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I'm saying that Obama maniacs are just as screwy as the religious right. And they scare the crap out of me.
Now Mr. Pot, it's not nice to talk to Mr. Kettle like that.
You don't remember the religious right, do you? The fuckwits at Palin rallies screaming "KILL HIM" and calling everyone on the left wing "socialist communist terrorist-sympathisers".
You know what? Fuck you, you're clearly just trolling for lack of a better argument.
We must live in exceptionally different parts of the country, then. Which is odd as I live by Chicago and we're fairly proud of our 'favourite son.' Then again, people who want the world to burn out of spite seem rather screwy to me, if not frightening.
That is a fucking weird attitude, assuming I've read you right. To me it seems you are gunning for people to get so badly burned they just fuck off out of voting or getting involved in politics.
Pretty much.
The entire netroots organization and non stop emails to mail your senator if he doesn't go with Obama doesn't sit well with me. It's hard to put a finger on it, but something is just off here, really off. Plus the fanatical support for him. It seems like we are building a zombie political movement, much like what the right did with the religious nut jobs, just this one is moving at light speed.
I don't know where you get the idea that I'm for tax cuts, I was just talking about how we have to be careful with stuff like the "Buy American" provision because we could risk worsening the recession if we look protectionist, because your last line sounded like some of the arguments for the "Buy American" provision.
I wasn't talking about any of the other arguments or things you were talking about, so maybe it was a little off.
For some idiotic reason, creating substantial and immediate demand for jobs in a country that's desperately in need of them is not considered economically stimulating to some people (of questionable intelligence). I think that's the gist of that criticism.
Basically, they're looking at gun ranges and swimming pools and seeing two things:
1) We don't need gun ranges and swimming pools.
2) The government is spending money on gun ranges and swimming pools.
Therefore, the government is spending money on things we don't need.
They're completely fucking missing (or are incapable of understanding) the nuanced view, which looks more like this:
1) We don't need gun ranges and swimming pools.
2) The government is spending money on gun ranges and swimming pools.
3) But gun ranges and swimming pools improve our society.
4) Gun ranges and swimming pools require labor to build.
5) Much of our economic situation is caused by lack of demand for labor.
6) Our economic situation can be improved - substantially - by increasing demand for labor.
Therefore, the government is directly spending money on things we don't need in order to indirectly generate labor demand, which we do need.
This is to say nothing about the long-term benefits of having more swimming pools and gun ranges, additional revenue streams, and improving the temperament of the country to a degree that people won't be afraid to spend anymore.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that the people arguing that tax breaks are the solution (as opposed to certain types of tax breaks being part of the solution) are doing the political equivalent of some heavy-duty loom smashing.
EDIT: And I'm conceding the "don't need" part for the sake of argument. Infrastructural spending is absolutely necessary, but it's very easy to say that you don't need to spend on it until shit is breaking and falling apart, and that's exactly what we've been doing.
I'm just not seeing it. Maybe it's because I consider the fact that most people don't ever write their Congressional Representatives to be a pox on numerous houses and ultimately delegitimizing of the government. Also, what 'fanatical' support are you talking about?
That's because you suck at interpretation of motives. They're e-mailing their Senators because (gasp!) after supporting Obama's agenda throughout the primary and general elections, these people would like to see that agenda enacted. Your problem is with people being involved in the democratic process.
Nope. My problem is with people that don't know jack about it going gaga over him like the fundies went over Palin... it's the same sort of mania. Just now they are mobilized with non stop texts and emails to get their crazy on.
This is bad.
Not sure how well that would work out for them though.
You really do like to pick the most stone-cold retarded position held by fifteen-year olds and hold onto it by your teeth, don't you?
This strange and terrifying phenomenon you're talking about is called "enthusiasm." It might hurt a little to wrap your mind around the concept, but just hang in there.
Relatively well, though they never truly ignore the correspondence. You'll get a form letter or boilerplate e-mail in response to your 'interest' in whatever. If they actually care about how people feel regarding something there's a poll service out there with the stats for 'em. Not to mention simply how secure your district is so that you can do whatever you want or just need to toe the party line and explain it with their talking points in 30 seconds or less.
Round 2 of "Sociopath or Forum Troll"
Dude is trolling, nothing more. He wants to see people's dreams crushed for no other reason than they're involved in the process. Fuck him.
No, he's like this pretty much everywhere. Like the whaling thread, where he's calling any meat-eaters that denounce whaling a great big hypocrite.
The guy's pretty much the aggregate personification of That One Dude From High School (You Know the One).
Is this like the exciting game of "Bush: Evil or Stupid?"
yeah, in that they are each both.
They will pay attention when they get blasted by a ton of emails.
When you have a political organization, that is now blasting everybody who donated to them through a list of farmed emails, to email bomb their senator if he doesn't snap to and salute, there is a problem. That's what's going on now.
That "problem" is called the fucking political process you miserable sack of stupid.
If you want change, you CONTACT YOUR FUCKING REPRESENTATIVE.
/Hannity
CONTACT YOUR REPRESENTATIVE WITH THESE EXACT TALKING POINTS SENT TO YOU BY OBAMA, DO THIS OR YOU ARE NOT PART OF THE PROCESS, ALL MUST BE AS WE SAY
Uh, this is actually quite normal.
The CC field.
Oh, yeah, I totally forgot that people who know how to work a computer and contribute to a political campaign suddenly can't figure out what they are for and against.
Seriously, I know you think you're better then the entire electorate, but you could not be more wrong if you tried.
Says you. I've always found that someone's constituents only get trotted out to be used as a shield from criticism.
People are becoming involved in the political process. How...horrible?
The people are nothing more than robots. "oh Obama email, go gagagagagaa, email my senator, place form response in, yay I'm political", nope they are all retards.
You will OBEY the Obama, you will DO AS THE EMAIL commands, and they do!
If I could take back my vote I would.
I've gotten an actual response from my senator before, so I think they do respond and not just trot people out.
Well, that and the electorate apparently. The fools, why did they ever give non-land owning white males the vote?
Oh, I see. It's not that you hate how people are getting involved it's that you hate people. That would certainly make a Democratic Republic less enjoyable.
I wish you could take back your vote too. The fact that I am in any way associated with such a miserable excuse for a human being as yourself kind of fills me with disgust.