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The American Presidency: Obama does not believe in prevent defense

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Gosling wrote: »
    And so it was that another candidate learned not to screw up your panderings to the local sports team.

    Namely, if you're going to mention the playoffs, pick one team and stick with it.
    "How about those Tampa Bay Rays?" Gov. Sarah Palin shouted in Jacksonville last week.

    "You know what that tells me, it tells me that the people in this area know a little something about turning an underdog into a victor," she said. "And we're counting on you to help us do that Nov. 4." Palin, who said essentially the same thing in Clearwater, might as well have pulled on a Rays jersey and sprayed the crowd with champagne and beer.

    But yesterday in Salem, N.H., John McCain's running mate was saying something remarkably similar about the other guys. “We’re just 20 days out from the election and it’s gonna come right down to the wire, and we’re counting on you because Red Sox fans know how to turn an underdog into a victor, and that’s exactly what you can help us do on Nov. 4!"

    It'll be a while before anyone panders to Orioles fans. :(

    Buck up tiger, I live in washington state, we never get politicians to show up and campaign and no one likes our teams (hell we just lost one).

  • TaramoorTaramoor Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Gosling wrote: »
    And so it was that another candidate learned not to screw up your panderings to the local sports team.

    Namely, if you're going to mention the playoffs, pick one team and stick with it.
    "How about those Tampa Bay Rays?" Gov. Sarah Palin shouted in Jacksonville last week.

    "You know what that tells me, it tells me that the people in this area know a little something about turning an underdog into a victor," she said. "And we're counting on you to help us do that Nov. 4." Palin, who said essentially the same thing in Clearwater, might as well have pulled on a Rays jersey and sprayed the crowd with champagne and beer.

    But yesterday in Salem, N.H., John McCain's running mate was saying something remarkably similar about the other guys. “We’re just 20 days out from the election and it’s gonna come right down to the wire, and we’re counting on you because Red Sox fans know how to turn an underdog into a victor, and that’s exactly what you can help us do on Nov. 4!"

    For his part, Obama waited until the White Sox were knocked out to throw in with the Phillies.

    It still just seems to me like they're suffering from the same problem that afflicts a lot of politicians nowadays.

    They don't realize that people can talk to and communicate with people a thousand miles away almost instantaneously. They don't get that people who see them in Ohio and people who see them in Florida can compare notes immediately afterward.

    Either that, or they don't realize they're being recorded whenever they do or say anything. To anyone. Anywhere.

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Couscous wrote: »

    FEAR MONGER!!!

    Got to get that base to show up.

  • David_TDavid_T Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    syndalis wrote: »
    So today I am trying carpooling all of my apathetic friends to the early voting here in NC; they are all pro-bama, but I have no faith in them going it alone.

    Now I'm picturing four stoners walking off in all directions and one frantic guy trying to herd them all towards the car.

    "Jimmy! Jimmy, get back here! Matt, no, we'll go for ice cream afterwards. Get in the car. Not that car, my car. Jimmy!"

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  • tsmvengytsmvengy Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    David_T wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    So today I am trying carpooling all of my apathetic friends to the early voting here in NC; they are all pro-bama, but I have no faith in them going it alone.

    Now I'm picturing four stoners walking off in all directions and one frantic guy trying to herd them all towards the car.

    "Jimmy! Jimmy, get back here! Matt, no, we'll go for ice cream afterwards. Get in the car. Not that car, my car. Jimmy!"

    Do it Syndalis! Trick them into thinking you're going to Six Flags and take them to a polling place!

    Seriously, you should convince them to go - why not? Don't they want to vote for Obama? Make it a group outing.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Couscous wrote: »
    Can someone explain how they think this is a good ad?
    Because black people are scary.

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    edited October 2008
    tsmvengy wrote: »
    David_T wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    So today I am trying carpooling all of my apathetic friends to the early voting here in NC; they are all pro-bama, but I have no faith in them going it alone.

    Now I'm picturing four stoners walking off in all directions and one frantic guy trying to herd them all towards the car.

    "Jimmy! Jimmy, get back here! Matt, no, we'll go for ice cream afterwards. Get in the car. Not that car, my car. Jimmy!"

    Do it Syndalis! Trick them into thinking you're going to Six Flags and take them to a polling place!

    Seriously, you should convince them to go - why not? Don't they want to vote for Obama? Make it a group outing.
    They totally do; I just know that it is very likely many of them will not vote if it isn't made easy. Frustrating, but thats the way it is.

    Some of them would though, and I think they will help me make this happen.

