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MotW 11/5/2008 - Fraction, always Fraction

jkylefultonjkylefulton Cap's Kooky QuartetRegistered User regular
edited November 2008 in Graphic Violence
Invincible Iron Man wins, particularly because of this page:

IMAGE SPOILERS:
Spoiler:

They need to let Fraction write Spidey more often.

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  • GR_ZombieGR_Zombie AAAAAGH Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Invincible Iron Man wins, particularly because of this page:

    IMAGE SPOILERS:
    Spoiler:

    They need to let Fraction write Spidey more often.

    Hell yes they do. That whole issue was great. I've decided that the guy doing the art is really good at people in costumes, not so good at people out of them.

    Also Marvel Zombies:
    Spoiler:

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  • FaynorFaynor Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    GR_Zombie wrote: »
    Invincible Iron Man wins, particularly because of this page:

    IMAGE SPOILERS:
    Spoiler:

    They need to let Fraction write Spidey more often.

    Hell yes they do. That whole issue was great. I've decided that the guy doing the art is really good at people in costumes, not so good at people out of them.

    Yeah, for sure. Especially close-ups.

    do you wanna see me eat a hotdog
  • kdrudykdrudy Registered User
    edited November 2008
    So Manifest Destiny 3
    Spoiler:

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Finding out who Trauma's dad was is my MotW. It's
    Spoiler:
    BTW.

    Punisher annual was good as well, along with IIM.

  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Final Crisis: Resist was pretty fucking sweet.

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    God I forgot to get Invincible Iron Man.
    I did snag The End, the new suits are super snazzy.
    Ultimatum was ehhhh and obviously set after the current arc in USM so beware some spoilers. Basically, I'm going to suffer through Loeb because I want to see why everyone but USM gets canceled.

    On a lighter note, I was reading some Powers today, and a prison is called Loeb Correctional. Loeb doesn't correct things
    He makes them worse

  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I would agree that Invincible Iron Man was great.

    Although it pissed me off all over again with the whole Brand New Day bullcrap, because all that stuff about Tony telling Peter that he should unmask and register already happened! Did the totally badass Stark Tech Spider suit just never happen? Because damn. Stupid!

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  • Diablo FettDiablo Fett Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    i only got four books this week (ASM, IIM, Avengers Initiative and Secret SIx) and they were all awesome

    actually, most of the Initiative special was just alright, but the Trauma back-up was awesome

  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    I would agree that Invincible Iron Man was great.

    Although it pissed me off all over again with the whole Brand New Day bullcrap, because all that stuff about Tony telling Peter that he should unmask and register already happened! Did the totally badass Stark Tech Spider suit just never happen? Because damn. Stupid!

    It still happaned, Tony remembers that Peter worked for him. Tony remembers that he worked together with Spidey, but he is unable to connect the two together or remember that Peter is Spider-Man.

    Why no one remembers his identity is going to be explained in a big Spidey story that starts early next year.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Mai-Kero wrote: »
    Final Crisis: Resist was pretty fucking sweet.

    I'm going to go get a Max Lord Was Right shirt made.

  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Munch wrote: »
    Mai-Kero wrote: »
    Final Crisis: Resist was pretty fucking sweet.

    I'm going to go get a Max Lord Was Right shirt made.

    I want to know how the fuck OMACs are so strong, though. How did Earth create technology that can essentially beat the shit out of pretty much any superhero?

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Cap's Kooky Quartet Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Mai-Kero wrote: »
    Munch wrote: »
    Mai-Kero wrote: »
    Final Crisis: Resist was pretty fucking sweet.

    I'm going to go get a Max Lord Was Right shirt made.

    I want to know how the fuck OMACs are so strong, though. How did Earth create technology that can essentially beat the shit out of pretty much any superhero?

    Batman made it during his spare time. Does it make sense? No. Did DC go along with it anyway? Yes.

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Cap's Kooky Quartet Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Also, Batman can make technology that can beat any superhero ever, but can't hook Babs Gordan up with some nanobots to fix her legs. Stay classy, Batman!

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    It was derived from Brainiac's technology. Though I still want to know how the OMACs can call down magic lightning able to de-power the Marvels.

    Honestly though, I think Mr. Terrific fucked up. OMACs operate by the oft quoted Inverse Ninja Law. The more there are, the weaker they are. He should have sent like, two of them out.

