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We're pimps and killers, but in a philanthropic way. [Dollhouse, Whedon spoilers]

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I know. Though I guess it would answer the complain about the premise not having legs to go on for more than a couple seasons under it's current state.

    Edit- Oh, also, spoilers for the May 1st episode
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  • JohnDoeJohnDoe Registered User
    edited April 2009
    Great episode this week.

  • QuidQuid The Fifth Horseman Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Spectacular show today.

  • LanzLanz Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I was slightly amused by the
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    SEGATA SANSHIRO! LIVE AGAIN!
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  • shrykeshryke Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Awesome episode tonight.
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  • proXimityproXimity Registered User
    edited April 2009
    Great episode... even if i thought the
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  • QuidQuid The Fifth Horseman Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    And oh shit, next week's episode? Why do we have to wait two weeks?

  • WashWash Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Tonight's episode was great but
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  • theSquidtheSquid Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Tonight's episode was great but
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    Tea is always on topic.
  • LanzLanz Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    theSquid wrote: »
    Tonight's episode was great but
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    Didn't they imply
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  • shrykeshryke Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Lanz wrote: »
    theSquid wrote: »
    Tonight's episode was great but
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    Didn't they imply
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    Yup. DeWitt is a smart lady. You don't kill spies when you find them (cause then you won't know who the next one will be), you just render them useless.

  • LanzLanz Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    shryke wrote: »
    Lanz wrote: »
    theSquid wrote: »
    Tonight's episode was great but
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    Didn't they imply
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    Yup. DeWitt is a smart lady. You don't kill spies when you find them (cause then you won't know who the next one will be), you just render them useless.

    or in this case
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    SEGATA SANSHIRO! LIVE AGAIN!
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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Lanz wrote: »
    theSquid wrote: »
    Tonight's episode was great but
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    Didn't they imply
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    I don't know if they implied it so much as they outright said it.






    Also, as far as who the mole was

    I fucking CALLED it.

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    Even if I was off about minor details.

  • shrykeshryke Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Re: The Mole:
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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    shryke wrote: »
    Re: The Mole:
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    Gah.

    I know.

    I know.


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  • Mei HikariMei Hikari Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Holy shit, this was such an awesome episode.
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  • OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Fuck, I loved this episode so much. I can't decide which is better, this one or Man on the Street. Regardless, I fully believe that these two episodes are up there with the best of Whedon's other shows.

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    OremLK wrote: »
    Fuck, I loved this episode so much. I can't decide which is better, this one or Man on the Street. Regardless, I fully believe that these two episodes are up there with the best of Whedon's other shows.

    Agreed agreed and agreed.

    I loved this so much.

    It was just perfect.

    There's a rule, by now, that Whedon is his best when he's focusing on a number of characters instead of just one, right?

    This episode was just perfect, and the hint to Topher that Ivy likes him? And DeWitt becoming the icy cold witch?


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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Also, I love when shows "get to the point" as it were.

    As for Ballad.
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  • OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    One tiny thing I loved was that they had Victor-as-Roger comment on Adelle misusing "ironic"... when it actually was kinda ironic. It was just such perfect dialogue in every way.

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    OremLK wrote: »
    One tiny thing I loved was that they had Victor-as-Roger comment on Adelle misusing "ironic"... when it actually was kinda ironic. It was just such perfect dialogue in every way.

    Oh, yes. Roger's character was fantastic. Phone-slipping, Sexy-woman-business-shoe wearing, dominate-her-in-sparring Roger.

    Not just him of course.



    "We're pimps and killers. But in a philanthropic way. Can I go now?"












    This episode just makes me really curious to see where Langton's character is going to end up. He seemed almost hurt or betrayed ot have to leave Echo behind. And he was never really interrogated.

    I can't quite tell what's in store for him. His ultimate motives, etc.


    For instance, Topher is easy. Whatever actually happens to him, I'll always know where he stands. He's "the science guy." He's the gloating, nerdy genius.

    Langton? I'm just excited to watch.

  • OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Yes, Boyd was awesome for the little that he was in this episode.
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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    His smiling while Topher was freaking out just made me very curious. And smile a lot at the juxtaposition.

    Like, what's supposed to be going on in his head at that point?

  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Disappointing to see
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  • EmonkEmonk __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2009
    Is it okay to like this show now?

    Because I think it's getting really fucking good.

  • David_TDavid_T Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Loved that Topher...
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    And all of Roger.

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    David_T wrote: »
    Loved that Topher...
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    I did too, but it makes me worry if they start to become friends, and like each other.

