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First 100 Days: Day 9 - Of Cocktails and Cocksuckers

monikermoniker Registered User regular
edited January 2009 in Debate and/or Discourse
And so it begins. What will be the first items accomplished? How good will they be or how much will they suck? Will bipartisanship actually occur or will logjams get broken by sheer force of will? When will Harry Reid buckle under and capitulate? And who will he capitulate to? What's going to happen in the Middle East? How many times will the talking heads talk about the historic nature of the first black President signing a bill into law, and the first black President vetoing a bill, and the first black President using a pocket veto, and the first black President having a ceremony on the south lawn, and the first black President to host a state dinner, and the first black President to raid the white house ice cream stash....

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Let's do this thing.


Politifact: List of campaign promises and their status.
Wikipedia Article on the time line of the administration.

Accomplishments thus far:
Executive Orders-
  • Requiring the closure of Guantanamo Detention Center within 1 year. [citation]
  • Establishing the Army Field Manual as the standard for interrogation techniques for everyone. [citation]
  • Closing the 'black sites' and putting a halt to extraordinary rendition, and ordinary rendition, of prisoners or detainees. [citation]
  • Freezing the pay for all White House Staff earning a salary of over $100k. [citation]
  • Banning gifts from lobbyists and preventing administration officials from working as lobbyists for two years after leaving the White House or until the Administration is ended. [citation]
  • Ending the 'global gag rule' and permitting government funding to clinics that provide abortions. [citation]

Legislation Signed into Law-
  • Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act [citation]

Legislation Vetoed-
  • None.

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  • AegisAegis Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I will say, that's such an awesome Presidential photo.

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  • QinguQingu Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I'm not TOO concerned about this, but I am curious to see how Obama deals with the #1 proposal on change.gov—decriminalization/legalization of marijuana.

    He's said he's not for either throughout the campaign and transition, but then he also said the whole purpose of change.gov is to provide a platform for public initiatives.

  • AegisAegis Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    You know, if the US manages to decriminalize marijuana before we up here in Canada do I will just shake my head. Stupid Harper.

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  • FeralFeral Who needs a medical license when you've got style? Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Qingu wrote: »
    I'm not TOO concerned about this, but I am curious to see how Obama deals with the #1 proposal on change.gov—decriminalization/legalization of marijuana.

    I doubt that he will address it at all until his second term, unless somebody in Congress takes up that torch first, which I also doubt.

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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Feral wrote: »
    Qingu wrote: »
    I'm not TOO concerned about this, but I am curious to see how Obama deals with the #1 proposal on change.gov—decriminalization/legalization of marijuana.

    I doubt that he will address it at all until his second term, unless somebody in Congress takes up that torch first, which I also doubt.

    If it's truly that popular an issue, I'm sure someone will run with it eventually, though I guess it's equally plausible that you'll just see more lip service being paid to it.

    I don't even smoke marijuana, and I'd be surprised if the US legalized/decriminalized it before Canada did. Of course, it'd probably make doing so in Canada a cake walk, so a win for those who care either way.

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I'll be more than pleased with a well thought out Federal Aid package, one which isn't too greatly shrunk for Texas.

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  • Prot3usProt3us Registered User
    edited January 2009
    Aegis wrote: »
    You know, if the US manages to decriminalize marijuana before we up here in Canada do I will just shake my head. Stupid Harper.

    Isn't cannabis decriminalized in Canada already? I thought it was just a matter of legalization now. Or maybe I'm delving too deeply into semantics.

  • AegisAegis Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Prot3us wrote: »
    Aegis wrote: »
    You know, if the US manages to decriminalize marijuana before we up here in Canada do I will just shake my head. Stupid Harper.

    Isn't cannabis decriminalized in Canada already? I thought it was just a matter of legalization now. Or maybe I'm delving too deeply into semantics.

    It's technically illegal. Small amounts are thought to be unenforceable though if prosecuted, in pratice.
    In 2003 an Ontario court ruled simple possession laws banning cannabis unconstitutional,and in 2007 a Toronto judge ruled that Canada's pot possession laws are unconstitutional and that the country's medicinal marijuana regulations are flawed.

    So it's just a matter of us going "We're officially making this not illegal anymore."

