Not just brutal. But retarded brutal. He could've killed him. Or at least paralyzed him.
Yea, that's what I mean. Though the match wasn't THAT great either, mainly cause those two had already raised the bar pretty high when it came to do doing stunts like that.
I'm always split on those type of matches and moments. A part of me loves them(The moonsault and diving headbutt of the cage are two of my favorites), but at the same time, doing those type of moves seriously had to fuck up their heads.
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I think the whole cruiser weight thing can be solved if they brought back Gillberg.
I would like to see them put more of the midcards in ECW and keep the big names in smackdown/raw. ECW seems to have like the same 8 wrestlers and No one else. Specially now that they can't feed jobber after jobber to the boogie man. By making one of their shows their developmental show they can let the midcarders get their own story lines and such while not making it to where a skinny 180 pound guy can go toe to toe in a fist fight with taker, kane, or big show. And damn it. They need to bring the Hardcore belt out of retirement.
I think the whole cruiser weight thing can be solved if they brought back Gillberg.
I would like to see them put more of the midcards in ECW and keep the big names in smackdown/raw. ECW seems to have like the same 8 wrestlers and No one else. Specially now that they can't feed jobber after jobber to the boogie man. By making one of their shows their developmental show they can let the midcarders get their own story lines and such while not making it to where a skinny 180 pound guy can go toe to toe in a fist fight with taker, kane, or big show. And damn it. They need to bring the Hardcore belt out of retirement.
Wouldn't that be the ECW Championship? I mean, ECW does stand for Extreme Championship Wrestling.
Not like the WWE would know it anymore though, I guess. When was the last time there was an 'extreme rules' match? I think RAW has had more 'no holds barred' matches THIS year than ECW has in the last year...
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I think the whole cruiser weight thing can be solved if they brought back Gillberg.
I would like to see them put more of the midcards in ECW and keep the big names in smackdown/raw. ECW seems to have like the same 8 wrestlers and No one else. Specially now that they can't feed jobber after jobber to the boogie man. By making one of their shows their developmental show they can let the midcarders get their own story lines and such while not making it to where a skinny 180 pound guy can go toe to toe in a fist fight with taker, kane, or big show. And damn it. They need to bring the Hardcore belt out of retirement.
Wouldn't that be the ECW Championship? I mean, ECW does stand for Extreme Championship Wrestling.
Not like the WWE would know it anymore though, I guess. When was the last time there was an 'extreme rules' match? I think RAW has had more 'no holds barred' matches THIS year than ECW has in the last year...
Thats pretty much my issue with the ECW brand now as a whole. If you were going to let people brutalize each other and maybe be a bit more PG-13 ECW would be the venue for it. I mean hell its on scIFi. Blood isn't new to the channel.
I think the whole cruiser weight thing can be solved if they brought back Gillberg.
I would like to see them put more of the midcards in ECW and keep the big names in smackdown/raw. ECW seems to have like the same 8 wrestlers and No one else. Specially now that they can't feed jobber after jobber to the boogie man. By making one of their shows their developmental show they can let the midcarders get their own story lines and such while not making it to where a skinny 180 pound guy can go toe to toe in a fist fight with taker, kane, or big show. And damn it. They need to bring the Hardcore belt out of retirement.
Wouldn't that be the ECW Championship? I mean, ECW does stand for Extreme Championship Wrestling.
Not like the WWE would know it anymore though, I guess. When was the last time there was an 'extreme rules' match? I think RAW has had more 'no holds barred' matches THIS year than ECW has in the last year...
Thats pretty much my issue with the ECW brand now as a whole. If you were going to let people brutalize each other and maybe be a bit more PG-13 ECW would be the venue for it. I mean hell its on scIFi. Blood isn't new to the channel.
Also, bad acting.
I know there's the "Extreme Rules" PPV coming up in a few months, so that's where they'll go 'all out'(or however much out they can anymore at least) with the 'extreme', maybe ECW might have one or two beforehand as a 'preview'.
Also, I don't think there should be any reason why ECW Championship matches aren't always held under 'extreme rules' conditions.
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Its because its not ECW anymore, its effectively PGCW now. I enjoyed it when they used to have atleast one Extreme rules match a night, and gave it more of a glamerous old ECW feel with the entrance and such. It was so different then Raw and SmackDown so it made it worth watching. Well, except for the fact that I think it was Rick Flair vs. RVD (I know it was a flair match) was very soon on one of the "greatest ECW matches" dvds put out by WWE. That made me really sad.
And they built up his feud with Edge...only to have Edge beat him. And then it just sorta ended and Edge stayed in the championship fight, and Matt went back to doing nothing special. At least from what I remember.
They had a whole bunch of matches, and I thik Matt maybe won like one of them. Most of the feud was Matt getting his ass handed to him. They weren't booked as anywhere close to equals, it sucked.
