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Crows, the subtle lords and masters of humanity, have long been recognised for their intelligence. In Aesop's Fable, The Crow and the Pitcher, the virtue of ingenuity is portrayed when a crow comes across a water pitcher that is too narrow and deep for the crow to get water from, so the crow proceeds to drop pebbles one-by-one until the water is high enough for it to drink. In Norse mythology, there are two notable crows Hugin and Munin, which represented thought and memory respectively. In the timeless poem, "The Raven", a crow (a raven is a crow) torments the narrator.
Apparently, a species of crow is one of the few species that has learned how to feed on the toxic cane toad. The cane toad apparently has a very poisonous skin along its back, but not on its belly. Crows apparently learned to flip the toads on their back and then eat them from the underside.
So, in conclusion, crows are fucking awesome. But don't take my word for it. Go forth and discover for yourself and share your learnings, people!
I mean, I knew crows were smart, but that's like almost cephelopod-level smart. Maybe moreso; I don't know if there are recorded instances of cephelopod tool use, although in fairness it's not like squid really need tools.
Apparently, a species of crow is one of the few species that has learned how to feed on the toxic cane toad. The cane toad apparently has a very poisonous skin along its back, but not on its belly. Crows apparently learned to flip the toads on their back and then eat them from the underside.!
So what beastie will Australia import to get rid of the crows when they inevitably escape and start to take up a population niche?
Because 9% think it's too high, and shouldn't be cut! 9% of respondents could not fully
get their arms around the question. There should be another box you can check for, "I
have utterly no idea what you're talking about. Please, God, don't ask for my input."
I mean, I knew crows were smart, but that's like almost cephelopod-level smart. Maybe moreso; I don't know if there are recorded instances of cephelopod tool use, although in fairness it's not like squid really need tools.
So when crows develop phosphorescent cells and learn to change colour, they'll team up with the dolphins and then we'll really be screwed.
Anyway. I've always thought crows were awesome.
I have a related question:
Crows.
Ravens.
Rooks.
Are they all the same thing, and just synonyms? My understanding is that a "rook" is just the british word for crow. But are ravens the same as crows and rooks?
How the hell do you learn the toad thing? It's not like you can figure out the thing's poisonous in the first place without trial and error, and I have no idea how one would break the where's the poison" code (I haven't watched the video yet because my internet's a little sluggish right now.
As a point of comparison, the ALEx lab decided to try that wire experiment with ALEx (or was it tying something to a string and watching him pull it up by said string?). Unfortunately, they were working with ALEx, who not only knew how to ask for things, but was accustomed to demanding them from on high (which was reinforced by the fact that his early training was based on him asking for stuff). Needless to say, all he did was yell at them until they gave him the fucking nut.
If I remember correctly, they had more success with their later parrots, who aren't fucking douchebags.
I mean, I knew crows were smart, but that's like almost cephelopod-level smart. Maybe moreso; I don't know if there are recorded instances of cephelopod tool use, although in fairness it's not like squid really need tools.
So when crows develop phosphorescent cells and learn to change colour, they'll team up with the dolphins and then we'll really be screwed.
Anyway. I've always thought crows were awesome.
I have a related question:
Crows.
Ravens.
Rooks.
Are they all the same thing, and just synonyms? My understanding is that a "rook" is just the british word for crow. But are ravens the same as crows and rooks?
Ravens are larger and only gather into groups when there's food (and in cemeteries, indicating that six feet and a huge granite box aren't quite enough).
Of course, this tells us nothing about how a raven is like a writing desk. Still...
I do want to thank kakos about the awesomeness of the noble crow. I seriously have a newfound respect for the awesomeness of these birds.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
wrote:
When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
In Vancouver, basically all the crows in the city roost in one area. Last year, it was right on my drive home from work, and it was sort of freaky seeing thousands of them sitting on buildings just chilling. Think about their brain power, and then, when you see something like this,
Of course, this tells us nothing about how a raven is like a writing desk. Still...
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The answer I most commonly hear is that Poe wrote on both.
Because 9% think it's too high, and shouldn't be cut! 9% of respondents could not fully
get their arms around the question. There should be another box you can check for, "I
have utterly no idea what you're talking about. Please, God, don't ask for my input."