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  • kdrudykdrudy Registered User
    edited January 2009
    Forar wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Qingu wrote: »
    I'm not TOO concerned about this, but I am curious to see how Obama deals with the #1 proposal on change.gov—decriminalization/legalization of marijuana.

    I doubt that he will address it at all until his second term, unless somebody in Congress takes up that torch first, which I also doubt.

    If it's truly that popular an issue, I'm sure someone will run with it eventually, though I guess it's equally plausible that you'll just see more lip service being paid to it.

    I don't even smoke marijuana, and I'd be surprised if the US legalized/decriminalized it before Canada did. Of course, it'd probably make doing so in Canada a cake walk, so a win for those who care either way.

    It's that popular an issue on the internet, that's the important part.

    edit: and I could use the correct tags maybe

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  • SyphonBrueSyphonBrue Registered User
    edited January 2009
    He hasn't done ANYTHING yet! I should have voted for McCain. He'd have had us in Iran 5 minutes into his speech.

  • HenroidHenroid Nobody Nowhere fastRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Feral wrote: »
    Qingu wrote: »
    I'm not TOO concerned about this, but I am curious to see how Obama deals with the #1 proposal on change.gov—decriminalization/legalization of marijuana.

    I doubt that he will address it at all until his second term, unless somebody in Congress takes up that torch first, which I also doubt.

    I don't think I've ever seen anyone talk about Obama's stance on this. I can't imagine it is too high up on the priority list, though freeing up prison cells would be nice.

    On another note, I completely forgot about this first 100 days deal. This is where the impression is made.

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  • Armored GorillaArmored Gorilla Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Henroid wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Qingu wrote: »
    I'm not TOO concerned about this, but I am curious to see how Obama deals with the #1 proposal on change.gov—decriminalization/legalization of marijuana.

    I doubt that he will address it at all until his second term, unless somebody in Congress takes up that torch first, which I also doubt.

    I don't think I've ever seen anyone talk about Obama's stance on this. I can't imagine it is too high up on the priority list, though freeing up prison cells would be nice.

    On another note, I completely forgot about this first 100 days deal. This is where the impression is made.

    Hell, the networks' bobbleheads are already talking about the first 100 hours. 100 days? Please. They want an extended 24, minute by minute coverage.

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  • CalibanCaliban Registered User
    edited January 2009
    In all honesty, only 20 year old kids and 50 year old deadheads care about legalizing marijuana. There are bigger fish to fry.

  • AegisAegis Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Caliban wrote: »
    In all honesty, only 20 year old kids and 50 year old deadheads care about legalizing marijuana. There are bigger fish to fry.

    Overgeneralizations, whee. :rotate:

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  • DrakeonDrakeon Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Caliban wrote: »
    In all honesty, only 20 year old kids and 50 year old deadheads care about legalizing marijuana. There are bigger fish to fry.

    I'd like to think some of the people who work in Corrections care about it, given what its doing to the prison system. That's not to say they do care about it, or want it legalized, just that I'd like to think they do.

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  • TK-42-1TK-42-1 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    if you take all the money spent on anti-pot ads and rehab and incareration and instead turned it into a tax revenue generating commodity i think it would make a significant difference

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  • AegisAegis Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    TK-42-1 wrote: »
    if you take all the money spent on anti-pot ads and rehab and incareration and instead turned it into a tax revenue generating commodity i think it would make a significant difference

    There was an article on this I just read. I should find it.

    Suffice it to say, they figure putting a tax on marijauna would bring in 11-30$ billion per year, enough to pay for the entire bailout plan of Obama's 10-year plan.

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  • Romero ZombieRomero Zombie Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Drakeon wrote: »
    Caliban wrote: »
    In all honesty, only 20 year old kids and 50 year old deadheads care about legalizing marijuana. There are bigger fish to fry.

    I'd like to think some of the people who work in Corrections care about it, given what its doing to the prison system. That's not to say they do care about it, or want it legalized, just that I'd like to think they do.

    Unless I'm mistaken, you don't go to big boy jail with marijuana unless you have a ton of it or were selling it. Most of the times the above referenced 20 year old kids and 50 year old dead heads have $20.00 worth of pot which MIGHT get them a day, but more likely a fine.