  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Community Organizer turns Biden rally into phonebanking shift.
    When local field organizer Christian Lund took the stage just prior to Joe Biden's appearance on Tuesday night in Marietta, he asked those in the attendant crowd of about 4,000 to look at the sheets in their hands. Each sheet held four names, and each name had a phone number and a bar code for later data scanning. Lund asked the people in the crowd to make four phone calls to this targeted group, and then he demonstrated.

    Is this standard at this point? If it's not, it should be.

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  • Orochi_RockmanOrochi_Rockman __BANNED USERS
    edited October 2008
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Because black people are scary.

    Sadly this is nearly the exact thing my mother said when I asked her why she was voting for McCain.

  • Armored GorillaArmored Gorilla Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Man, I always read "Joe the Plumber" as "Joe the Plumper".

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Community Organizer turns Biden rally into phonebanking shift.
    When local field organizer Christian Lund took the stage just prior to Joe Biden's appearance on Tuesday night in Marietta, he asked those in the attendant crowd of about 4,000 to look at the sheets in their hands. Each sheet held four names, and each name had a phone number and a bar code for later data scanning. Lund asked the people in the crowd to make four phone calls to this targeted group, and then he demonstrated.

    Is this standard at this point? If it's not, it should be.

    It's like the Obama campaign realizes hope and ambition doesn't get out votes like good ole phone calls and door knocking...

  • MedopineMedopine __BANNED USERS
    edited October 2008
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Community Organizer turns Biden rally into phonebanking shift.
    When local field organizer Christian Lund took the stage just prior to Joe Biden's appearance on Tuesday night in Marietta, he asked those in the attendant crowd of about 4,000 to look at the sheets in their hands. Each sheet held four names, and each name had a phone number and a bar code for later data scanning. Lund asked the people in the crowd to make four phone calls to this targeted group, and then he demonstrated.

    Is this standard at this point? If it's not, it should be.

    That is so fucking cool

  • MahnmutMahnmut Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Pedantic PSA for Other Pedants:

    'Federalist' no longer denotes support for a strong central government. The term has moved, and now for a long time means, in modern American politics, "one who supports a system of the government in which sovereignty is constitutionally divided between a central governing authority and constituent political units." Cope. :P

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  • StreckStreck Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Community Organizer turns Biden rally into phonebanking shift.
    When local field organizer Christian Lund took the stage just prior to Joe Biden's appearance on Tuesday night in Marietta, he asked those in the attendant crowd of about 4,000 to look at the sheets in their hands. Each sheet held four names, and each name had a phone number and a bar code for later data scanning. Lund asked the people in the crowd to make four phone calls to this targeted group, and then he demonstrated.

    Is this standard at this point? If it's not, it should be.

    I can't get over the sheer awesomeness of Obama's ground operations.

    http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/on-road-toledo-ohio.html
    Now that Debrah has settled into her role as one of Obama's Toledo Community Directors, she's amazed at the sophistication of the Obama structure. As a Community Director, she oversees three Neighborhood Team Leaders, volunteers who comprise the heart of Obama's volunteering infrastructure. Each neighborhood team, in turn, has up to five different coordinators: (1) the canvass coordinator; (2) the phonebank coordinator; (3) the volunteer coordinator; (4) the data coordinator; and (5) where applicable, the faith coordinator.

    In Ohio, Campaign for Change State Director Jeremy Bird told us, there are 1,231 defined neighborhoods, as of August 25 there were about 800 in place, and as of Saturday approximately 1,100 NTLs had been tested and were up in operation. By "tested," Bird said, each NTL had undergone and met a series of specific challenges the field organizers had presented.

    First, can the potential NTL organize a group of people? Whether by hosting a house party, a faith forum with a church group, or some other type of organizational meeting, the potential NTL needs to show they can lead the organization of their neighbors.

    Second, can the potential NTL pass the voter contact test? Can he or she lead a canvass, can he or she build a group phonebanking night? It's a leadership test, built around voter contact.

    Third, are they willing to make the final commitment by attending specific training for their role? Debrah Harleston smiled as she told us about the imminent blooming of satellite offices throughout the Toledo area so that neighborhood teams can begin running right in the neighborhoods autonomously. They've been trained, they've registered their voters, and now it's time to see how this baby runs.

  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Medopine wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Community Organizer turns Biden rally into phonebanking shift.
    When local field organizer Christian Lund took the stage just prior to Joe Biden's appearance on Tuesday night in Marietta, he asked those in the attendant crowd of about 4,000 to look at the sheets in their hands. Each sheet held four names, and each name had a phone number and a bar code for later data scanning. Lund asked the people in the crowd to make four phone calls to this targeted group, and then he demonstrated.

