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Jenny McCarthy is still a moron

Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood What happened to you?The Blue RouteRegistered User regular
So Jenny McCarthy and her boytoy are going to be on Larry King tonight, spewing their stupid anti-vaccine horse shit, presumably unchallenged by silly things like facts or science or logic.

I wanted to just post this in Druhim's old thread about the subject but he had to go and get it locked. For those of you unfamiliar with the subject, here's a Wikipedia summary that I didn't fact check.
In May 2007, McCarthy announced that her son was diagnosed with autism in 2005. The disorder of McCarthy's son began with seizures and his improvement occurred after the seizures were treated; these symptoms are more consistent with Landau-Kleffner syndrome, which often is misdiagnosed as autism. McCarthy served as a spokesperson for Talk About Curing Autism (TACA) from June 2007 until October 2008. She participated in fundraisers, online chats, and other activities for the non-profit organization to help families affected by autism spectrum disorders. Her first fundraiser for TACA, Ante Up for Autism, was held on October 20, 2007, in Irvine, California. Before claiming that her son's supposed autism was caused by vaccination, McCarthy wrote that he was a "crystal child" and she an "indigo mom".

McCarthy's book on the subject, Louder than Words: A Mother's Journey in Healing Autism was published September 17, 2007. She has stated both in her book and during her appearance on The Oprah Winfrey Show that her husband was unable to deal with their son's autism, which led to their divorce. She added that her relationship with Jim Carrey has made it easier on her and that finding someone who loves her and her son is great. McCarthy also told Oprah Winfrey that her son was developing normally until he received his measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine (at 15 months of age) and claimed that they were the cause. McCarthy's claims on television that vaccines cause autism, despite being unsupported by the medical evidence, have contributed to parental concerns about a possible link; parental concerns have led to decreased immunization rates and increased incidence of measles, a highly contagious and sometimes deadly disease. McCarthy has stated at many talk shows and rallies that chelation therapy helped her son recover from autism; the underlying rationale for chelation, which is that mercury in vaccines causes autism, has been roundly rejected by scientific studies, with the National Institute of Mental Health concluding that autistic children are unlikely to receive any benefit to balance the risks of cognitive and emotional problems posed by the chelating agents used in the treatment.
Anybody else gonna tune in for this? I figure it'll be good for a few bitter laughs, if nothing else.

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
    lostwords wrote: »
    wasn't there a huge measles outbreak in san diego last year because some dumbass parent decided to not vaccinate their child and he brought it back from germany, mostly because of the autism scare thing? putting other kids in danger is my main concern.

    I think this tells us that nobody should visit Germany.

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    and part of questioning stuff is not blindly accepting everything the medical community throws at you for the simple reason that they're the medical community

    like, I am in favor of vaccines, but that's because I have read books and heard both sides of the story ad nauseam and blahblahblah

    a lot of the time around these forums I basically get the idea that everyone holds these opinions only because everyone else does, and just because they are generally enlightened and educated opinions doesn't entirely excuse that

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    Hunter wrote: »
    One study links autism with vaccinations by completely blurring the line between correlation and causality, as well as having an extremely limited group of test subjects, and the world latches onto it. Thousands of other studies refute the findings of the shitty study and basically call that test a POS. Those are ignored.

    Not to mention the fact that autism generally manifests itself and is at the point where it's noticeable at the same time the vaccines are given, which is coincidence. But alas A SPECIAL DIET OF VEGETABLES AND VITAMINS WILL CURE MY BABY OF TEH AUTISMZ! I can't wait for the repercussions 10 to 20 years from now when these children suffer epidemics of preventable diseases and the parents point fingers at the medical community for not helping their kids get horribly sick.

    Darwin would be so proud

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood What happened to you? The Blue RouteRegistered User regular
    lostwords wrote: »
    wasn't there a huge measles outbreak in san diego last year because some dumbass parent decided to not vaccinate their child and he brought it back from germany, mostly because of the autism scare thing? putting other kids in danger is my main concern.

    I think this tells us that nobody should visit Germany.
    Or San Diego, really.

    I mean, do you really want to be in such close proximity to Shibby? I think not.

