You are the only one talking about the formats on their own. We were talking about how each format is likely to be mastered. You came in and went NO GUYS THAT IS WRONG without reading any of the points made.
I am sorry but the amount of stupid in this post blew me away.
Let's say on a CD there are 5 whole songs I enjoy. Instead of spending 20 + dollars on a cd filled with 10 other songs I don't want, I can pay 5 bucks to get those 5 songs. Buying a cd at this point in time is really only a hobbiest thing to do.
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So really vinyl is preferred because it's generally mixed better? I've been listening to a lot of good and badly mixed music over the last couple months as my brother has learned to mix music so I can understand that.
I am sorry but the amount of stupid in this post blew me away.
Let's say on a CD there are 5 whole songs I enjoy. Instead of spending 20 + dollars on a cd filled with 10 other songs I don't want, I can pay 5 bucks to get those 5 songs. Buying a cd at this point in time is really only a hobbiest thing to do.
So really vinyl is preferred because it's generally mixed better? I've been listening to a lot of good and badly mixed music over the last couple months as my brother has learned to mix music so I can understand that.
Vinyl can typically hold more information than the CD, so when the music is pressed on the CD, it's compressed. Sometimes this compression results in clipping, and the quality and dynamics of the music really suffer. I haven't had the pleasure of listening to a vinyl setup, but I have several DVD-Audio disks, and they sound incredible, just because the sound hasn't been squashed to shit.
So really vinyl is preferred because it's generally mixed better? I've been listening to a lot of good and badly mixed music over the last couple months as my brother has learned to mix music so I can understand that.
Vinyl can typically hold more information than the CD, so when the music is pressed on the CD, it's compressed. Sometimes this compression results in clipping, and the quality and dynamics of the music really suffer. I haven't had the pleasure of listening to a vinyl setup, but I have several DVD-Audio disks, and they sound incredible, just because the sound hasn't been squashed to shit.
That's a product of the mastering, not the format. CDs can sound just fine.
I am sorry but the amount of stupid in this post blew me away.
Let's say on a CD there are 5 whole songs I enjoy. Instead of spending 20 + dollars on a cd filled with 10 other songs I don't want, I can pay 5 bucks to get those 5 songs. Buying a cd at this point in time is really only a hobbiest thing to do.
True, although sometimes if I know an album already has a few good songs on it I'll just buy the whole thing and give the band a chance to win me over with the rest of it too.
I am sorry but the amount of stupid in this post blew me away.
Let's say on a CD there are 5 whole songs I enjoy. Instead of spending 20 + dollars on a cd filled with 10 other songs I don't want, I can pay 5 bucks to get those 5 songs. Buying a cd at this point in time is really only a hobbiest thing to do.
So really vinyl is preferred because it's generally mixed better? I've been listening to a lot of good and badly mixed music over the last couple months as my brother has learned to mix music so I can understand that.
Vinyl can typically hold more information than the CD, so when the music is pressed on the CD, it's compressed. Sometimes this compression results in clipping, and the quality and dynamics of the music really suffer. I haven't had the pleasure of listening to a vinyl setup, but I have several DVD-Audio disks, and they sound incredible, just because the sound hasn't been squashed to shit.
That's a product of the mastering, not the format. CDs can sound just fine.
So if you bought the exact same cd and album say something that came out this year, would they both be mastered the same?
The only thing vinyl has going for it is that it's analog. There's no "bit rate" that could approach a continuous analog signal, it would have to be infinite and that's probably too much data to fit on one CD...
Actually you can fit infinite data on to a CD as long as you save it as a .zip file.
So really vinyl is preferred because it's generally mixed better? I've been listening to a lot of good and badly mixed music over the last couple months as my brother has learned to mix music so I can understand that.
Vinyl can typically hold more information than the CD, so when the music is pressed on the CD, it's compressed. Sometimes this compression results in clipping, and the quality and dynamics of the music really suffer. I haven't had the pleasure of listening to a vinyl setup, but I have several DVD-Audio disks, and they sound incredible, just because the sound hasn't been squashed to shit.
That's a product of the mastering, not the format. CDs can sound just fine.
So if you bought the exact same cd and album say something that came out this year, would they both be mastered the same?
If the CD is mastered towards loudness, then no. Vinyl has an inherent limit to how "hot" you can make it. With CD's and digital clipping and blowout, there is no limit.
So really vinyl is preferred because it's generally mixed better? I've been listening to a lot of good and badly mixed music over the last couple months as my brother has learned to mix music so I can understand that.
Vinyl can typically hold more information than the CD, so when the music is pressed on the CD, it's compressed. Sometimes this compression results in clipping, and the quality and dynamics of the music really suffer. I haven't had the pleasure of listening to a vinyl setup, but I have several DVD-Audio disks, and they sound incredible, just because the sound hasn't been squashed to shit.
That's a product of the mastering, not the format. CDs can sound just fine.
So if you bought the exact same cd and album say something that came out this year, would they both be mastered the same?
If the CD is mastered towards loudness, then no. Vinyl has an inherent limit to how "hot" you can make it. With CD's and digital clipping and blowout, there is no limit.