In Vancouver, basically all the crows in the city roost in one area. Last year, it was right on my drive home from work, and it was sort of freaky seeing thousands of them sitting on buildings just chilling. Think about their brain power, and then, when you see something like this,
In Vancouver, basically all the crows in the city roost in one area. Last year, it was right on my drive home from work, and it was sort of freaky seeing thousands of them sitting on buildings just chilling. Think about their brain power, and then, when you see something like this,
I mean, I knew crows were smart, but that's like almost cephelopod-level smart. Maybe moreso; I don't know if there are recorded instances of cephelopod tool use, although in fairness it's not like squid really need tools.
Caledonian crows are likely smarter than cephelopods. There is a good case to be made for those buggers being the second smartest animal on the planet.
In Vancouver, basically all the crows in the city roost in one area. Last year, it was right on my drive home from work, and it was sort of freaky seeing thousands of them sitting on buildings just chilling. Think about their brain power, and then, when you see something like this,
Of course, this tells us nothing about how a raven is like a writing desk. Still...
.
The answer I most commonly hear is that Poe wrote on both.
indeed. there actually is no answer, but I think that one is the best.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
wrote:
When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
Of course, this tells us nothing about how a raven is like a writing desk. Still...
I do want to thank kakos about the awesomeness of the noble crow. I seriously have a newfound respect for the awesomeness of these birds.
Oh, you'll thank me more when the crows reveal themselves to be the true masters of humanity and enslave us for their own aims, but let the humans that showed them the most respect some measure of freedom.
I mean, I knew crows were smart, but that's like almost cephelopod-level smart. Maybe moreso; I don't know if there are recorded instances of cephelopod tool use, although in fairness it's not like squid really need tools.
Caledonian crows are likely smarter than cephelopods. There is a good case to be made for those buggers being the second smartest animal on the planet.
I mean, I knew crows were smart, but that's like almost cephelopod-level smart. Maybe moreso; I don't know if there are recorded instances of cephelopod tool use, although in fairness it's not like squid really need tools.
Caledonian crows are likely smarter than cephelopods. There is a good case to be made for those buggers being the second smartest animal on the planet.
dolphins!
Dolphins don't show the ability to transform an object never before seen into another object with different properties from the first.
Also, dolphins have to be trained to use their little machines. Crows learn how to use vending machines all on their own.
Apparently, a species of crow is one of the few species that has learned how to feed on the toxic cane toad. The cane toad apparently has a very poisonous skin along its back, but not on its belly. Crows apparently learned to flip the toads on their back and then eat them from the underside.!
So what beastie will Australia import to get rid of the crows when they inevitably escape and start to take up a population niche?
I mean, I knew crows were smart, but that's like almost cephelopod-level smart. Maybe moreso; I don't know if there are recorded instances of cephelopod tool use, although in fairness it's not like squid really need tools.
Caledonian crows are likely smarter than cephelopods. There is a good case to be made for those buggers being the second smartest animal on the planet.
dolphins!
Dolphins don't show the ability to transform an object never before seen into another object with different properties from the first.
Also, dolphins have to be trained to use their little machines. Crows learn how to use vending machines all on their own.
Sounds like they make their own demise to me. I don't what would happen to a crow that got a can of mountain dew out of a vending machine, and managed to drink it, but I don't think it'd be good.
Apparently, a species of crow is one of the few species that has learned how to feed on the toxic cane toad. The cane toad apparently has a very poisonous skin along its back, but not on its belly. Crows apparently learned to flip the toads on their back and then eat them from the underside.!
So what beastie will Australia import to get rid of the crows when they inevitably escape and start to take up a population niche?
Look, I don't think we need an attack plan here. I'm sure the crows will be benevolent overlords.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
wrote:
When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
Apparently, a species of crow is one of the few species that has learned how to feed on the toxic cane toad. The cane toad apparently has a very poisonous skin along its back, but not on its belly. Crows apparently learned to flip the toads on their back and then eat them from the underside.!
So what beastie will Australia import to get rid of the crows when they inevitably escape and start to take up a population niche?
Apparently, a species of crow is one of the few species that has learned how to feed on the toxic cane toad. The cane toad apparently has a very poisonous skin along its back, but not on its belly. Crows apparently learned to flip the toads on their back and then eat them from the underside.!
So what beastie will Australia import to get rid of the crows when they inevitably escape and start to take up a population niche?
Look, I don't think we need an attack plan here. I'm sure the crows will be benevolent overlords.