  • FaynorFaynor Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Speaking of inconsistencies, has it ever been explained why they don't just fix Two-Face's face? Or would he still be bat-shit crazy? Isn't a lot of his craziness derived from his fucked up features?

    do you wanna see me eat a hotdog
  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Faynor wrote: »
    Speaking of inconsistencies, has it ever been explained why they don't just fix Two-Face's face? Or would he still be bat-shit crazy? Isn't a lot of his craziness derived from his fucked up features?

    His face was fixed prior to One Year Later.

    Also, Barbara Gordon's legs were fixed a while ago. She just sits in a chair all day cuz she's lazy.

  • FaynorFaynor Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Oh. I didn't know, I only dabble in DC a little bit. Care to explain?

    do you wanna see me eat a hotdog
  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Cap's Kooky Quartet Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Faynor wrote: »
    Speaking of inconsistencies, has it ever been explained why they don't just fix Two-Face's face? Or would he still be bat-shit crazy? Isn't a lot of his craziness derived from his fucked up features?

    Also, a main plot point of Miller's Dark Knight Returns.

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    They've fixed Two-Face's scarring like, three times. Each time his psychosis resurfaces and he scars himself again.

    As for Barbara Gordon's legs, Prometheus straight-up volunteered to fix her legs. You'd think that, after he'd been jailed, Batman might have gone through his technology and looked for some kind of spine-Spackle.

  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    Munch wrote: »
    They've fixed Two-Face's scarring like, three times. Each time his psychosis resurfaces and he scars himself again.

    As for Barbara Gordon's legs, Prometheus straight-up volunteered to fix her legs. You'd think that, after he'd been jailed, Batman might have gone through his technology and looked for some kind of spine-Spackle.

    I thought that the first couple it took, and then more bad shit happened and he got scarred up and went nutty again
    And then the last time he went nutty and cut up his own face and went back to the job

  • The Geebs That Got BigtimedThe Geebs That Got Bigtimed Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited November 2008
    I've thought Fraction should write Spider-Man since his fantastic Sensational Spider-Man Annual last year. Plus he seems to stick him in whatever he's writing anyways, so...

  • FCDFCD Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    I would agree that Invincible Iron Man was great.

    Although it pissed me off all over again with the whole Brand New Day bullcrap, because all that stuff about Tony telling Peter that he should unmask and register already happened! Did the totally badass Stark Tech Spider suit just never happen? Because damn. Stupid!

    It still happaned, Tony remembers that Peter worked for him. Tony remembers that he worked together with Spidey, but he is unable to connect the two together or remember that Peter is Spider-Man.

    Why no one remembers his identity is going to be explained in a big Spidey story that starts early next year.

    And, as I've said before, I think it's fantastic that we're getting some concrete information about how the new status quo works over a year after it actually started. You're doin' a heckuva job, Joey.

    "If anyone tried to steal your WAX LIPS, you would eat their eyeballs and deliver an angry lecture into their empty sockets." Hearts Boxcars, The Midnight Crew
  • descdesc the '87 stick up kids Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Damn that Iron Man looks good. Somehow I don't think there are any comics shops in Healdsburg. Stupid work trips. I need my Iron Man.

    Did anyone get Spider-Man and X-men? How is it?

  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    You seem to be under some kind of strange impression that Quesada is writing or even editing the Spider-Man titles (he's not)

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  • FCDFCD Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    You seem to be under some kind of strange impression that Quesada is writing or even editing the Spider-Man titles (he's not)

    I imagine that, as EiC, he has some say over what goes on in one of Marvel's flagship titles. Especially since the current direction it is going in was pretty explicitly stated to be his idea.

    "If anyone tried to steal your WAX LIPS, you would eat their eyeballs and deliver an angry lecture into their empty sockets." Hearts Boxcars, The Midnight Crew
  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Cap's Kooky Quartet Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Honestly, putting Jeph Loeb in charge of your status-quo-redefining-crossover indicates to me that JoeQ just doesn't care about the Ultimate line anymore.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    FCD wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    You seem to be under some kind of strange impression that Quesada is writing or even editing the Spider-Man titles (he's not)

    I imagine that, as EiC, he has some say over what goes on in one of Marvel's flagship titles. Especially since the current direction it is going in was pretty explicitly stated to be his idea.

