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Bigoted charity?
Beren39
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So to summarize, Shinerama is a nationwide, Canadian post-secondary institute charity fundraiser for Cystic Fibrosis research. It's an ongoing annual tradition at many campuses (my own included) and is a great way to raise awareness and money for a terrible hereditary disease. As it stands, Carleton University appears to have cancelled their Shinerama for some pretty suspect reasons:
While I completely understand the desire to campaign for a movement with a more 'international' face, such as cancer research, it smacks of ignorance and racial bias to suggest that cystic fibrosis primarily affects males (it doesn't) and is simply a 'white man's disease'. While it is true that the allele responsible is found primarily in person's of northern european descent, is not the aim of such charitable acts to identify and aid suffering humans based upon their nature of being a fellow human in need, rather then a person of a certain ethnicity? How would the committee have responded in an alternative scenario, perhaps to a suggestion that they desist in raising money for the Sick Cell Society due to it's nature as a 'black man's disease'? As identified in the article, cystic fibrosis affects populations throughout the world rather then exclusively in the Western Hemisphere. I know there is almost always some kind of personal interest involved in charity "Celebrities only get involved in fundraising if a loved one gets cancer/whatever", but should we be playing this kind of politics?
So to summarize, Shinerama is a nationwide, Canadian post-secondary institute charity fundraiser for Cystic Fibrosis research. It's an ongoing annual tradition at many campuses (my own included) and is a great way to raise awareness and money for a terrible hereditary disease. As it stands, Carleton University appears to have cancelled their Shinerama for some pretty suspect reasons:
According to Bergamini, the motion read that orientation week strives to be inclusive and volunteers should feel like their fundraising efforts are serving a diverse community.
However, the motion went on to say that "and whereas cystic fibrosis has been recently revealed to only affect white people and primarily men, be it resolved that: CUSA discontinue its support of this campaign."
While I completely understand the desire to campaign for a movement with a more 'international' face, such as cancer research, it smacks of ignorance and racial bias to suggest that cystic fibrosis primarily affects males (it doesn't) and is simply a 'white man's disease'. While it is true that the allele responsible is found primarily in person's of northern european descent, is not the aim of such charitable acts to identify and aid suffering humans based upon their nature of being a fellow human in need, rather then a person of a certain ethnicity? How would the committee have responded in an alternative scenario, perhaps to a suggestion that they desist in raising money for the Sick Cell Society due to it's nature as a 'black man's disease'? As identified in the article, cystic fibrosis affects populations throughout the world rather then exclusively in the Western Hemisphere. I know there is almost always some kind of personal interest involved in charity "Celebrities only get involved in fundraising if a loved one gets cancer/whatever", but should we be playing this kind of politics?
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Well, Carleton isn't known for their genetics program or anything, but you think a committee, even a student body one, would, I don't know, employ some google-fu at least. I think it's also the idea that, even with the false 'facts' about CF, they don't wish to raise money for any 'white folks' disease.
Also, yes, this is retarded.
God damned white men and their cystic fibrosis.
This is why I pretty much didn't care when the Howard government killed student unions.
We run in fucking marathons to feed the homeless and lo, they refuse to give money because of this.
Yeah, I really don't miss student politics either. Its just depressing to note that that's where most of our adult politicians started out...
Somehow my heart fails to overflow with sympathy. Ten points for Uniondor.
This is slightly off topic.
But I listened to my uni lectures to help me remember them via recording.
And the first five minutes for like half the semester had some student jackoff telling us how awesome he was going to make shit I didn't care about or even know about, along with the standard "make centerlink give us more money" bullshit. It was always really loud and I had to snatch off my headphones every time or go deaf.
The best one, was when one of them tried to employ a freudian concept in the class because she was adressing psych students. When she leaves my lecturer is like "See! Everybody thinks about Freud first!" *angry face* (He hates Freud)
Yes, because an ROTC detachment can somehow convince the Joint Chiefs of Staff, The SecDef, and pretty much the entire Executive Branch to change a Military Reg they have absolutely no control of, and should be punished by their college, which ironically most likely gets huge federal funding in the first place because of that ROTC detachment being stationed there.