    Because when people are happy and good things are happening between them in the WHEDONVERSE...

    Then bad shit is about to happen to them.

  • mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I thought somebody last week said the preview (which I never see, because I watch on the interwebs, because FOX is not in HD where I live) looked like this weeks ep was going to be another "personality of the week" episode.

    Or not.

    So awesome it wasn't even funny.

    Also, regarding Ballard (among other things):
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  • OatsOats Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I'm getting to like this show.

    I will not be pleased when FOX inevitably cancels it, as they do to all good things.

  • SpawnbrokerSpawnbroker Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    This episode was FANTASTIC, the Dewitt / Roger thing really threw me for a loop, I wasn't expecting it at all. Very rarely does a show do that to me anymore. I also agree that Ballard's character is getting even more dark and fucked up, and I think that's a good thing. It makes him more interesting. The wall with all the information about the Dollhouse and his obsessive rambling portrayed that really well.

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  • OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I like that he actually realized how crazy he sounded, too. How often is "crazy obsessed guy" self-aware enough to reel it back in on a TV series?

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  • Mullitt The WiseMullitt The Wise Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I don't think Dominic is the mole they're looking for.

    This episode was the best yet. So much good dialogue and suspense. I'm curious to see how Alpha will be a big villain, because it seems like there is so much going on inside the Dollhouse that adding in an outside force would be weird. Unless he messes with Ballard.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    David_T wrote: »
    Loved that Topher...
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    I did too, but it makes me worry if they start to become friends, and like each other.

    Because when people are happy and good things are happening between them in the WHEDONVERSE...

    Then bad shit is about to happen to them.
    I think they're OK, unless they've got some hot geek-on-cop action going in the background somewhere.

    Ballard/Millie and Dewitt/Victor will hopefully be enough relationship destruction for Whedon without him branching out into "guy friend" territory.

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  • Kipling217Kipling217 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Dude, does Ballard ever get the short end of the stick. Not only is his love a doll, but now
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    Whedon love stories... They are a bitch.

    One thing that stuck in my mind:
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    And lastly:

    Why can't a doll be a spy/mole? We know there are sleeper dolls that can be activated with a phrase. We know that the dollhouse mind-wipe tech is not as effective as they think it is(the series kinda depends on it). Why not create a double-agent doll? of course this requires a third party.

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  • OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Kipling217 wrote: »
    Dude, does Ballard ever get the short end of the stick. Not only is his love a doll, but now
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    Whedon love stories... They are a bitch.

    It's such a fantastic moral quandary, too.
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  • mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    After this episode I'm convinced this is going to play out like a meta-Whedon-show.

    Where I finally let go and fall deeply in love with the show, then it's killed horribly in front of me.

    Well played, Joss.


    EDIT: It's actually hard to remember the Dollhouse of the first few episodes, the one that was "kinda okay" and "I guess I'll keep watching."

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    OremLK wrote: »
    I like that he actually realized how crazy he sounded, too. How often is "crazy obsessed guy" self-aware enough to reel it back in on a TV series?

    Yeah, that's basically what I was trying to get at.

    This show is so damn good because it doesn't drag arbitrary shit out.

    I hate when characters are deliberately made stupid just so the show can stretch certain story arcs/elements out for pointless periods of time, to where it's just retarded.

    I'M LOOKING AT YOU, HEROES!

  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    mcdermott wrote: »
    EDIT: It's actually hard to remember the Dollhouse of the first few episodes, the one that was "kinda okay" and "I guess I'll keep watching."

    I know what you mean, but really... That's partly because the show started two months ago.




    Where the hell does the time go!?

  • mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    OremLK wrote: »
    I like that he actually realized how crazy he sounded, too. How often is "crazy obsessed guy" self-aware enough to reel it back in on a TV series?

    Yeah, that's basically what I was trying to get at.

    This show is so damn good because it doesn't drag arbitrary shit out.

    I hate when characters are deliberately made stupid just so the show can stretch certain story arcs/elements out for pointless periods of time, to where it's just retarded.

    I'M LOOKING AT YOU, HEROES!

    So true. Which is probably part of why it was such a surprise, because it's so routine for shows to do just that.
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  • KiwiKiwi Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    This episode was FANTASTIC, the Dewitt / Roger thing really threw me for a loop, I wasn't expecting it at all. Very rarely does a show do that to me anymore. I also agree that Ballard's character is getting even more dark and fucked up, and I think that's a good thing. It makes him more interesting. The wall with all the information about the Dollhouse and his obsessive rambling portrayed that really well.

    Yeah, the Dewitt stuff:
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