They had a whole bunch of matches, and I thik Matt maybe won like one of them. Most of the feud was Matt getting his ass handed to him. They weren't booked as anywhere close to equals, it sucked.
They do that all the time, witness Punks non reign as champ, or fucking Jeff Hardy who never really defended the belt honestly ever.
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It's cause they're both risk takers and high flyers (Shawn for his time.)
The HUGE difference is that Michaels can actually wrestle, where as Jeff is a all spots, all the time. Can anyone seriously name 5 great matches involving Jeff that don't include ladders/tables/chairs?
Jeff vs. Triple H tend to be pretty decent matches, and his Umaga matches weren't bad.
Personally, my problem with Jeff is he is one of those wrestlers that has a decent amount of notable moves, but the people who control the matches make him do almost all of them every match. So we always get that one where someone grabs his foot, and he flips around into a donkey kick or something, I dunno what its called, we get whisper in the wind, we get the double kick to the person in the corner, usually a twist of fate followed by a swanton bomb, and I think one or two others.
It becomes more annoying when it happens each and every week over and over... against the same person like his fued with Umaga. So he can have good matches, I just don't like watching them too close to one another.
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edited March 2009
Is there any way to watch Raw, Smackdown and ECW online? Preferably streaming legally... Hulu has some ECW, but it's all outdated. I'd like to get into watching wrestling again for fun, but I don't have tv where I'm at.
Is there any way to watch Raw, Smackdown and ECW online? Preferably streaming legally... Hulu has some ECW, but it's all outdated. I'd like to get into watching wrestling again for fun, but I don't have tv where I'm at.
They used to put ECW on WWE.com the day after it was on...
Is there any way to watch Raw, Smackdown and ECW online? Preferably streaming legally... Hulu has some ECW, but it's all outdated. I'd like to get into watching wrestling again for fun, but I don't have tv where I'm at.
They used to put ECW on WWE.com the day after it was on...
Former WWE star Andrew "Test" Martin was found dead in his Tampa, Fla.
apartment on Friday night, according to a report by PWInsider.com.
Martin was 33 years old and nearing his birthday on March 17.
After being released by WWE in 2006 when he was on the ECW brand,
Martin re-surfaced in TNA where he had a brief run until being
released from the company.
Martin semi-retired from pro wrestling, then he was arrested on a
drunk driving charge in Florida one year ago.
Martin was formerly in a relationship with WWE diva Kelly Kelly, who
said in a February interview on the Bubba Love Sponge radio show that
they remained close friends after their relationship ended.
Asked if Martin being released from WWE while Kelly was still with WWE
had an effect on their relationship, Kelly said that was a strong
factor.
"He's never been one at home waiting around," Kelly said. "He's on the
other side of the coin now. I think that had a lot to do with it." She
said Martin was planning to attend school to become a personal
trainer.
No further details on the cause of death are known right now.
That sucks. Test did some good stuff. I liked the Test/Steph/HHH love triangle, and without Test, there would have been no T&A, and therefore no Trish Stratus.
Former WWE star Andrew "Test" Martin was found dead in his Tampa, Fla.
apartment on Friday night, according to a report by PWInsider.com.
Martin was 33 years old and nearing his birthday on March 17.
After being released by WWE in 2006 when he was on the ECW brand,
Martin re-surfaced in TNA where he had a brief run until being
released from the company.
Martin semi-retired from pro wrestling, then he was arrested on a
drunk driving charge in Florida one year ago.
Martin was formerly in a relationship with WWE diva Kelly Kelly, who
said in a February interview on the Bubba Love Sponge radio show that
they remained close friends after their relationship ended.
Asked if Martin being released from WWE while Kelly was still with WWE
had an effect on their relationship, Kelly said that was a strong
factor.
"He's never been one at home waiting around," Kelly said. "He's on the
other side of the coin now. I think that had a lot to do with it." She
said Martin was planning to attend school to become a personal
trainer.
No further details on the cause of death are known right now.
That sucks. Test did some good stuff. I liked the Test/Steph/HHH love triangle, and without Test, there would have been no T&A, and therefore no Trish Stratus.
And Jake Roberts lives on...
Didn't he date Stacy Keibler? I would consider that the highlight. Also, I always liked his pump-handle powerslam. (That doesn't sound gay.)
Didn't he date Stacy Keibler? I would consider that the highlight. Also, I always liked his pump-handle powerslam. (That doesn't sound gay.)
I believe he did date Stacy, and according to this article, he was also banging Kelly Kelly. I mean, those two things alone are more than enough reason to live.
Personally, my problem with Jeff is he is one of those wrestlers that has a decent amount of notable moves, but the people who control the matches make him do almost all of them every match.
The people who control what moves the wrestlers do in the match would be the wrestlers in the match. That one's on Jeff himself.