Whoever tames the bee menace will become master of the crows.
Poor deluded human, thinking you can ever become the master of the crows. Honestly, if things got out of control, I'm sure the crows will scrap the hole experiment and activate the orbital bombardment lasers and just wipe us out and then use their FTL drives to move to another star to begin anew their experiment after tweaking parameters.
In Vancouver, basically all the crows in the city roost in one area. Last year, it was right on my drive home from work, and it was sort of freaky seeing thousands of them sitting on buildings just chilling. Think about their brain power, and then, when you see something like this,
Holy crap. You know where that video was taken? I'm from Delta so it's less crows and more great blue herons, falcons, bald eagles, starlings, etc...
On the topic of birds for a sec, it's funny how many tourists show up and are like OMG A BALD EAGLE! All I can think is "yeah...that's a bald eagle. 20 of them were circling over the thermals above my house yesterday afternoon. big deal"
Also I thought it was rather funny: over winter break I was in my room, and I heard a huge screech and looked outside my window (I back onto farmland) only to see an adult bald eagle chasing a great blue heron, about two feet away from snapping at its tailfeathers. Both of them are wheeling around my backyard, the heron is in hysterics and making a hell of a racket and the eagle has a very hungry look in its eyes. The craziest thing was, they were both being tailed (rather unenthusiastically) by a hawk, as if he hoped they would kill each other and he would get the scraps of both of them.
Years ago, one morning when I was walking from my home to my old school, I would cross a large park area. On this day, as I was walking along, I could see some crows on the ground in the distance. They were kinda in my path, but I just ignored them, expecting them to fly off when I got closer, as birds are want to do.
When I was about 20ft away, they weren't budging. They were also very quiet. I also noted that they had formed a circle around another crow - ok, I thought, thats weird. So I started to veer towards this assembly. I then realized that the bird in the middle wasn't moving. At all. He/she was dead. The other crows were standing around, just watching or holding some sort of vigil. I was within 10ft of them by now, utterly fascinated. None of them stirred at my approach, so I stopped at this distance and just watched. A few crows regarded me, but none of them seemed wary of me. It seemed like they were hanging around the dead crow for some purpose.
So I stood there for a good 5 minutes before I had to make a move to get to school on time. I still remember the whole experience vividly. When I was walking home that evening, the crows body was there, but the vigil had ended. I wasn't freaked out by seeing this, rather as I have become older I realize I was witness to something pretty special in nature. I've had a deep respect for crows ever since - they are definitely brighter then you'd think.
Apparently, a species of crow is one of the few species that has learned how to feed on the toxic cane toad. The cane toad apparently has a very poisonous skin along its back, but not on its belly. Crows apparently learned to flip the toads on their back and then eat them from the underside.!
So what beastie will Australia import to get rid of the crows when they inevitably escape and start to take up a population niche?
What do you mean 'escape', they're pretty common in urban areas.
Walking through my old high school after hours was pretty damn creepy. They'd just sit there and watch you pass by D:
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I mean, I knew crows were smart, but that's like almost cephelopod-level smart. Maybe moreso; I don't know if there are recorded instances of cephelopod tool use, although in fairness it's not like squid really need tools.
Because 9% think it's too high, and shouldn't be cut! 9% of respondents could not fully
get their arms around the question. There should be another box you can check for, "I
have utterly no idea what you're talking about. Please, God, don't ask for my input."
So when crows develop phosphorescent cells and learn to change colour, they'll team up with the dolphins and then we'll really be screwed.
Anyway. I've always thought crows were awesome.
I have a related question:
Crows.
Ravens.
Rooks.
Are they all the same thing, and just synonyms? My understanding is that a "rook" is just the british word for crow. But are ravens the same as crows and rooks?
As a point of comparison, the ALEx lab decided to try that wire experiment with ALEx (or was it tying something to a string and watching him pull it up by said string?). Unfortunately, they were working with ALEx, who not only knew how to ask for things, but was accustomed to demanding them from on high (which was reinforced by the fact that his early training was based on him asking for stuff). Needless to say, all he did was yell at them until they gave him the fucking nut.
If I remember correctly, they had more success with their later parrots, who aren't fucking douchebags.
Ravens are larger and only gather into groups when there's food (and in cemeteries, indicating that six feet and a huge granite box aren't quite enough).
