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Israel bans Arab political parties from elections
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Which is why the very first thing that I said was that I really hope the Israeli Supreme Court overturns this.
Just because I don't think it's racially motivated doesn't mean I'm defending it. It is an incredibly horrible thing to do.
Lincoln didn't start the war.
The South was losing money and resources to the North during the industrial revolution. The only way for the South to hold on to power and wealth was through the cotton and farming industry, which were so productive due to slave labor.
The North wanted to abolish slavery. The South wanted to hang onto it because it provided them with political leverage. By Thanatos' reasonins in this thread, every Southerner is a racist simply because of their government, regardless of whether or not there was a strong anti slavery push during the creation of the Confederacy.
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The excuse in the other thread was that those silly terrorists don't really mean that. They're just sayin...
I'm not saying that they are upfront, I am saying that we can't automatically assume that racism is what they are secretly hiding.
My wording may be a bit off, because I am distracted trying to make sure that I don't end up sounding like I am defending the vote itself.
Well then we are in agreement. Although I do suspect the reasons given are at least not the whole truth.
The thing is there are no valid political reasons for this. What would you say if Republicans wanted to ban Democrats due to opposition to the Iraq war? I can't see oh this action is justifiable in any way. I don't know much about the positions of every party in Knesset but are there any parties besides these two Arab ones that are against the war?
Essentially.
They're also asking the Supreme Court to reconsider their decision aginst using Palestinians as "human shields" (not firing from behind them, but sending them in first to attempt to negotiate with militants before troops run in guns-a-blazin').
I love how when you say something stupid and someone corrects you, you tell them they need to take that to another thread.
I never said that the reason was valid or justifiable. In fact, in the post that you quoted, I said it was absolutely the wrong thing for them to be doing.
And I assure you, there were Republicans out there who would have been in favor of banning the Dems from the election. Thankfully no one actually tried to do that (or tried very well, at least.)
No.
I mean effectually they've been shit on by the IDF in the past but not so much by Knesset, so were a ruling issued it would likely be obeyed.
Your claim was teh stoopidz! one. This is like Internet 101. The Lost Cause school of history was bullshit. The Civil War was about slavery.
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And Hamas is also a bit more racist (seriously, the Rotary club?) so I'd say it ought to balanced out, by your standards.
Find me an Israeli party made up completely of Jews which has the same stances as these two parties.
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Not Hamas. Palestine.
There is a difference between a people and it's government.
You can't see our point of view even a little bit? You can't even apply Occam's Fucking Razor and come to the conclusion that of random happenstance and delibrate deciscion, delibrate decision is by far the simplest solution?
ARE YOU THAT MUCH IN DENIAL OF YOUR COUNTRY'S DOUCHBAGGERY?
depending on the issue, sure
The difference is that one of those groups (Israeli gov and Hamas) has utterly absurd power, money, and international influence. Guess which one?
I'm sure we would if they'd make good on a promise not to slaughter Jews, provide them to terrorists, and not use them to shoot a woman who had the unfortunate displeasure of being raped. I'm sure we'd ask them to stop teaching that American's are Satan.
That'd be nice.
to the civilians?
nope.
I wouldn't comfortable with shipping any of those things to the Israeli civilians either
civilians just shouldn't own nukes
How about when I tell you to take it to another thread?
Does that also give you a warm fuzzy?
Maddie: "I am not!"
Riley: "You're a marsupial!"
Maddie: "I am a placental mammal!"
Right that is the only difference at all. :rotate:
You're right, one of them also controls the majority of the others' natural resources.
That's enough bait and switch, Thanatos.
If you read back over our conversation, I believe that we came to the determination that the Israeli PEOPLE and Palestinan PEOPLE were equally racist, with the Palestinian government being WORSE than the Israeli government (evened out by the fact that the Palestinians are in a worse predicament.) All of this falling under you stating that you can understand why they would be that way due to the situations that they are foced to live in.
And since when does racism get anyone on a terrorist list?
How does the socialist/communist party (Hadash?) feel about the Gaza conflict? Because they have a pretty balanced membership. Also they weren't banned.
Also (to another poster), Organichu isn't trolling, he just lives in Israel (AFAIK) so he sees everything they do through rose-colored glasses. I mean, judging by his earlier analogy his defense of these actions is "well it's not racist because those parties [that got kicked out] represent and are made up of murderers!"
EDITED to reflect that Origanchu doesn't think it's ok, just that it's not racist.
I love how, once I clarified my analogues, no one said shit (but continued to attack them in their original form). I speak English as a third language and there are literally a dozen+ people commenting on what I'm saying, and I'm responding to as many as I can- and yet there are still people in the background, not offering up any arguments, only 'yeah, you're dumb!' shouts over the commotion.
Now, I clarified exactly what I meant with my analogy, if you search my posts in this thread. If you want to call my analogies stupid, once I've fully clarified them, then quote me and explain what's wrong. I'm doing the best I can to respond to everyone. Go ahead and I'll do my best to explain what I meant, if you're still unclear.
First of all, stop straw manning me. I'm not denying "my country"'s nebulous activities. My first post in this thread was saying how terrible and deplorable it is what Israel's doing right now. I've condemned the activities fully. I just disagree with the alleged motivation for the activity, and the precise implications.
I'm also not 'failing to see [your] point'. I understand exactly what you're saying. The timing of this activity is curious, and it leads you to believe that there's 'something more'. I agree that there's something more going on behind the curtain. I believe there's a power play in Knesset to establish a more war mongering and expansive paradigm. I just don't think racism plays as large a role there as many of you choose to believe.
No, I don't have a defense of these actions. These actions are incredibly wrong as I've said multiple times. I've also clarified that analogy already. I'm not sure why everyone saw my first posts but not the posts following them.
Such as by banning representation for or fireboming the race they're biased against.
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