    On Obama though - I really doubt legalizing marijuana is high on the to do list. He has this whole war thing to worry about

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  • QinguQingu Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Caliban wrote: »
    In all honesty, only 20 year old kids and 50 year old deadheads care about legalizing marijuana. There are bigger fish to fry.
    Maybe these stereotypes approached some semblance of truth 15 or 20 years ago, but the world is changing. Progressing, even.

    Anyway, I'm kind of sorry I brought it up now because I don't want this to be a pot thread.

  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    CNN reporting: the new president has a nice signature. Very precise, and with a flourish.

  • FeralFeral Who needs a medical license when you've got style? Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    CNN reporting: the new president has a nice signature. Very precise, and with a flourish.

    FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT WITH A SIGNATURE!

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited January 2009
    Clearly legalizing pot is the largest issue facing this country right now.

  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    robothero wrote: »
    Clearly legalizing pot is the largest issue facing this country right now.

    It'd certainly be a lot easier than fixing the economy or Iraq.

    Other than the getting political support part.

  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Feral wrote: »
    CNN reporting: the new president has a nice signature. Very precise, and with a flourish.

    FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT WITH A SIGNATURE!
    He's so clean and presentable.

    In other news, we've got 4 years to prove we can save the world and another 4 after that to finish doing so. Let's do this.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Scooter wrote: »
    robothero wrote: »
    Clearly legalizing pot is the largest issue facing this country right now.

    It'd certainly be a lot easier than fixing the economy or Iraq.

    Other than the getting political support part.

    Yeah, while legalizing pot is an issue I agree should be adressed by our government, when the dude says "no, no I will not", and all signs point to him not doing that, and it would be political suicide to do that, and there are dozens of other potentially disasterous things going on already that should be dealt with, it really shouldn't be issue number one in any discussion.

  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited January 2009
    Feral wrote: »
    CNN reporting: the new president has a nice signature. Very precise, and with a flourish.

    FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT WITH A SIGNATURE!

    No no no - it's not that he has a signature. It's that it's so articulate.

  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited January 2009
    Scooter wrote: »
    robothero wrote: »
    Clearly legalizing pot is the largest issue facing this country right now.

    It'd certainly be a lot easier than fixing the economy or Iraq.

    Other than the getting political support part.

    Which would be a complete waste of time/resources given the other two stated issues.



    Unless you were being facetious to my facetious remark, in which case touche.

  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Scooter wrote: »
    robothero wrote: »
    Clearly legalizing pot is the largest issue facing this country right now.

    It'd certainly be a lot easier than fixing the economy or Iraq.

    Other than the getting political support part.

    Yeah, while legalizing pot is an issue I agree should be adressed by our government, when the dude says "no, no I will not", and all signs point to him not doing that, and it would be political suicide to do that, and there are dozens of other potentially disasterous things going on already that should be dealt with, it really shouldn't be issue number one in any discussion.
    The political capital burnt in legalizing marijuana simply wouldn't be worth it when you look at the other stuff that needs done right now. It's a very high-risk, low reward proposition. I mean, can you imagine the first black president leading the charge to legalize pot? Talk about a Fox News field day.

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  • FeralFeral Who needs a medical license when you've got style? Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    CNN reporting: the new president has a nice signature. Very precise, and with a flourish.

    FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT WITH A SIGNATURE!

    No no no - it's not that he has a signature. It's that it's so articulate.

    :lol: <3

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    robothero wrote: »
    Clearly legalizing pot is the largest issue facing this country right now.

    It'd certainly be a lot easier than fixing the economy or Iraq.

    Other than the getting political support part.

    Yeah, while legalizing pot is an issue I agree should be adressed by our government, when the dude says "no, no I will not", and all signs point to him not doing that, and it would be political suicide to do that, and there are dozens of other potentially disasterous things going on already that should be dealt with, it really shouldn't be issue number one in any discussion.
    The political capital burnt in legalizing marijuana simply wouldn't be worth it when you look at the other stuff that needs done right now. It's a very high-risk, low reward proposition. I mean, can you imagine the first black president leading the charge to legalize pot? Talk about a Fox News field day.