    Yes, he pushed to put the new status quo in place

    but given that the book has a team of about 7-8 writers plus a dedicated editor in Steve Wacker who is in turn overseen by Tom Breevort, your implication that Quesada is outlining every story for ASM since OMD is not even remotely based in reality.

    and to jkyle: Loeb's books sell, if they didnt sell he wouldnt get such high profile assignments, but everything with his name on it is in pretty much always in the top 5 on the sales charts in the month it comes out.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • FCDFCD Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    FCD wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    You seem to be under some kind of strange impression that Quesada is writing or even editing the Spider-Man titles (he's not)

    I imagine that, as EiC, he has some say over what goes on in one of Marvel's flagship titles. Especially since the current direction it is going in was pretty explicitly stated to be his idea.

    Yes, he pushed to put the new status quo in place

    but given that the book has a team of about 7-8 writers plus a dedicated editor in Steve Wacker who is in turn overseen by Tom Breevort, your implication that Quesada is outlining every story for ASM since OMD is not even remotely based in reality.

    I'm not saying that he's outlining every story. All I'm saying is that there are certain points that he requires in regards to Spider-man(ie: Pete is neither married nor divorced, Aunt May is alive, the unmasking either never happened or no one remembers it, etc), and the rest he leaves to the writing/editing staff's discretion. I find this to be less than optimal.

    "If anyone tried to steal your WAX LIPS, you would eat their eyeballs and deliver an angry lecture into their empty sockets." Hearts Boxcars, The Midnight Crew
  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Cap's Kooky Quartet Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    FCD wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    You seem to be under some kind of strange impression that Quesada is writing or even editing the Spider-Man titles (he's not)

    I imagine that, as EiC, he has some say over what goes on in one of Marvel's flagship titles. Especially since the current direction it is going in was pretty explicitly stated to be his idea.

    Yes, he pushed to put the new status quo in place

    but given that the book has a team of about 7-8 writers plus a dedicated editor in Steve Wacker who is in turn overseen by Tom Breevort, your implication that Quesada is outlining every story for ASM since OMD is not even remotely based in reality.

    and to jkyle: Loeb's books sell, if they didnt sell he wouldnt get such high profile assignments, but everything with his name on it is in pretty much always in the top 5 on the sales charts in the month it comes out.

    300px-Onslaught_reborn_3.JPG

    http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2008/03/10/marvel-month-to-month-sales-january-2008-2/#more-4861

    52. ONSLAUGHT REBORN
    01/07 —
    02/07 —
    03/07 Onslaught Reborn #3 of 5 - 52,420 ( -4.9%)
    04/07 —
    05/07 —
    06/07 —
    07/07 Onslaught Reborn #4 of 5 - 45,946 (-12.4%)
    08/07 —
    09/07 —
    10/07 —
    11/07 —
    12/07 —
    01/08 Onslaught Reborn #5 of 5 - 39,083 (-14.9%)

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    ok yes, well aside from vanity projects about a property no one cares about

    Hulk, Fallen Son, Ultimates 3 all sell a fuckton of copies when they come out (or came out)

    and shit 52k for a fucking Onslaught Reborn mini is actually a pretty damn good number, who the fuck is buying that?

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Cap's Kooky Quartet Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    You bought it, didn't you Bale? You bought it. I know you did.

    I'm just bitter about my fantasy football team.

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    you bought it didn't you bale

    edit - DAMN YOU JKYLE

  • descdesc the '87 stick up kids Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I think after Red Hulk, Marvel is probably quite antsy to affix their Loeb-Money-Printing-Machine to any number of titles.

  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    fuck no

    Onslaught is one of the low points in X-Men history

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Cap's Kooky Quartet Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    You probably rub a copy of ONSLAUGHT REBORN #1 all over your body every night before you go to bed. You really expect me to believe that you wouldn't buy a book written by Loeb with Rob Liefeld art? Seriously? You know you fucking bought it. You know it!

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    fuck no

    Onslaught is one of the low points in X-Men history

    you're just mad it didn't go as long as the clone saga

  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    hey TLB you know Jeph Loeb created X-Man right

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  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Did anyone read Authority?
    Spoiler:

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    hey TLB you know Jeph Loeb created X-Man right

    yes

    he also created John Matrix

  • KeithKeith Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Munch wrote: »
    They've fixed Two-Face's scarring like, three times. Each time his psychosis resurfaces and he scars himself again.

    As for Barbara Gordon's legs, Prometheus straight-up volunteered to fix her legs. You'd think that, after he'd been jailed, Batman might have gone through his technology and looked for some kind of spine-Spackle.

    Barbara turned Prometheus down, though. Why would she say yes to Batman?

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