Ok cool, I will continue to explore this whole vinyl thing than. Sometimes an LP will come with a CD which is the most awesome thing ever.
So really vinyl is preferred because it's generally mixed better? I've been listening to a lot of good and badly mixed music over the last couple months as my brother has learned to mix music so I can understand that.
Vinyl can typically hold more information than the CD, so when the music is pressed on the CD, it's compressed. Sometimes this compression results in clipping, and the quality and dynamics of the music really suffer. I haven't had the pleasure of listening to a vinyl setup, but I have several DVD-Audio disks, and they sound incredible, just because the sound hasn't been squashed to shit.
That's a product of the mastering, not the format. CDs can sound just fine.
Yeah, of course. What I said was a bit of a generalisation.
If you want an example of good mastering to compare to bad mastering, compare Dark Side of the Moon, to any Mars Volta CD. I also hear the new Metallica CD sounds like shit.
I am sorry but the amount of stupid in this post blew me away.
Let's say on a CD there are 5 whole songs I enjoy. Instead of spending 20 + dollars on a cd filled with 10 other songs I don't want, I can pay 5 bucks to get those 5 songs. Buying a cd at this point in time is really only a hobbiest thing to do.
The Strokes have some fucking awful mastering on their CDs
to the point where it destroys whatever soundstage there might have been originally
guhhh
I absolutely love The Strokes, but I can now only listen to their music through my shitty PC speakers. It's torture to listen to them via my headphones/amp.
The Strokes have some fucking awful mastering on their CDs
to the point where it destroys whatever soundstage there might have been originally
guhhh
I absolutely love The Strokes, but I can now only listen to their music through my shitty PC speakers. It's torture to listen to them via my headphones/amp.
itunes does get pretty crappy once you have a lot of music to manage though, unless there's some secret i'm unaware of
i am not finding this to be the case
maybe on windows, but i didn't have problems even on windows when the size was maybe half of what i have now
I'm at roughly the same library size, give or take a few gigs, iTunes on Windows freaked the fuck out when I tried to re-import my library after reformatting. It just randomly skips songs while importing that are obviously there, not to mention I got huge slowdown when searching and using anything but list view. I was forced to switch to Winamp for now (and maybe Songbird once they have Watch Folders)
works great on OS X though
i had way the hell more than that on my other computer back down south (currently rebuilding library from scratch)
i'm actually liking winamp better for the most part now that i've gotten the tagging figured out
all i want is for it to list artists and albums instead of a huge list of every song
The Strokes have some fucking awful mastering on their CDs
to the point where it destroys whatever soundstage there might have been originally
guhhh
I absolutely love The Strokes, but I can now only listen to their music through my shitty PC speakers. It's torture to listen to them via my headphones/amp.
it's such a shame
I'm not sure if you're a fan, but you should give Sia - Colour the Small One a listen. It sounds pretty great.
when i was listening to the EP i didn't even realize he switched to electronic until No Dice kicked in with its more traditional drum machine sound and it was a "WHAT" moment
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I am sorry but the amount of stupid in this post blew me away.
Let's say on a CD there are 5 whole songs I enjoy. Instead of spending 20 + dollars on a cd filled with 10 other songs I don't want, I can pay 5 bucks to get those 5 songs. Buying a cd at this point in time is really only a hobbiest thing to do.
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to the point where it destroys whatever soundstage there might have been originally
guhhh
True, although sometimes if I know an album already has a few good songs on it I'll just buy the whole thing and give the band a chance to win me over with the rest of it too.
THE TOP 40
So if you bought the exact same cd and album say something that came out this year, would they both be mastered the same?
Actually you can fit infinite data on to a CD as long as you save it as a .zip file.
Ok cool, I will continue to explore this whole vinyl thing than. Sometimes an LP will come with a CD which is the most awesome thing ever.
If you want an example of good mastering to compare to bad mastering, compare Dark Side of the Moon, to any Mars Volta CD. I also hear the new Metallica CD sounds like shit.
Old Neil Young albums also sound superb.
Yeah, seriously.
maybe they allow one or two on the clean edit or something
but there are way more "Fuck"s on that album than the NPR chart shows
here's 'Fuck You': http://www.wordle.net/gallery/wrdl/570513/LilyAllen
edit: actually maybe the rest of them just overshadow it significantly, but it seems like there should be a lot more on that chart than there is
then I get home and put it on the stage monitors I have in my living room and it's just awful
i had way the hell more than that on my other computer back down south (currently rebuilding library from scratch)
i'm actually liking winamp better for the most part now that i've gotten the tagging figured out
all i want is for it to list artists and albums instead of a huge list of every song
i never liked that cover flow thing or the grid
i like itunes overall, though
if Winamp had a decent remote app it'd be just fine
i wish it ran a little smoother, but then again my PC is a shambling relic
normally i'd prefer foobar but winamp's library system is way better
also is this the new music thread
I'll just leave this here then:
REALPEOPLE IS THE NEW POSTAL SERVICE
can't find it though
i want more
when i was listening to the EP i didn't even realize he switched to electronic until No Dice kicked in with its more traditional drum machine sound and it was a "WHAT" moment
And I don't see it getting beat any time soon