Team Fortress 2 : Pictograph Edition

GreenPowerRanger · March 2009

Edcrab wrote: »

Last night iowa proved that the FaN's triple jump does, in fact, have its uses

On Goldrush 1:2 Icemopper and I quite literally killed the defenders twice over as snipers from the corner battlements and then BLAM-BLAM iowa would fly in through the opening and spread our Australian faces across the walls

Also, I'm still finding the "ruined" Sandman pretty useful. It might half damage, but to a halfway competent sniper a stunned support class is still a free kill. And getting behind three stunned guys as a backburner pyro was fantastic.

I imagine the same goes for spy, free kills are always good

Lagnar · March 2009

JonnyBot wrote: »

I can vouch for Lagnar. Lagnar is my brah.

All brahs are equal, but some brahs are more equal than others.

Houn · March 2009

Edcrab wrote: »

"ruined" Sandman

Wait wha?

Domhnall · March 2009

Stunned folk don't take as much damage.

Lagnar · March 2009

Houn wrote: »

Edcrab wrote: »

"ruined" Sandman

Wait wha?

They have it so now someone who is stunned takes less damnage, 50% I belive.

Oh and at close range it will bounce off or something along those lines. Well, ive heard this, im yet to actually see it happen.

Houn · March 2009

That's stupid. It's annoying because you're stunned, not because you take damage while stunned.

savooipeerd · March 2009

But because it's less useful, less scouts will use it and as a result you will get stunned less.

Maybe.

SithDrummer · March 2009

I thought it was more annoying that you were guaranteed to die in 99% of all cases. Now it's much less.

PMAvers · March 2009

Some screenshots from last night:

Spoiler:

Lagnar · March 2009

PMAvers wrote: »

Some screenshots from last night:

Spoiler:

Bring me the head of...

He flies through the air, into the greatest of death-pits...

I'm... not quite sure what that Soldier's doing.

Iowa: doing what he does best.

What was that last map called anyways? I came on whent there was under a minute left and didnt get to do much but it was really fun.

PMAvers · March 2009

Lagnar wrote: »

What was that last map called anyways? I came on whent there was under a minute left and didnt get to do much but it was really fun.

That was Redfort. It wasn't too bad, for the very first version that was released.

Zek · March 2009

SithDrummer wrote: »

I thought it was more annoying that you were guaranteed to die in 99% of all cases. Now it's much less.

it also sucks butt

chrono_traveller · March 2009

I don't believe any of these stories about last night, 'cause no one was on when I logged on.

No one.

...

And that made me sad. :cry:

So, I went to a pub server I play on somewhat frequently, and it was a horrible game. So, I blame you guys.

Icemopper · March 2009

chrono_traveller wrote: »

I don't believe any of these stories about last night, 'cause no one was on when I logged on.

No one.

...

And that made me sad. :cry:

So, I went to a pub server I play on somewhat frequently, and it was a horrible game. So, I blame you guys.

Steam was down for part of the night, so things would have looked bleak, but they were not, in fact, bleak.

SithDrummer · March 2009

Zek wrote: »

SithDrummer wrote: »

I thought it was more annoying that you were guaranteed to die in 99% of all cases. Now it's much less.

it also sucks butt

now they need to make the drawback something less valuable than losing the double jump

the internal, scout-only balance of benefit/drawback for the sandman was originally fine, the problem was its balance with regard to the other classes

now they fixed the second bit but the first is off

Zek · March 2009

SithDrummer wrote: »

Zek wrote: »

SithDrummer wrote: »

I thought it was more annoying that you were guaranteed to die in 99% of all cases. Now it's much less.

it also sucks butt

now they need to make the drawback something less valuable than losing the double jump

the internal, scout-only balance of benefit/drawback for the sandman was originally fine, the problem was its balance with regard to the other classes

now they fixed the second bit but the first is off

No, the double jump is a good tradeoff given the objective of the weapon. It's supposed to be a major Scout buff when used in maps like Dustbowl/Gold Rush. Giving Scouts double jump back wouldn't change the fact that they're terrible on those maps. They need to make the effect something powerful enough to justify losing the jump. It was balanced before, they just need to make the effect less annoying to the victim.

The_Scarab · March 2009

I think one way to change it would be to not cut to third person when you are stunned like when taunting. I find that annoying, can't really articulate why though.

chrono_traveller · March 2009

Zek wrote: »

It was balanced before, they just need to make the effect less annoying to the victim.

I think not automatically dieing is an effect less annoying to the victim.

Ok, so thats a slight exaggeration, but I'd love to see breakdowns of what percentage of scouts use the sandman and on what maps. I think that would go along way to see if there needs to be some tweaking of the tradeoff for the sandman.

Fuga · March 2009

And make it so while under the effects of the drink you're still in first person.

John Zoidberg · March 2009

Kritz, Kritz, You So Fine, You So Fine You Blow My Mind.. Hey Kritz.

jonxp · March 2009

Hey guys, there is a password on the IRC channel for a bit. You know what it is.

Houn · March 2009

jonxp wrote: »

Hey guys, there is a password on the IRC channel for a bit. You know what it is.

There's a PA TF2 IRC channel? When did this happen? Why wasn't I informed?!

TK-42-1 · March 2009

Houn wrote: »

jonxp wrote: »

Hey guys, there is a password on the IRC channel for a bit. You know what it is.