    Is this standard at this point? If it's not, it should be.

    That is so fucking cool

    It was Standard Operating Procedure at Deval Patrick rallies in 06 and the Obama campaign used that campaign as a dry run in many ways I think.

    Before this rally I specifically remember my cell phone not being able to get a signal because the towers in the center of Boston were overloaded

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  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    PantsB wrote: »
    Medopine wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Community Organizer turns Biden rally into phonebanking shift.
    When local field organizer Christian Lund took the stage just prior to Joe Biden's appearance on Tuesday night in Marietta, he asked those in the attendant crowd of about 4,000 to look at the sheets in their hands. Each sheet held four names, and each name had a phone number and a bar code for later data scanning. Lund asked the people in the crowd to make four phone calls to this targeted group, and then he demonstrated.

    Is this standard at this point? If it's not, it should be.

    That is so fucking cool

    It was Standard Operating Procedure at Deval Patrick rallies in 06 and the Obama campaign used that campaign as a dry run in many ways I think.

    Before this rally I specifically remember my cell phone not being able to get a signal because the towers in the center of Boston were overloaded[URL]

    Hey! That guy sounds a lot like...

    *cough*

  • ScreamlineScreamline Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Medopine wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Community Organizer turns Biden rally into phonebanking shift.
    When local field organizer Christian Lund took the stage just prior to Joe Biden's appearance on Tuesday night in Marietta, he asked those in the attendant crowd of about 4,000 to look at the sheets in their hands. Each sheet held four names, and each name had a phone number and a bar code for later data scanning. Lund asked the people in the crowd to make four phone calls to this targeted group, and then he demonstrated.

    Is this standard at this point? If it's not, it should be.

    That is so fucking cool

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    It's getting harder and harder to not take this thing for granted.

  • NailbunnyPDNailbunnyPD Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Screamline wrote: »
    Medopine wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Community Organizer turns Biden rally into phonebanking shift.
    When local field organizer Christian Lund took the stage just prior to Joe Biden's appearance on Tuesday night in Marietta, he asked those in the attendant crowd of about 4,000 to look at the sheets in their hands. Each sheet held four names, and each name had a phone number and a bar code for later data scanning. Lund asked the people in the crowd to make four phone calls to this targeted group, and then he demonstrated.

    Is this standard at this point? If it's not, it should be.

    That is so fucking cool

    2945954176_118868f8f9.jpg

    It's getting harder and harder to not take this thing for granted.

    I saw that one the site, but I just now noticed the guy on the right reading a book.

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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2008
    tsmvengy wrote: »
    David_T wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    So today I am trying carpooling all of my apathetic friends to the early voting here in NC; they are all pro-bama, but I have no faith in them going it alone.

    Now I'm picturing four stoners walking off in all directions and one frantic guy trying to herd them all towards the car.

    "Jimmy! Jimmy, get back here! Matt, no, we'll go for ice cream afterwards. Get in the car. Not that car, my car. Jimmy!"

    Do it Syndalis! Trick them into thinking you're going to Six Flags and take them to a polling place!

    Seriously, you should convince them to go - why not? Don't they want to vote for Obama? Make it a group outing.

    Dress up as the old man, do the dance, drive 'em to the polling station, then dance some more in the station. It'll be like those commercials, except democratic.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    The rest of you, I fucking hate you for the fact that I now have a blue dot on this god awful thread.
  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Screamline wrote: »
    Spoiler:
    It's getting harder and harder to not take this thing for granted.
    Well, there's a reason they're switching to robocalls.

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  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So has this been brought up yet?

    Bottom line. McCain couldn't get cell phone reception at his Arizona house. So he got AT&T and Verizon to build towers for him. At his house. Personally.

    http://gizmodo.com/5064372/att-and-verizon-built-special-cell-towers-at-john-mccains-house-to-fix-his-reception
    Spoiler:

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  • DrakeonDrakeon Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    mxmarks wrote: »
    So has this been brought up yet?

    Bottom line. McCain couldn't get cell phone reception at his Arizona house. So he got AT&T and Verizon to build towers for him. At his house. Personally.

    http://gizmodo.com/5064372/att-and-verizon-built-special-cell-towers-at-john-mccains-house-to-fix-his-reception
    Spoiler:

    I think the Secret Service requested it actually. Thought I heard about it earlier in the last thread.

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  • TaramoorTaramoor Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    mxmarks wrote: »
    So has this been brought up yet?

