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Backloggery XBox Live 3DS: 1805-2274-4550 (Jonathan)
I'd pay to watch other people do that competitively. I wouldn't pay much, though.
A: People making fools of themselves
B: Activity you can watch
C: Competition
D : Crazy announcer
They have it in Japan don't they? I forget what it was or is called.
Backloggery XBox Live 3DS: 1805-2274-4550 (Jonathan)
But the more important component of 'sport' is that it's a GAME with a WINNER. That's a far more central component of the definition than the physical element.
/edit: or to put it more clearly, body building competitions are judged. Violin competitions are judged. Games are not usually judged, they are refereed. Someone might need to do more situps to win a beauty pageant than they might need to do to win a CS tournament, but only the tournament is a game.
Sports are made up of games, so video games (and card games) are a better fit than skill/beauty competitions.
This doesn't really have to do with anything but I thought I'd mention that it takes an amazing amount of strength to use a bow.
I didn't say a sport is all physical. It just has to be a central part of the competition (as someone else said, the fact that it is a competitive event with a clear winner is also, obviously, a key element). As mentioned eariler, there's a reason racing is separated into "motorsport," but even then, I would say the driver is the primary focus. Clearly, he couldn't do it without an enormous team behind him that probably deserves as much credit as the driver himself, but then, boxers have a team of highly trained professional supporters as well. There are always background players, and, at the end of the day, people remember Schumacher, not the mechanics, engineers, yadda yadda yadda.
I'm aware that, at a certain point, there is a blurring of the lines. This happens with everything. Even in real life, if you look closely enough, there's a blurring between animal and plant, matter and absence of matter. That doesn't mean that the distinction is inconsequential. Hand-eye coordination is key in games, but I don't think that counts as "physicality" enough for it to be considered a sport event. All sports feature strong hand-eye coordination, and then another layer of physical action over that.
I think BloodySloth makes an excellent point about hand-eye coordination with added physical conditioning or prowess beyond that.
There's no shame in this, given how crowded the sports market in America is and how well-established, mainstream sports fail to really break into the mainstream. Even with golf, few people can name anyone currently playing aside from Tiger.
i mean, c'mon, let's be honest with ourselves; all we really care about is money and women.
so by this logic:
pro-basketball / baseball / american football = awesome
pro-billiards / skiing / surfing = pretty cool
pro-bowler / darts / gamer = meh
I disagree with your premise. If all you care about is money and women, fine by me, but don't paint the world with that brush.
Yes, no professional player of anything actually enjoys the game, it's all for the chicks
I love this post for so many reasons.
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KotOR2 does kind of suck.
Nah, fuck PC gaming.
Also I love his post 'cause he's basically like "Yeah woo! Sports is about making mad money and fuckin' chicks wooooo!"
Which I find entertaining.
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MLG though? Run by assholes, they just buy their way into everything, and they ruin every gaming forum because they think their setup for a game is the One and True way to play the game.
They'll probably go down in a couple of years after getting busted cooking their books.
Also they let people quit high school and get paid by them. That's also going to get Congress on their ass.
I mean come on, PAX holds a semi-casual Halo 3 tournament and two MLG teams show up in full gear and proceed to wipe every team out and the final is between them. They already had their own fucking event in the city, and the prize at most was worth 200$. What was the point of that?
No, I don't really wanna know why games as sports wouldn't happen, because it's a stupid fucking idea. Games aren't sports. End of story. They'll never be accepted as such, no matter how many broad definitions anyone pulls out of their ass or from the dictionary.
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High school's over, man. You don't have to try and justify your hobby anymore beyond that "you like it."
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Billiards and surfing are taken far more seriously than gaming ever will be.
Yeah but.. that actually took .. being athletic.
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RTS games are closer to chess.
All MLG Halo is let's remove everything that's interesting, start everyone with the most boring gun, and our entire "Top 10" list for each week is just a bunch of multi kill streaks. Yay?
Wheel of Fortune: Now a sport.
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Haha that's right fuck those nerds am I right? Nothing that takes any mental ability ever becomes popular so better pump dat iron and shotgun some brews? hey u up for some halo lateR? After that we bros can go play basketball shirtless w00t
I know I chuckled.
Bravo, it's like you've captured a photograph of my life, dipshit.
Also, learn to read. What I'm saying is that a sport, an actual sport, requires both physicality and mentality, not just one or the other. You think baseball is all about just being able to hit a ball hard or throw far? Do you think football is just about running into each other?
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It's not? D:
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That said, Fyre was dead on with his assessment of MLG. They are cock sucking douchebags who can't get over the fact that their rules are not the one and true rules. "THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!" does not apply to video games. One of my friends would be GoW2 online a lot and he'd pop into servers and tell people that they should switch their server rules to MLG rules because that's the official way to play. It wasn't until I told him to fuck off that he didn't knock that shit off.
Basically what I'm saying is, Fuck MLG.
Edit: Also, Dagrabbit is right. Professional gaming will, and in some cases has (see: Madden, Halo), reach the levels of things like Poker and Bowling, and that's a-okay.
Body Building is a competition. Ice Skating is a competition. CS is scored by a set of rules that don't require judging, which makes it a sport.
Well there's more to "sport" than athleticism, in my opinion.
Gaming though, still not a sport. And it never will be, under any definition.
And is irrelevant anyway.
To be a sport, you must follow both criteria, not one or the other. That being, a hard line scoring system without judges determining score, and athletic ability. Gaming, in most cases, has one of those, but it fails to have the other. Thus, not a sport.
There's also a third, personal, rule that I use and that it's you must be actively playing against someone. In other words, Golf? Not a sport. You're playing against the course, not the other golfers. Tennis? Sport! Bowling? Not a Sport! Playing against the lane, not the other players.
The point is there only to illustrate that spoon hanging is a hell of a lot *more* sportlike than anything with a judge making subjective decisions.
Including, for instance, boxing.