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  • DruhimDruhim Usagi's cuddlefish Registered User, ClubPA regular
    and part of questioning stuff is not blindly accepting everything the medical community throws at you for the simple reason that they're the medical community

    like, I am in favor of vaccines, but that's because I have read books and heard both sides of the story ad nauseam and blahblahblah

    a lot of the time around these forums I basically get the idea that everyone holds these opinions only because everyone else does, and just because they are generally enlightened and educated opinions doesn't entirely excuse that
    shank you're being a stupid shit here

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    Druhim wrote: »
    and part of questioning stuff is not blindly accepting everything the medical community throws at you for the simple reason that they're the medical community

    like, I am in favor of vaccines, but that's because I have read books and heard both sides of the story ad nauseam and blahblahblah

    a lot of the time around these forums I basically get the idea that everyone holds these opinions only because everyone else does, and just because they are generally enlightened and educated opinions doesn't entirely excuse that
    shank you're being a stupid shit here

    If they're enlightened and educated then aren't they innately well thought out and not blindly accepted

    or

    ???

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  • CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User
    Words cannot describe how monumentally retarded this anti-vaccination shit is.

    Most pseudoscientific garbage like astrology is mostly harmless, but as far as I'm concerned, the anti-vaccination movement has blood on its hands.

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I believe in vaccines because I don't know anyone with Polio.

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    college has done funny things to you shank

  • DruhimDruhim Usagi's cuddlefish Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Fandyien wrote: »
    Druhim wrote: »
    and part of questioning stuff is not blindly accepting everything the medical community throws at you for the simple reason that they're the medical community

    like, I am in favor of vaccines, but that's because I have read books and heard both sides of the story ad nauseam and blahblahblah

    a lot of the time around these forums I basically get the idea that everyone holds these opinions only because everyone else does, and just because they are generally enlightened and educated opinions doesn't entirely excuse that
    shank you're being a stupid shit here

    If they're enlightened and educated then aren't they innately well thought out and not blindly accepted

    or

    ???
    look, shank is a bigger fan of vaccines than you are you poser! he has all the manga and even has the super rare dolls that were never officially imported to the U.S. so you're just a stupid fag who's riding the fad.

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood What happened to you? The Blue RouteRegistered User regular
    Shank's terrible downward spiral started right around when he posted pictures of himself wearing a keffiyah

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  • DruhimDruhim Usagi's cuddlefish Registered User, ClubPA regular
    ergo keffiyahs make you dumb

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    Is a keffiyah one of those hippy scarfs?

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Fandyien wrote: »
    Druhim wrote: »
    and part of questioning stuff is not blindly accepting everything the medical community throws at you for the simple reason that they're the medical community

    like, I am in favor of vaccines, but that's because I have read books and heard both sides of the story ad nauseam and blahblahblah

    a lot of the time around these forums I basically get the idea that everyone holds these opinions only because everyone else does, and just because they are generally enlightened and educated opinions doesn't entirely excuse that
    shank you're being a stupid shit here

    If they're enlightened and educated then aren't they innately well thought out and not blindly accepted

    or

    ???

    The opinions are enlightened and educated

    people who blindly subscribe to said opinions are not themselves enlightened and educated, is what he's saying

  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood What happened to you? The Blue RouteRegistered User regular
    Fandyien wrote: »
    Is a keffiyah one of those hippy scarfs?
    basically

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    i swear

    there's like, gotta be a name for it

    Arrogant College Freshman Syndrome

    ACFS

    manifests in young college freshmen where they suddenly think they are smarter and more enlightened than everyone around them because their professor is introducing them to new ideas

    it's mindblowing

  • KoshianKoshian __BANNED USERS
    Fandyien wrote: »
    Is a keffiyah one of those hippy scarfs?

    they're worn in support of palestine, maaaaaaaan

  • WeaverWeaver Cap'n NEW CRUNCH CITYRegistered User regular
    If I ran a hospital I would be all "Look if you want to have your baby here you are signing right here to accept these proven safe vaccinations for the child or you can go home and have your hubby play mid-wife with some towels and a pan of hot water.

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    Luckily I've had nothing but stupid professors this year so I haven't acquired that syndrome

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood What happened to you? The Blue RouteRegistered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    i swear

    there's like, gotta be a name for it

    Arrogant College Freshman Syndrome

    ACFS

    manifests in young college freshmen where they suddenly think they are smarter and more enlightened than everyone around them because their professor is introducing them to new ideas

    it's mindblowing
    It's called being a hipster, pony.

