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NocturneNocturne Registered User regular
edited November 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
This is a failure because I'm at work right now and this blocks any access to most other sites.

Here is where a youtube of the chitty chitty bang bang song would go.

Someone feel free to give me a link that I can add to this OP.

I DIDN'T MEAN TO WIN.

But this shit was awesome.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    japan wrote:
    If you wanted to do that why would Mirror's Edge appeal to you in the first place?

    This is like when my girlfriend revealed to her mother that she was bisexual, and her mother replied, "Then why would you want to marry Keenan?"

    What do you mean, "if you could shoot people, why would you play Mirror's Edge?"

    I imagine I'd do it for the exploration gameplay! This is not an excuse for the gunplay to suck. Do not give excuses for lazy designers! Besides that, even if gunplay was awesome, would that take away from good parkour elements? No!

    Also, Cardboard Tube's Gandalf av should really be holding a cardboard tube, instead of Gandalf's staff.
    I mean, really, though, why would she want to marry you, if she could be having hot, lesbian sex for the rest of her life, instead?
    Because Keenan is a good person?
    Imagine you are a chick who can have hot, lesbian sex anytime you want to, Preacher.

    How good of a person would it take for you to give that up? Exactly. And I don't think JamesKeenan is Jesus squared.

    Look than, what makes you think any girl that Keenan would stick his love sausage into could get any kind of hot lesbian sex?

  • OboroOboro __BANNED USERS
    edited November 2008
    Man, I want to go back to bed, but waking up when it's nighttime fully-rested would break my circadian rhythm. :|

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Preacher wrote: »
    Res wrote: »
    Res wrote: »
    Question: Would Mirror's Edge be better if you couldn't use guns at all?

    It would be better than poorly implemented guns.

    Yes.

    So it's lazy for them to implement gunplay but not do it perfectly, but it's not lazy for them to just leave them out entirely?

    If you design a game that includes one poorly implemented dynamic, its retarded to claim that was your intention. "Man the shooting in gta sucks." "It's a driving game!"

    Well, I dunno it's crazy but maybe the intent is more "we didn't make it a priority."

    I mean, the parkour in Fallout 3 is balls terrible but I think the excuse that it was not something they spent a ton of time on makes sense.

  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Res wrote: »
    Res wrote: »
    Question: Would Mirror's Edge be better if you couldn't use guns at all?

    It would be better than poorly implemented guns.

    Yes.

    So it's lazy for them to implement gunplay but not do it perfectly, but it's not lazy for them to just leave them out entirely?

    No, because they speak to entirely different motives.

    For them to have consciously left the guns out of the game, it would be about creating a game with that in mind. Yeah.

    But including the guns, consciously, but half-assing it, speaks differently of their motives and actions. They provide the choice, but gimp it.

    It's not that guns are ineffective. It's not that they're gimped. It's that they opinion is that they play badly. There's a major difference.

  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Couscous wrote: »
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    I mean, really, though, why would she want to marry you, if she could be having hot, lesbian sex for the rest of her life, instead?

    'Cause marriage has tax benefits, but Florida just banned gay marriages, gay civil unions, gay friendships and everything else. So she's stuck.

    Isn't their a law saying basically if you're married in another state, your state has to recognize it. Didn't the wording of prop 2 go against that law?

    There is a law saying that your state doesn't have to recognize gay marriage in another state.

    I hardly recognize other states as it is.





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  • The Raging PlatypusThe Raging Platypus Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    I mean, really, though, why would she want to marry you, if she could be having hot, lesbian sex for the rest of her life, instead?

    'Cause marriage has tax benefits, but Florida just banned gay marriages, gay civil unions, gay friendships and everything else. So she's stuck.

    They haven't banned threesomes involving gerbils and strategically placed celery sticks, so there is that.

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  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    i am tube i like to make poast in locked threads becuz i am admin hurrrrrr


    This is gold.

  • ResRes __BANNED USERS
    edited November 2008
    Preacher wrote: »
    Res wrote: »
    Res wrote: »
    Question: Would Mirror's Edge be better if you couldn't use guns at all?

    It would be better than poorly implemented guns.

    Yes.

    So it's lazy for them to implement gunplay but not do it perfectly, but it's not lazy for them to just leave them out entirely?

    If you design a game that includes one poorly implemented dynamic, its retarded to claim that was your intention. "Man the shooting in gta sucks." "It's a driving game!"