STFU about things you know absolutely nothing about.
You don't think a job program/club that does public works should get any funding?
It's messed up that the ROTC has to deal with that because the DoD and such can't get their shit together and end the half-assed bigotry that they're currently pushing, but that's life.
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Shinerama is a brilliant drive to take advantage of drunken idiocy and male posturing and other college mating rituals, turning it all into money for medical research.
If they want to support something else, they should lobby for that; I would understand wanting to support research for a more widespread disease. But cystic fibrosis is a fucking nasty disease, and certainly it's better to use Shinerama for that than nothing.
Carleton! Where the K stands for Quality! (It sounds better when you speak it, not when you type it).
edit: I'm only feeding this derail because there doesn't seem to be much to say about the primary topic
You do realize it's illegal to do what you're saying people in ROTC should do, right?
Like, as in breaking-UCMJ-thrown-in-prison illegal, right?
I knew you were dumb but wow, jesus.
I laughed at this, just because it's pretty evident how stupid this decision was.
Someone should e-mail your post to the head of that student council or whatever it was.
The point of ROTC is to prepare people for military careers, not make political statements.
Anyway, despite the fact that I believe "diversity" is disgustingly over-emphasized, I can't completely disagree with the SU's right to choose which charities to support and their opinion that they'd rather support charities that don't, for whatever reason, tend to help one race more than another.
Yeah, my girlfriend (who often takes care of CF kids who have received lung transplants, and still rarely make it to 30) will be annoyed when she gets this link
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http://www.giantitp.com/index.html#MZvsP18xmNXpVDwvCRQ
Stupid if you ask me.
And I dunno who the hell thought that would be an appropriate motion to put forward. Pretty pathetic.
Generally, I just want to take out student leaders and beat them with a heavy spiked mace. Over and over again. They do absolutely nothing. And they're nasty, nasty people. Most student groups are just generally groups of friends who believe that they should get the position because it's their 'turn'.
They have these useless plebicites which they organize, count the votes and campaign for. So you have "fair" election, where the people who are putting on the election are advertising that you should vote No so as not to be guilty of going against the group think.
The student government at Victoria University at UofT banned the Canadian Armed Forces from advertising at the Career Fair because they "commit war crimes".
The student government at York University banned funding for pro-life clubs, saying that "they respect the debate, but the debate should be done from a pro-choice perspective". I'm probably the most pro-Abortion person there is, but even I think this the most retarded shit.
Goddamn it I fucking hate student government.
hehehe
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Remarkable how a little media attention can make them change their tune, or at least backpeddle on their reasoning. I've always been pretty much indifferent to student government, they're pretty ineffectual by definition.
Right then; refer to parentheses. The government denies funding to groups that discriminate in some ways; this seems an appropriate model for student government as well. I'm out.
Which brings me to the point I wanted to make. . . I kind of dispute the notion that the union is being "bigoted" or racist (because they'll just tell you that you can't be racist against white people, which has a smidgen of merit). This is just the typical far-left yahoos who populate student unions taking things way too far in their fight against "imperialism" and "oppression". Speaking of which, apparently the student union at Queens in Kingston has started employing some sort of "conversation police". Not quite sure what it's all about though.
Here's an example: "White people suffer from this disease so fuck them "
Is what they would say to that.
Or something similarly foolish, more or less.
I'm afraid I'm not quite hitting Poe's Law-levels of mimicry here.
Eh. It seems as though being involved in the college republicans/democrats has been a pretty good line into real politics for more than a few of my former classmates.
Prejudice can be bi-directional. It's well established in psychological literature. The idea that you cannot be racist against the majority is, I'm afraid, lunacy, and anybody advocating such a thing needs to be heavily frowned upon.
I mean no offense, just take this as a too literal just checking sort of thing, I can't help it.