    Bottom line. McCain couldn't get cell phone reception at his Arizona house. So he got AT&T and Verizon to build towers for him. At his house. Personally.

    http://gizmodo.com/5064372/att-and-verizon-built-special-cell-towers-at-john-mccains-house-to-fix-his-reception
    Spoiler:


    Feels like mountain out of molehill territory.

    I can completely buy the Secret Service needing a tower as long as McCain is in the running, and do not begrudge AT&T or Verizon or whoever for complying with a great deal of haste.

    In short, it sounds bad as a headline, but I personally see nothing wrong with it.

  • ElkiElki hegemon globalSuper Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited October 2008
    Nearly 48 years ago, a young woman, not yet 18, became pregnant in her freshman year of college. Living in a time and place in which abortion was generally illegal, she proceeded to marry the father of her child and gave birth to a son. Perhaps she would have done so irrespective of the abortion laws at the time, even if, say, she lived in a legal culture that celebrated abortion as a fundamental right. Very possibly not. (I haven’t found any statistics on the percentage of pregnant college freshmen who abort their pregnancies, but indirect indications suggest that it’s very high.)

    Barack Obama may actually believe, as he stated yesterday, that Roe v. Wade “was rightly decided.” But it may be very lucky for him, as the son born of that woman, that it hadn’t been decided a dozen or so years earlier.

    That Obama may owe his very life to a pre-Roe legal regime that banned abortion is, to be sure, not necessarily a reason that he should favor that regime (though I can’t help noting that Justice Thomas’s critics recklessly accuse him of hypocrisy for opposing racial-preference plans that they say he benefited from). But it ought to lead Obama and others to think more carefully about the valuable role that protective abortion laws play.
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  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/washingtonpostinvestigations/2008/10/exclusive_verizon_gave_cell_to.html

    There's the actual Washington Post article.

    I guess the S.S. did request Verizon's, but AT&T just built him one just because they wanted to.

    Oh yeah, AT&T and its employees are #3 on the All-Time donations to McCain list.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    mxmarks wrote: »
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/washingtonpostinvestigations/2008/10/exclusive_verizon_gave_cell_to.html

    There's the actual Washington Post article.

    I guess the S.S. did request Verizon's, but AT&T just built him one just because they wanted to.

    Oh yeah, AT&T and its employees are #3 on the All-Time donations to McCain list.
    Meh?

    I really don't see it going anywhere.

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Damn those lucky poor people who pay no taxes. Damn them to hell!

  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Ann Arbor, MichiganRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Couscous wrote: »

    Because it's as sleep inducing as their candidate?

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Couscous wrote: »

    Ok this Joe guy needs to go away. And that ad was horrible, if that folksy news reel shit was intended its a horrible ad you can hardly see it.

  • tsmvengytsmvengy Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Elki wrote: »
    Nearly 48 years ago, a young woman, not yet 18, became pregnant in her freshman year of college. Living in a time and place in which abortion was generally illegal, she proceeded to marry the father of her child and gave birth to a son. Perhaps she would have done so irrespective of the abortion laws at the time, even if, say, she lived in a legal culture that celebrated abortion as a fundamental right. Very possibly not. (I haven’t found any statistics on the percentage of pregnant college freshmen who abort their pregnancies, but indirect indications suggest that it’s very high.)

    Barack Obama may actually believe, as he stated yesterday, that Roe v. Wade “was rightly decided.” But it may be very lucky for him, as the son born of that woman, that it hadn’t been decided a dozen or so years earlier.

    That Obama may owe his very life to a pre-Roe legal regime that banned abortion is, to be sure, not necessarily a reason that he should favor that regime (though I can’t help noting that Justice Thomas’s critics recklessly accuse him of hypocrisy for opposing racial-preference plans that they say he benefited from). But it ought to lead Obama and others to think more carefully about the valuable role that protective abortion laws play.
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    :rotate:

    Wow that is some twisted logic right there.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Ann Arbor, MichiganRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Couscous wrote: »

    Yes, leading newspapers like Murdoch's Post and Richard Mellon Scaife's Tribune-Review...

    Come on guys!

  • DelzhandDelzhand motivated battle programmerRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Screamline wrote: »
    Medopine wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Community Organizer turns Biden rally into phonebanking shift.
    When local field organizer Christian Lund took the stage just prior to Joe Biden's appearance on Tuesday night in Marietta, he asked those in the attendant crowd of about 4,000 to look at the sheets in their hands. Each sheet held four names, and each name had a phone number and a bar code for later data scanning. Lund asked the people in the crowd to make four phone calls to this targeted group, and then he demonstrated.