    Except this isn't "They couldn't make the shooting better because it wasn't their main focus." It's "They deliberately limited the shooting to give the gameplay a certain style."

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Well, I dunno it's crazy but maybe the intent is more "we didn't make it a priority."

    I mean, the parkour in Fallout 3 is balls terrible but I think the excuse that it was not something they spent a ton of time on makes sense.

    See, I know you're kidding, but I'm going to make a point out of it.

    Complaining about bad parkour in Fallout 3 is silly. There is no parkour. It wasn't a background initiative. It's not in at all.

    If they did implement it, and advertised it, and then it sucked? It was buggy as hell. You constantly clipped through the walls. Buggy ledges, falling through worlds, overall bad implementation.

    You would be retarded to say, "But parkour is not the focus!"

  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Couscous wrote: »
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    I mean, really, though, why would she want to marry you, if she could be having hot, lesbian sex for the rest of her life, instead?

    'Cause marriage has tax benefits, but Florida just banned gay marriages, gay civil unions, gay friendships and everything else. So she's stuck.

    Isn't their a law saying basically if you're married in another state, your state has to recognize it. Didn't the wording of prop 2 go against that law?

    There is a law saying that your state doesn't have to recognize gay marriage in another state.

    That hurts my head.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Res wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Res wrote: »
    Res wrote: »
    Question: Would Mirror's Edge be better if you couldn't use guns at all?

    It would be better than poorly implemented guns.

    Yes.

    So it's lazy for them to implement gunplay but not do it perfectly, but it's not lazy for them to just leave them out entirely?

    If you design a game that includes one poorly implemented dynamic, its retarded to claim that was your intention. "Man the shooting in gta sucks." "It's a driving game!"

    Except this isn't "They couldn't make the shooting better because it wasn't their main focus." It's "They deliberately limited the shooting to give the gameplay a certain style."

    Man I need to start using that excuse.

    Sorry boss I deliberately limited my job performance because it wasn't my focus today.

  • Casual EddyCasual Eddy Fighting the War on String Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    as a gaymo I can't imagine anything less thrilling than hot lesbian sex

    oh boy

    you get to lick a vagina

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    And the Raven, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting
    On the pallid bust of Pallas just above my chamber door;
    And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming,
    And the lamplight o'er him streaming throws his shadow on the floor;
    And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor
    Shall be lifted — nevermore!

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  • PodlyPodly good moleman to youRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    as a gaymo I can't imagine anything less thrilling than not being able to establish a phallic signifier

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  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    as a gaymo I can't imagine anything less thrilling than hot lesbian sex

    oh boy

    you get to lick a vagina

    scissoring is always an option.

  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Well, I dunno it's crazy but maybe the intent is more "we didn't make it a priority."

    I mean, the parkour in Fallout 3 is balls terrible but I think the excuse that it was not something they spent a ton of time on makes sense.

    See, I know you're kidding, but I'm going to make a point out of it.

    Complaining about bad parkour in Fallout 3 is silly. There is no parkour. It wasn't a background initiative. It's not in at all.

    If they did implement it, and advertised it, and then it sucked? It was buggy as hell. You constantly clipped through the walls. Buggy ledges, falling through worlds, overall bad implementation.

    You would be retarded to say, "But parkour is not the focus!"
    Actually: Better example.

    The gunplay in Fallout 3 is bad

    The movement is bad.

    The gunplay is bad partially because VATS is designed to be used often, not simply as a last resort. And frankly, it's not a shooter, it's an open-ended RPG. The enemies are stupid, and you're not going to run into a lot of situations where a crack shot is necessary.

    The movement is bad because well, fuck it, you're just supposed to be able to walk. I'd like to be able to hop up ledges. I'd like to be able to climb or run faster than 2 miles a day, but hey it was not anywhere near the central focus of the gameplay.

    So. I am just saying that when a person spends shorter amounts of time on the less important aspects of a project I do not take offense.

  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Well, I dunno it's crazy but maybe the intent is more "we didn't make it a priority."

    I mean, the parkour in Fallout 3 is balls terrible but I think the excuse that it was not something they spent a ton of time on makes sense.

    See, I know you're kidding, but I'm going to make a point out of it.

    Complaining about bad parkour in Fallout 3 is silly. There is no parkour. It wasn't a background initiative. It's not in at all.