Sucks about Test. I remember really liking the Test/Shane O'Mac match. And then he went nowhere after that.
Whoa, that's crazy news. Do they say what he died off? Although I'm sure we are all thinking the same thing.
He really could have been a star, but they never did anything with him after the HHH/Steph angle. He had a ready made feud there, but HHH fought him once and beat him pretty definately.
No, too early to know what the cause of death is. Given that he was so young, I'd have to wager either an OD, or physical problems brought about by steroid/drug use. Another wrestler dying so young makes you wonder what sort of shit these guys go through. It's weird to see a wrestling match from '96 or something and realize that not one single guy involved is alive anymore. I think I was watching an old Royal Rumble or something and there were at least 6 or 7 participants that aren't around.
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edited March 2009
Man, that's fucking mindblowing...I guess after the Benoit debacle, it really was only a matter of time before someone else died. I'm surprised it took this long. I felt like what happened with Benoit served to wake everyone up a little bit. I guess it was inevitable that someone else would die, though.
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Damn...It's sad to see such a young death. And from that article it seemed like he had a plan for the future beyond wrestling.
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Yea, that's what I mean. Though the match wasn't THAT great either, mainly cause those two had already raised the bar pretty high when it came to do doing stunts like that.
I'm always split on those type of matches and moments. A part of me loves them(The moonsault and diving headbutt of the cage are two of my favorites), but at the same time, doing those type of moves seriously had to fuck up their heads.
I would like to see them put more of the midcards in ECW and keep the big names in smackdown/raw. ECW seems to have like the same 8 wrestlers and No one else. Specially now that they can't feed jobber after jobber to the boogie man. By making one of their shows their developmental show they can let the midcarders get their own story lines and such while not making it to where a skinny 180 pound guy can go toe to toe in a fist fight with taker, kane, or big show. And damn it. They need to bring the Hardcore belt out of retirement.
Wouldn't that be the ECW Championship? I mean, ECW does stand for Extreme Championship Wrestling.
Not like the WWE would know it anymore though, I guess. When was the last time there was an 'extreme rules' match? I think RAW has had more 'no holds barred' matches THIS year than ECW has in the last year...
Thats pretty much my issue with the ECW brand now as a whole. If you were going to let people brutalize each other and maybe be a bit more PG-13 ECW would be the venue for it. I mean hell its on scIFi. Blood isn't new to the channel.
Also, bad acting.
I know there's the "Extreme Rules" PPV coming up in a few months, so that's where they'll go 'all out'(or however much out they can anymore at least) with the 'extreme', maybe ECW might have one or two beforehand as a 'preview'.
Also, I don't think there should be any reason why ECW Championship matches aren't always held under 'extreme rules' conditions.
That was right when I was back into wrestling. It was amazing. They had such a great chance there...and they blew it, of course.
Well, it did get Matt his job back.
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They do that all the time, witness Punks non reign as champ, or fucking Jeff Hardy who never really defended the belt honestly ever.
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Still, really funny out of context.
Man, Trips has a huge ass nose. I mean, I know it was big, but god damn. That last shot of him in the cop car was so unflattering.
Guess you have to have a nose that big to brown nose Vince's ego enough to marry into the family.
Seeing as Matt has a slur and Jeff doesn't. If Creative does a better job, Jeff could actually be the new HBK.
People have been saying that for years. I honestly have never seen it.
The HUGE difference is that Michaels can actually wrestle, where as Jeff is a all spots, all the time. Can anyone seriously name 5 great matches involving Jeff that don't include ladders/tables/chairs?
Personally, my problem with Jeff is he is one of those wrestlers that has a decent amount of notable moves, but the people who control the matches make him do almost all of them every match. So we always get that one where someone grabs his foot, and he flips around into a donkey kick or something, I dunno what its called, we get whisper in the wind, we get the double kick to the person in the corner, usually a twist of fate followed by a swanton bomb, and I think one or two others.
It becomes more annoying when it happens each and every week over and over... against the same person like his fued with Umaga. So he can have good matches, I just don't like watching them too close to one another.
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They used to put ECW on WWE.com the day after it was on...
And they still do:
http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/ecwreplay/
Ah, cool. I didn't even think to check the WWE site.
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And Jake Roberts lives on...
Didn't he date Stacy Keibler? I would consider that the highlight. Also, I always liked his pump-handle powerslam. (That doesn't sound gay.)
I believe he did date Stacy, and according to this article, he was also banging Kelly Kelly. I mean, those two things alone are more than enough reason to live.
Wow, how Naive was I.
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The people who control what moves the wrestlers do in the match would be the wrestlers in the match. That one's on Jeff himself.
Sucks about Test. I remember really liking the Test/Shane O'Mac match. And then he went nowhere after that.
He really could have been a star, but they never did anything with him after the HHH/Steph angle. He had a ready made feud there, but HHH fought him once and beat him pretty definately.