There's a PA TF2 IRC channel? When did this happen? Why wasn't I informed?!

it's been in the op for the last 3 threads.

also, fuck the sandman. anything negative done to it is fine in my book.

Houn · March 2009

TK-42-1 wrote: »

Houn wrote: »

jonxp wrote: »

Hey guys, there is a password on the IRC channel for a bit. You know what it is.

There's a PA TF2 IRC channel? When did this happen? Why wasn't I informed?!

it's been in the op for the last 3 threads.

also, fuck the sandman. anything negative done to it is fine in my book.

I haven't been following the threads since the Great Meat Fortress Locking. >.>

Dark_Side · March 2009

God I hate that Sandman, I'd much prefer that instead of being completely stunned, it would just slow you way down for a short bit.

WickerBasket · March 2009

Dark_Side wrote: »

God I hate that Sandman, I'd much prefer that instead of being completely stunned, it would just slow you way down for a short bit.

Why not just make it disorientate the target like the conc grenades in Team Fortress Classic? Maybe make it a bit more exagerated.

At least then the player would have some feeling of control rather than praying the other player misses. Watching myself get killed from third person while I can't do anything is just irritating.

SithDrummer · March 2009

WickerBasket wrote: »

Dark_Side wrote: »

God I hate that Sandman, I'd much prefer that instead of being completely stunned, it would just slow you way down for a short bit.

Why not just make it disorientate the target like the conc grenades in Team Fortress Classic? Maybe make it a bit more exagerated.

At least then the player would have some feeling of control rather than cussing watching his character get mauled from third person.

Experienced players were able to compensate for the concussion in TFC, making the grenade solely useful for knocking the guy around and grenade jumping.

WickerBasket · March 2009

SithDrummer wrote: »

WickerBasket wrote: »

Dark_Side wrote: »

God I hate that Sandman, I'd much prefer that instead of being completely stunned, it would just slow you way down for a short bit.

Why not just make it disorientate the target like the conc grenades in Team Fortress Classic? Maybe make it a bit more exagerated.

At least then the player would have some feeling of control rather than cussing watching his character get mauled from third person.

Experienced players were able to compensate for the concussion in TFC, making the grenade solely useful for knocking the guy around and grenade jumping.

I know, I used to play it a lot. I'm just saying something exagerated like that would be good. Like a drunk effect, maybe make the screen blurry.

Dark_Side · March 2009

Honestly, I don't see how it made it out of valve's testing, did the testers not find it as annoying as we all have? It's cool I guess, and true you can dodge, but sitting there stunned while half the opposing team takes their opportunity shots gets real fucking old.

SithDrummer · March 2009

...testing?

Yontouryu · March 2009

Hey! Anyone with Friday off should come play some TF2 with us in JonXP's server!

marty · March 2009

SithDrummer wrote: »

...testing?

This may not be a well publicised fact, but Valve actually thought up their concepts and designed them on the day they announced them on the scout updates page. Which explains why the "Release day" feature was soooooo awesome, it's like they knew when to release the patch

InfestedGnome · March 2009

I am not sure if it would make it more or less annoying if the sandman just knocked the weapon out of your hands so you couldn't shoot, but could still move.

GreenPowerRanger · March 2009

Yontouryu wrote: »

Hey! Anyone with Friday off should come play some TF2 with us in JonXP's server!

right now?

c4tch · March 2009

man so... i hate soldiers...

so recently i've decided to embrace the hatred, and spread my experienced misery to others.

soldier in this way is quite, quite fun. If you can get a medic to cover your ass you can go on some tremendous killing sprees.

There was one push I played earlier today on granary taking back the middle cp when I must have killed seven of the opposite team in a row, back to back.

"oh hi let me slay 60% of their forces, please get on point coward baby magets."

so fun.

Bruce Forsyth · March 2009

Peewi wrote: »

TechBoy wrote: »

RCagent wrote: »

Anyone with some technical skills want to explain why whenever I click on refresh all on the server listing my internet goes and I have to reset my modem again?

Normally I wouldn't give such a detailed, pedantic response, but you asked for technical...

Spoiler:

Gnomes

Fuck you guys. Stop blaming gnomes!

c4tch · March 2009

sometimes it just takes a while for my server list to refresh after i click the button, but nothing like my modem needing to be reset...

but i do have the problem of having numerous servers on my favorites list that just don't show up when i click refresh, and I have no idea why

WickerBasket · March 2009

c4tch wrote: »

man so... i hate soldiers...

so recently i've decided to embrace the hatred, and spread my experienced misery to others.

soldier in this way is quite, quite fun. If you can get a medic to cover your ass you can go on some tremendous killing sprees.

There was one push I played earlier today on granary taking back the middle cp when I must have killed seven of the opposite team in a row, back to back.

"oh hi let me slay 60% of their forces, please get on point coward baby magets."

so fun.

I don't know why but the bolded part made me smile.

c4tch · March 2009

now that your avatar is animated... it makes so much more sense, wicker

for the longest time I thought that it was a dual-handle bonesaw with a funny end or something.

Yontouryu · March 2009

GreenPowerRanger wrote: »

Yontouryu wrote: »

Hey! Anyone with Friday off should come play some TF2 with us in JonXP's server!

right now?

Yes

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