    If they did implement it, and advertised it, and then it sucked? It was buggy as hell. You constantly clipped through the walls. Buggy ledges, falling through worlds, overall bad implementation.

    You would be retarded to say, "But parkour is not the focus!"

    I like you, JK, but I think you'd have to be so fucking stupid to think you were going to get good gunplay out of Mirror's Edge. I mean I didn't even know guns were in the game at all until I played the demo. And then 80% of the demo is basically constructed around telling you "hey, you should run" and "sticking around to shoot people is fucking dumb you fucking dumb dumbfuck."

    So really, I think any complaints about Mirror's Edge's gameplay are completely baseless. If you were required to duke it out with 120 guards at the end of the game with guns or something, that's one thing. But I'm assuming that's not the case here. So, being a mere "option" without forcing you to putz around with the gunplay, there is no valid complaint.

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    as a gaymo I can't imagine anything less thrilling than hot lesbian sex

    oh boy

    you get to lick a vagina

    Lick it? Pfft.

    You outright bury your face in it. Rawrblgblrblgblrbgblrlgblrblrbglbrglrblrbglrlbrg

  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    So. I am just saying that when a person spends shorter amounts of time on the less important aspects of a project I do not take offense.

    I'm not taking offense exactly. I'm arguing a silly point of logic.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I like the gunplay in fall out 3, because if blowing an enemies head into shiny bits with a bolt action rifle is wrong. I don't wannabe right.

    Also fuck game trilogies, jesus tell one story good and then we'll talk about a sequel you assholes.

  • Casual EddyCasual Eddy Fighting the War on String Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Podly wrote: »
    as a gaymo I can't imagine anything less thrilling than not being able to establish a phallic signifier

    what... does this mean?

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Podly wrote: »
    as a gaymo I can't imagine anything less thrilling than not being able to establish a phallic signifier

    what... does this mean?

    He said you worship the cock?

  • PodlyPodly good moleman to youRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Ego certe laboro hic et laboro in meipsoL factus sum mihi terra difficultatis et sudoris nimii. "Assuredly I labor here and I labor within myself: I have become to myself a land of trouble and inordinate sweat."

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    I like you, JK, but I think you'd have to be so fucking stupid to think you were going to get good gunplay out of Mirror's Edge. I mean I didn't even know guns were in the game at all until I played the demo. And then 80% of the demo is basically constructed around telling you "hey, you should run" and "sticking around to shoot people is fucking dumb you fucking dumb dumbfuck."

    So really, I think any complaints about Mirror's Edge's gameplay are completely baseless. If you were required to duke it out with 120 guards at the end of the game with guns or something, that's one thing. But I'm assuming that's not the case here. So, being a mere "option" without forcing you to putz around with the gunplay, there is no valid complaint.


    This isn't an excuse for it to be bad though. Guns are weak? They slow you down too much? Maybe there's even no reloading because you can't pick-up clips? Those are fine design choices. Bad design, however, is not nothing.

    I remember Assassin's Creed. Complaining that the combat was poorly implemented was a valid complaint, even though the game was very much billed as a game of stealth and exploration. And I loved Assassin's Creed.

  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Preacher wrote: »
    I like the gunplay in fall out 3, because if blowing an enemies head into shiny bits with a bolt action rifle is wrong. I don't wannabe right.

    Also fuck game trilogies, jesus tell one story good and then we'll talk about a sequel you assholes.
    The trilogy thing definitely pisses me off.

    I get the impression the idea is that if the game fails, you've hedged your bet, and if it succeeds you'll get triple the cash. Only, in neither of those cases do I get any benefit.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Yeah AC had some very cool looking combat animations, just the combat itself was fairly bland.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Preacher wrote: »
    I like the gunplay in fall out 3, because if blowing an enemies head into shiny bits with a bolt action rifle is wrong. I don't wannabe right.

    Also fuck game trilogies, jesus tell one story good and then we'll talk about a sequel you assholes.
    The trilogy thing definitely pisses me off.

    I get the impression the idea is that if the game fails, you've hedged your bet, and if it succeeds you'll get triple the cash. Only, in neither of those cases do I get any benefit.

    Yeah that's the way I see it, if its a bad game or doesn't sell well, I never get a full story. If it's a decent game I get one story spread across 3 60 dollar chunks.