    Is this standard at this point? If it's not, it should be.

    That is so fucking cool

    2945954176_118868f8f9.jpg

    It's getting harder and harder to not take this thing for granted.

    I saw that one the site, but I just now noticed the guy on the right reading a book.

    What the hell is that "Democrat McCain" sign in the window? It's not "Democrats for McCain", there's no s. If it's "Democrat for McCain", then it's hilarious. You couldn't find one other person to pluralize it?

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  • TostitosTostitos __BANNED USERS
    edited October 2008
    "I'm just a babe in the woods who doesn't understand how inflated registration rolls can translate into fraudulent votes. Mickey Mouse can't vote, so there is nothing to worry about. Stop concerning yourself with ACORN & their links to Obama... this is all smoke & mirrors generated by the vast right wing conspiracy."

    Dude, you're as easy to see through as a sheet of Saran Wrap.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Delzhand wrote: »
    Screamline wrote: »
    Medopine wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Community Organizer turns Biden rally into phonebanking shift.
    When local field organizer Christian Lund took the stage just prior to Joe Biden's appearance on Tuesday night in Marietta, he asked those in the attendant crowd of about 4,000 to look at the sheets in their hands. Each sheet held four names, and each name had a phone number and a bar code for later data scanning. Lund asked the people in the crowd to make four phone calls to this targeted group, and then he demonstrated.

    Is this standard at this point? If it's not, it should be.

    That is so fucking cool

    2945954176_118868f8f9.jpg

    It's getting harder and harder to not take this thing for granted.

    I saw that one the site, but I just now noticed the guy on the right reading a book.

    What the hell is that "Democrat McCain" sign in the window? It's not "Democrats for McCain", there's no s. If it's "Democrat for McCain", then it's hilarious. You couldn't find one other person to pluralize it?

    Well its the kind of sign a single person would put up, I mean if you were advertising you were for mccain you wouldn't really call yourself a democrats.

  • tsmvengytsmvengy Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Tostitos wrote: »
    "I'm just a babe in the woods who doesn't understand how inflated registration rolls can translate into fraudulent votes. Mickey Mouse can't vote, so there is nothing to worry about. Stop concerning yourself with ACORN & their links to Obama... this is all smoke & mirrors generated by the vast right wing conspiracy."

    Dude, you're as easy to see through as a sheet of Saran Wrap.

    Wait, what? Are you seriously that ignorant?

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    edited October 2008
    Delzhand wrote: »
    Screamline wrote: »
    Medopine wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Community Organizer turns Biden rally into phonebanking shift.
    When local field organizer Christian Lund took the stage just prior to Joe Biden's appearance on Tuesday night in Marietta, he asked those in the attendant crowd of about 4,000 to look at the sheets in their hands. Each sheet held four names, and each name had a phone number and a bar code for later data scanning. Lund asked the people in the crowd to make four phone calls to this targeted group, and then he demonstrated.

    Is this standard at this point? If it's not, it should be.

    That is so fucking cool

    2945954176_118868f8f9.jpg

    It's getting harder and harder to not take this thing for granted.

    I saw that one the site, but I just now noticed the guy on the right reading a book.

    What the hell is that "Democrat McCain" sign in the window? It's not "Democrats for McCain", there's no s. If it's "Democrat for McCain", then it's hilarious. You couldn't find one other person to pluralize it?
    Its democrats, the angle of the sign + a fold in it is giving the illusion.

  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Tostitos wrote: »
    "I'm just a babe in the woods who doesn't understand how inflated registration rolls can translate into fraudulent votes. Mickey Mouse can't vote, so there is nothing to worry about. Stop concerning yourself with ACORN & their links to Obama... this is all smoke & mirrors generated by the vast right wing conspiracy."

    Dude, you're as easy to see through as a sheet of Saran Wrap.

    You tell that...

    um

    That other guy in your post

    you tell him right the hell off.

  • TostitosTostitos __BANNED USERS
    edited October 2008
    tsmvengy wrote: »
    Tostitos wrote: »
    "I'm just a babe in the woods who doesn't understand how inflated registration rolls can translate into fraudulent votes. Mickey Mouse can't vote, so there is nothing to worry about. Stop concerning yourself with ACORN & their links to Obama... this is all smoke & mirrors generated by the vast right wing conspiracy."

    Dude, you're as easy to see through as a sheet of Saran Wrap.

    Wait, what? Are you seriously that ignorant?

    You like throwing the false dichotomy out, much?

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