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood Slip Like Freudian. Playing Yourself Like Accordion.Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    When will Harry Reid buckle under and capitulate? And who will he capitulate to?

    1) Immediately
    2) First person he sees

    That is all.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Cloudman wrote: »
    When will Harry Reid buckle under and capitulate? And who will he capitulate to?

    1) Immediately
    2) First person he sees

    That is all.
    I don't know if poor Harry's brain can handle the tensions involved in capitulating to everyone. I expect the next couple of weeks to hold either a complete emotional breakdown or the emergence of another of his personalities that actually has a spine (and will probably spend more time standing up to Obama than Republicans).

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    robothero wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    robothero wrote: »
    Clearly legalizing pot is the largest issue facing this country right now.

    It'd certainly be a lot easier than fixing the economy or Iraq.

    Other than the getting political support part.

    Which would be a complete waste of time/resources given the other two stated issues.



    Unless you were being facetious to my facetious remark, in which case touche.



    I just wish everyone in congress would magically realize I'm right on this issue and end the war on drugs so we can move on. We could do it in a day!

    But if wishes were horses and beggers can't be choosers, then hobos would ride.

  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited January 2009
    Feral wrote: »
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    CNN reporting: the new president has a nice signature. Very precise, and with a flourish.

    FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT WITH A SIGNATURE!

    No no no - it's not that he has a signature. It's that it's so articulate.

    :lol: <3

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  • OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    kdrudy wrote: »
    Forar wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Qingu wrote: »
    I'm not TOO concerned about this, but I am curious to see how Obama deals with the #1 proposal on change.gov—decriminalization/legalization of marijuana.

    I doubt that he will address it at all until his second term, unless somebody in Congress takes up that torch first, which I also doubt.

    If it's truly that popular an issue, I'm sure someone will run with it eventually, though I guess it's equally plausible that you'll just see more lip service being paid to it.

    I don't even smoke marijuana, and I'd be surprised if the US legalized/decriminalized it before Canada did. Of course, it'd probably make doing so in Canada a cake walk, so a win for those who care either way.

    It's that popular an issue on the internet, that's the important part.

    This. All the Change.gov thing says is that it's a popular issue among democrats on the internet. Which is like a more liberal part of the internet, an already young and liberal "place", demographically speaking.

    He isn't going to touch it with a ten foot pole in his first term, and probably not in his second, either. If he does, there's a very good chance Congress won't play ball.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm all for decriminalization. But let's be realistic here.

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  • variantvariant Registered User
    edited January 2009
    I'd imagine his first term would look something this:

    Revitalizing the Economy
    Ending the War in Iraq
    Providing Health Care for All

  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood Slip Like Freudian. Playing Yourself Like Accordion.Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Cloudman wrote: »
    When will Harry Reid buckle under and capitulate? And who will he capitulate to?
    1) Immediately
    2) First person he sees

    That is all.
    I don't know if poor Harry's brain can handle the tensions involved in capitulating to everyone. I expect the next couple of weeks to hold either a complete emotional breakdown or the emergence of another of his personalities that actually has a spine (and will probably spend more time standing up to Obama than Republicans).
    Harry Reid is probably capitulating to somebody right now, as I type out these words.

    Dear lord, I can only imagine what kind of capitulating the guy does in the bedroom.

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  • OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    variant wrote: »
    I'd imagine his first term would look something this:

    Revitalizing the Economy
    Ending the War in Iraq
    Providing Health Care for All

    Point B, at least. The economy will have to revitalize itself, and universal health care isn't going to happen during his first term, not with the aforementioned economic crisis going on.

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  • FeralFeral Who needs a medical license when you've got style? Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    OremLK wrote: »
    variant wrote: »
    I'd imagine his first term would look something this:

    Revitalizing the Economy
    Ending the War in Iraq
    Providing Health Care for All

    Point B, at least. The economy will have to revitalize itself, and universal health care isn't going to happen during his first term, not with the aforementioned economic crisis going on.

    If he's smart he'll take a stepwise approach to healthcare, starting with expanded funding and eligibility for Medicaid and VA.

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    the "no true scotch, man" fallacy.
  • OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    That's pretty much what he promised in the campaign, isn't it? Not even universal healthcare, just expansion of government aid.

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