  • DerrickDerrick Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    What does parkour mean? I looked it up, and it doesn't seem to jive with how you guys are using it.

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Preacher wrote: »
    Yeah AC had some very cool looking combat animations, just the combat itself was fairly bland.

    And it forced you into a large battle at the end. That was bad. Not that you could do it. But that you had to. If the game had you storming a castle, where the combat was an option, but sneaking was as well, it would have been infinitely fucking better. I even might have done it both ways. But the lack of choice? Especially when it was a lack of choice that forced you into a gameplay element that felt lacking, and was the exact opposite of what was initially billed?

    Tsk tsk.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Derrick wrote: »
    What does parkour mean? I looked it up, and it doesn't seem to jive with how you guys are using it.

    Think of moving around in AC, leaping from building to building not following a street path.

  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Derrick wrote: »
    What does parkour mean? I looked it up, and it doesn't seem to jive with how you guys are using it.

    The city exploration, building hopping, climbing, etc.

    The game was built around the idea of running rather than gunning. But you still can gun. Guns are still part of the game. There are pages in the Mirror's Edge design document dedicated to guns.

    And those pages were scribbled by a drunk guy with his non-dominant hand.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Preacher wrote: »
    Yeah AC had some very cool looking combat animations, just the combat itself was fairly bland.

    And it forced you into a large battle at the end. That was bad. Not that you could do it. But that you had to. If the game had you storming a castle, where the combat was an option, but sneaking was as well, it would have been infinitely fucking better. I even might have done it both ways. But the lack of choice? Especially when it was a lack of choice that forced you into a gameplay element that felt lacking, and was the exact opposite of what was initially billed?

    Tsk tsk.

    Or like the gunplay in condemned 2. Man that game started out mediocre and ended poor. Dark is a visual choice, unable to see for shit is bad design.

  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Preacher wrote: »
    Yeah that's the way I see it, if its a bad game or doesn't sell well, I never get a full story.

    Advent Rising
    Preacher wrote: »
    If it's a decent game I get one story spread across 3 60 dollar chunks.

    Erm... Halo? I can't think of another successful trilogy.

  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Preacher wrote: »
    Or like the gunplay in condemned 2. Man that game started out mediocre and ended poor. Dark is a visual choice, unable to see for shit is bad design.

    What do you want, Pony-Land bright hallways? Effervescent fountains of rainbow hues?

    Dark is the focus!

  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Oboro wrote: »
    Man, I want to go back to bed, but waking up when it's nighttime fully-rested would break my circadian rhythm. :|

    And yet your rhythm is supposed to have been composed by Philip Glass.

    So screw it.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Preacher wrote: »
    Yeah that's the way I see it, if its a bad game or doesn't sell well, I never get a full story.

    Advent Rising
    Preacher wrote: »
    If it's a decent game I get one story spread across 3 60 dollar chunks.

    Erm... Halo? I can't think of another successful trilogy.

    And even then story wasn't a selling point in halo. I think we've reverted to 80s game design in a way. Gameplay is becoming more important then telling a coherent story.

  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    We totally should have gone with Podly's Frankenstein [chat]

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Preacher wrote: »
    Or like the gunplay in condemned 2. Man that game started out mediocre and ended poor. Dark is a visual choice, unable to see for shit is bad design.

    What do you want, Pony-Land bright hallways? Effervescent fountains of rainbow hues?

    Dark is the focus!

    Being able to see would have been nice. Oh and a non retarded story I mean come on what the fuck was that shit?

  • OboroOboro __BANNED USERS
    edited November 2008
    Oboro wrote: »
    Man, I want to go back to bed, but waking up when it's nighttime fully-rested would break my circadian rhythm. :|

    And yet your rhythm is supposed to have been composed by Philip Glass.

    So screw it.
    I traded it in, I have one from Steven Reich now!

    It loops a lot. :(

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Preacher wrote: »
    Look than, what makes you think any girl that Keenan would stick his love sausage into could get any kind of hot lesbian sex?

    All any lesbian needs is a good deep dicking. By proxy, of course, lesbians are intuitively, subconsciously attracted to wherever my penis has been.
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Imagine you are a chick who can have hot, lesbian sex anytime you want to, Preacher.

    How good of a person would it take for you to give that up? Exactly. And I don't think JamesKeenan is Jesus squared.

    I'm Jesus cubed.

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