are more floors with some little background story droplets in there. I know that I pretty much know all about the Fallout history and story, but I love to see every little bit of stuff I can in-game. Talking to computers and exploring the parts of the game that involve pre-war stuff always fascinates me.

I think this was one of the best part about Fallout 1: the way the story unfolded. I think Fallout 1 holds a special place because you basically started the game with a basic idea of the Big Picture, but the entire game was littered with tiny fragments of the details about what actually happened.

This is one reason I could never play a character with low intelligence or science skill. You just seemed to miss too many great little bits of story if you went too meathead combat heavy.

And The Glow in particular had some great bits in it.

Overall, this is what I think really made the game. The combat system was ok, the graphics were ok, the character system was pretty good, the teammate system was lousy. But the way the story unfolded was absolutely classic. It was years ahead of its time in story telling, and can compare favorably with even the best executed in-game story of today's games.

People are getting worked up over the level scaling, the animations or the combat system, but really, I think the devil is in the details.

Pretty much this, although I feel the setting was much more interesting than the plot itself (but, that's still part of the overall story I guess).

Also I think the combat system was amazingly fun

To the above poster: If you're going to do a no-reload run you might as well go all the way and make it a melee run

Ditto. The setting was the most interesting thing about Fallout to me, and seeing that setting modernized in a game that'll be far more immersive makes me happy, regardless of what else might happen.

KungFu · August 2008

OremLK wrote: »

To the above poster: If you're going to do a no-reload run you might as well go all the way and make it a melee run

Im not sure if you misunderstood him, but I think he means that he won't be using the save/load buttons very much. He is gonna go with what the game hands him.

OremLK · August 2008

Ah, yeah. I see reload, I think guns. I was kind of scratching my head thinking, "is he just going to pick up shit off corpses a lot and never reload a weapon?"

ironzerg · August 2008

KungFu wrote: »

OremLK wrote: »

To the above poster: If you're going to do a no-reload run you might as well go all the way and make it a melee run

Im not sure if you misunderstood him, but I think he means that he won't be using the save/load buttons very much. He is gonna go with what the game hands him.

Naw...I think lugging around hundreds of chain guns and rocket launchers would be an interesting challenge.

:lol:

randombattle · August 2008

KungFu wrote: »

OremLK wrote: »

To the above poster: If you're going to do a no-reload run you might as well go all the way and make it a melee run

Im not sure if you misunderstood him, but I think he means that he won't be using the save/load buttons very much. He is gonna go with what the game hands him.

Round here we call that thar an 'ironman' run. Don't know nothin bout none of this fancy no-reloadin talk.

freakish light · August 2008

Gorilla Salad wrote: »

So it installed fine this time. Same glitch I had as last time where the hud bar would get covered in darkness but would wipe away if you moused over it.

What are the fan patches I need?

Let's see...

First, the official 1.1 Fallout patch. http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/dload.php?action=file&file_id=48
Second, the 1.2 fan patch. http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1076
Third, the 1.3.3 fan patch. http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1075
After that, the resolution patcher http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1129
and the engine tweaks http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1068

Then you should be set.

august · August 2008

Followers mod.

http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1135

KungFu · August 2008

Do any of those fan-made changes add the NPC-Push feature from Fallout 2 into Fallout 1? I got stuck a couple times in Fallout 1 and had to reload to older save files to escape my NPC-made prison cells. I was in the Blades area of Boneyard and two NPC's stood in a doorway perpetually talking to each other.

My mind asploded.

freakish light · August 2008

august wrote: »

Followers mod.

http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1135

Oh nice, I missed that one. Just being on NMA makes my skin crawl.

Vincent Grayson · August 2008

Weird. I have a directory on my hard drive which contains my Fallout saves, but the game isn't installed. I can't imagine when I uninstalled it, or why. Also, I can't find the disc.

Dammit.

august · August 2008

KungFu wrote: »

Do any of those fan-made changes add the NPC-Push feature from Fallout 2 into Fallout 1? I got stuck a couple times in Fallout 1 and had to reload to older save files to escape my NPC-made prison cells. I was in the Blades area of Boneyard and two NPC's stood in a doorway perpetually talking to each other.

My mind asploded.

Nnnope!

randombattle · August 2008

freakish light wrote: »

After that, the resolution patcher http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1129

How's this look? Stretched? Just more screen area displayed? Cause I've always played it in its original resolution in a window. I think it would look strange if it was higher res since the graphics aren't.

freakish light · August 2008

More screen area displayed. Aspect ratio is perfect, and I think the HUD scales too. The only problems with it are sometimes it gets stuck with the "can't scroll" arrow when there's more ways to scroll and sometimes if you click too far ahead of your character it won't register onscreen. Plus, some single-screen areas look weird - like random encounters in the desert with a mountain backdrop, the mountains just stop where the default resolution ends, but the screen keeps going.

august · August 2008

It shrinks the art down. But it is pretty goddamn awesome.

Boredom · August 2008

I'm going to be dragging up an issue which may or may not have already been clarified in this thread. In case this has been mentioned before, ignore me.

When I read that melee couldn't be targeted I was a bit disappointed, but then I read this:

Specific body parts cannot be targeted when fighting with melee weapons or in hand to hand combat. What is the reason behind this decision? Does melee/HtH fighting offer something else to compensate?

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We tried many ways of doing melee with VATS, and having messed a lot with "missing" in melee, it just felt really bad. So once we changed VATS melee to "always hit", assuming you are in range, the body part selection became a bit unbalancing, so now it's a "whole body attack", but you still do end up hitting a specific body part when you swing, but it's based on what you actually contact with, as opposed to what you aim at. This avoids the "always punch in the head" problem, whereas with guns, we can balance out certain body parts with hit percentages, like the head.

This sounds perfectly reasonable.

Carcharodontosaurus · August 2008

That sounds awesome actually. I can now crouch and smack Super Mutants square in the particulars with my Power Fist.

Djiem · August 2008

So, there's no groin shot but there's still groin shot somewhat.

Oats · August 2008

There is still the potential of possibly punching someone square in the nads it would seem.

Gorilla Salad · August 2008

So, I'm trying to get the patches all done up for Fallout.

What's a good zip file opener?

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