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    Fandyien wrote: »
    Druhim wrote: »
    and part of questioning stuff is not blindly accepting everything the medical community throws at you for the simple reason that they're the medical community

    like, I am in favor of vaccines, but that's because I have read books and heard both sides of the story ad nauseam and blahblahblah

    a lot of the time around these forums I basically get the idea that everyone holds these opinions only because everyone else does, and just because they are generally enlightened and educated opinions doesn't entirely excuse that
    shank you're being a stupid shit here

    If they're enlightened and educated then aren't they innately well thought out and not blindly accepted

    or

    ???

    well it's more that I agree with the opinion, I guess

    I'm not trying to be all "it's the fucking illuminati" here but I believe in the concept of healthy distrust

    not of "the government" or anything retarded like that, and I'm not saying you need to exhaustively research every topic you want to have an opinion on

    also I don't even own a keffiyeh so I don't know when that was

    also cloudman is a dumb stoner

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    Druhim wrote: »
    and part of questioning stuff is not blindly accepting everything the medical community throws at you for the simple reason that they're the medical community

    like, I am in favor of vaccines, but that's because I have read books and heard both sides of the story ad nauseam and blahblahblah

    a lot of the time around these forums I basically get the idea that everyone holds these opinions only because everyone else does, and just because they are generally enlightened and educated opinions doesn't entirely excuse that
    shank you're being a stupid shit here

    If they're enlightened and educated then aren't they innately well thought out and not blindly accepted

    or

    ???

    The opinions are enlightened and educated

    people who blindly subscribe to said opinions are not themselves enlightened and educated, is what he's saying

    see thank you

    this is what I meant

    you're a good dude

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    Fandyien wrote: »
    Druhim wrote: »
    and part of questioning stuff is not blindly accepting everything the medical community throws at you for the simple reason that they're the medical community

    like, I am in favor of vaccines, but that's because I have read books and heard both sides of the story ad nauseam and blahblahblah

    a lot of the time around these forums I basically get the idea that everyone holds these opinions only because everyone else does, and just because they are generally enlightened and educated opinions doesn't entirely excuse that
    shank you're being a stupid shit here

    If they're enlightened and educated then aren't they innately well thought out and not blindly accepted

    or

    ???

    well it's more that I agree with the opinion, I guess

    I'm not trying to be all "it's the fucking illuminati" here but I believe in the concept of healthy distrust

    not of "the government" or anything retarded like that, and I'm not saying you need to exhaustively research every topic you want to have an opinion on

    also I don't even own a keffiyeh so I don't know when that was

    also cloudman is a dumb stoner

    I'd like you to know that I agree with this sentiment I was just prodding you with semantics to get you clarify it in better terms

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  • BedlamBedlam Registered User regular
    guys I don't want to get all crazy on you here

    but questioning stuff is good

    stupid beliefs, however, are not
    "Feel free to question things as long as you dont disagree with me"

  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Greatest Wizard In All of Ooo. Cantrip!Registered User regular
    so what if vaccines were made of spiders

  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    So apparently I'm not going to English class because I'm lazy.

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  • WeaverWeaver Cap'n NEW CRUNCH CITYRegistered User regular
    Like nano-spiders that live in your blood hunting down disease? I could be cool with that I guess.

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood What happened to you? The Blue RouteRegistered User regular
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    so what if vaccines were made of spiders
    oh fuck

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    Nah like they just squish up a bunch of wolf spiders and shoot it into your brain

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  • KoshianKoshian __BANNED USERS
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    so what if vaccines were made of spiders

    then you would be inoculated against other, larger spiders

    genius!

  • WeaverWeaver Cap'n NEW CRUNCH CITYRegistered User regular
    Fandyien wrote: »
    So apparently I'm not going to English class because I'm lazy.

    Apparently? You're so lazy you can decide for certain that your laziness is the reason for not going, like maybe you also have a cake in the oven or something but man decisions

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  • WeaverWeaver Cap'n NEW CRUNCH CITYRegistered User regular
    Fandyien wrote: »
    Nah like they just squish up a bunch of wolf spiders and shoot it into your brain

    So that's how I contracted the brain spiders.