I do want to thank kakos about the awesomeness of the noble crow. I seriously have a newfound respect for the awesomeness of these birds.
Certainly the coolest birds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QuEjaG4Ghs&feature=related
Its a little freaky.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvus_(genus)
Ravens are larger, as has been said, and have a different call.
Because 9% think it's too high, and shouldn't be cut! 9% of respondents could not fully
get their arms around the question. There should be another box you can check for, "I
have utterly no idea what you're talking about. Please, God, don't ask for my input."
This is what run-away/orphan children see, right before they go missing.
If that was a Walmart and not a Costco I would laugh so hard.
They also ressurect people who have been wronged.
One of these facts may be incorrect.
Caledonian crows are likely smarter than cephelopods. There is a good case to be made for those buggers being the second smartest animal on the planet.
Well, everyone knows the second one is true, so obviously the first.
I call bullshit. Nothing can lift people that fat.
indeed. there actually is no answer, but I think that one is the best.
No, the correct answer is "they both raped someone very close to me."
Oh, you'll thank me more when the crows reveal themselves to be the true masters of humanity and enslave us for their own aims, but let the humans that showed them the most respect some measure of freedom.
But you're welcome.
dolphins!
Dolphins don't show the ability to transform an object never before seen into another object with different properties from the first.
Also, dolphins have to be trained to use their little machines. Crows learn how to use vending machines all on their own.
Bees.
Sounds like they make their own demise to me. I don't what would happen to a crow that got a can of mountain dew out of a vending machine, and managed to drink it, but I don't think it'd be good.
Look, I don't think we need an attack plan here. I'm sure the crows will be benevolent overlords.
Whoever tames the bee menace will become master of the crows.
Poor deluded human, thinking you can ever become the master of the crows. Honestly, if things got out of control, I'm sure the crows will scrap the hole experiment and activate the orbital bombardment lasers and just wipe us out and then use their FTL drives to move to another star to begin anew their experiment after tweaking parameters.
Holy crap. You know where that video was taken? I'm from Delta so it's less crows and more great blue herons, falcons, bald eagles, starlings, etc...
On the topic of birds for a sec, it's funny how many tourists show up and are like OMG A BALD EAGLE! All I can think is "yeah...that's a bald eagle. 20 of them were circling over the thermals above my house yesterday afternoon. big deal"
Also I thought it was rather funny: over winter break I was in my room, and I heard a huge screech and looked outside my window (I back onto farmland) only to see an adult bald eagle chasing a great blue heron, about two feet away from snapping at its tailfeathers. Both of them are wheeling around my backyard, the heron is in hysterics and making a hell of a racket and the eagle has a very hungry look in its eyes. The craziest thing was, they were both being tailed (rather unenthusiastically) by a hawk, as if he hoped they would kill each other and he would get the scraps of both of them.
It was surreal.
I have.
Years ago, one morning when I was walking from my home to my old school, I would cross a large park area. On this day, as I was walking along, I could see some crows on the ground in the distance. They were kinda in my path, but I just ignored them, expecting them to fly off when I got closer, as birds are want to do.
When I was about 20ft away, they weren't budging. They were also very quiet. I also noted that they had formed a circle around another crow - ok, I thought, thats weird. So I started to veer towards this assembly. I then realized that the bird in the middle wasn't moving. At all. He/she was dead. The other crows were standing around, just watching or holding some sort of vigil. I was within 10ft of them by now, utterly fascinated. None of them stirred at my approach, so I stopped at this distance and just watched. A few crows regarded me, but none of them seemed wary of me. It seemed like they were hanging around the dead crow for some purpose.
So I stood there for a good 5 minutes before I had to make a move to get to school on time. I still remember the whole experience vividly. When I was walking home that evening, the crows body was there, but the vigil had ended. I wasn't freaked out by seeing this, rather as I have become older I realize I was witness to something pretty special in nature. I've had a deep respect for crows ever since - they are definitely brighter then you'd think.
Walking through my old high school after hours was pretty damn creepy. They'd just sit there and watch you pass by D:
Also, I made the mistake of reading some of the comments on those youtube videos. Goddamn.
I refuse to look, but how do people fuck up the comments on crow videos?
Well... what color are the crows?
Yeah. That's how.
I knew exactly what the comments would be like, and a quick glance confirmed it.
People talking about crows being the "n----r bird" and then other people saying "No, they're smarter than n----rs".