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    Fandyien wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    Druhim wrote: »
    and part of questioning stuff is not blindly accepting everything the medical community throws at you for the simple reason that they're the medical community

    like, I am in favor of vaccines, but that's because I have read books and heard both sides of the story ad nauseam and blahblahblah

    a lot of the time around these forums I basically get the idea that everyone holds these opinions only because everyone else does, and just because they are generally enlightened and educated opinions doesn't entirely excuse that
    shank you're being a stupid shit here

    If they're enlightened and educated then aren't they innately well thought out and not blindly accepted

    or

    ???

    well it's more that I agree with the opinion, I guess

    I'm not trying to be all "it's the fucking illuminati" here but I believe in the concept of healthy distrust

    not of "the government" or anything retarded like that, and I'm not saying you need to exhaustively research every topic you want to have an opinion on

    also I don't even own a keffiyeh so I don't know when that was

    also cloudman is a dumb stoner

    I'd like you to know that I agree with this sentiment I was just prodding you with semantics to get you clarify it in better terms

    okay well if you're not just trying to get me riled up then I will get a little more specific

    I am saying that the original people who form these opinions, on these boards and elsewhere, are enlightened and educated. They have done research, they have a well-thought out and moderated opinion, they can discourse at length on the topic and it's basically clear that they're super-bright and know what they're talking about.

    Then people come along and agree with them and all, but when actually pressed they basically just parrot back bits and pieces of the original opinion without actually making a clear and effective argument, so it becomes obvious that instead of knowing the facts themselves and without admitting "yeah, ok, I believe this but am not the best person to argue the point" they just get more and more antagonistic and inflammatory.

    This is something that bugs me.

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    Cloudman wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    i swear

    there's like, gotta be a name for it

    Arrogant College Freshman Syndrome

    ACFS

    manifests in young college freshmen where they suddenly think they are smarter and more enlightened than everyone around them because their professor is introducing them to new ideas

    it's mindblowing
    It's called being a hipster, pony.

    no but it's more than that

    i know lots of hipsters

    my girlfriend's in university, some of her friends are hipsters

    and yeah, hipsters are annoying

    but there's this sort of madness that afflicts some people when they start in college

    they turn into mouthpieces for their professors and espouse with absolute conviction viewpoints and ideas they might've been taught last week

    after that first year, it seems to taper off and temper itself

    but i don't know maybe it's the intoxication of new knowledge and an opening of one's worldview or whatever

    but fuck if it ain't annoying and it turns otherwise okay people into arrogant shits

  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    Weaver wrote: »
    Fandyien wrote: »
    So apparently I'm not going to English class because I'm lazy.

    Apparently? You're so lazy you can decide for certain that your laziness is the reason for not going, like maybe you also have a cake in the oven or something but man decisions

    I guess man

    it's tough to make decisions or finish thi

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    I am going to kill you all in your sleep tonight

  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    Bedlam wrote: »
    guys I don't want to get all crazy on you here

    but questioning stuff is good

    stupid beliefs, however, are not
    "Feel free to question things as long as you dont disagree with me"

    almost

    there are some opinions that I don't share that I can see the merits of

    like a lot of fiscal issues or political ideologies, I don't endorse them but yeah, I can see where you're coming from

    I'm just trying to highlight the difference between "I wonder if this way of doing things is the best it could possibly be" and "maybe we live on the inside of the planet Earth and no one has ever told us because they don't want us to find out"

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  • STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT EVERYBODY'S GOT A PRICE! Registered User regular
    Cloudman wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    i swear

    there's like, gotta be a name for it

    Arrogant College Freshman Syndrome

    ACFS

    manifests in young college freshmen where they suddenly think they are smarter and more enlightened than everyone around them because their professor is introducing them to new ideas

    it's mindblowing
    It's called being a hipster, pony.

    Being a hipster should be a misdemeanor offense.

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  • UsagiUsagi Got catz in my zone Ca-catz in my zoneRegistered User regular
    Jenny McCarthy Body Count

    I really want King to bring some sort of hard scientific questioning to her and Carrey, but I am not hopeful

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  • KoshianKoshian __BANNED USERS
    what if I don't sleep tonight, grey ghost

    your flawed plan is crumbling into tiny, flawed pieces

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