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Long held misconceptions

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  • Premier kakosPremier kakos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    So, when something is dismissed as a "moot point", it's dismissed not because it's already been decided, but because it is too open to debate, meaning there isn't enough merit to decide one way or the other.

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  • MedopineMedopine __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2009
    So, when something is dismissed as a "moot point", it's dismissed not because it's already been decided, but because it is too open to debate, meaning there isn't enough merit to decide one way or the other.

    where are you getting this definition

  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Medopine wrote: »
    So, when something is dismissed as a "moot point", it's dismissed not because it's already been decided, but because it is too open to debate, meaning there isn't enough merit to decide one way or the other.

    where are you getting this definition

    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/moot_point

    Apparently they are using the original definition of the term, but due to regional differences and the shift of languages over time, they are also using the outdated definition of the term.

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  • TaximesTaximes Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    moot [moot]
    -adjective
    1. open to discussion or debate; debatable; doubtful: a moot point.
    2. of little or no practical value or meaning; purely academic.
    3. Chiefly Law. not actual; theoretical; hypothetical.
    ?

  • MedopineMedopine __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2009
    yeah I guess #2 is how I use it

    thus: "Moot court"

  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    This is why I prefer dictionaries that actually reference usage:

    moot, adj:

    1. Originally in Law, of a case, issue, etc.: proposed for discussion at a moot (MOOT n.1 4). Later also gen.: open to argument, debatable; uncertain, doubtful; unable to be firmly resolved. Freq. in moot case, moot point.

    2. N. Amer. (orig. Law). Of a case, issue, etc.: having no practical significance or relevance; abstract, academic.
    Now the usual sense in North America.

    Emphasis mine.

    The second definition has also been around since 1807, so, it's not a new phenomenon either.

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  • Casual EddyCasual Eddy Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    that's interesting that a word has two meanings which are almost opposites

  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    that's interesting that a word has two meanings which are almost opposites

    Yeah, there are a few other words this is true for. The only one I remember off the top of my head is cleave.

    To cling,adhere, stick fast to, as in "I cleaved to her bosom"

    To split, or sever as in "I cleaved his shield in twain with my mighty axe"

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  • joshua1joshua1 Registered User
    edited April 2009
    I seem to remember cleaved also being used as nautical parlance, but i also might be talking out of my ass.

  • pinenut_canarypinenut_canary Registered User
    edited April 2009
    Couscous wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Back in second grade or so, I thought the Ewoks were the best part of Return of the Jedi. Fuzzy pals getting into mischief involving speeder bikes? Genius!

    I think that counts as a misconception, right?

    Yes. I pity the children who will grow up liking Jar Jar Binks, but I'm not sure they exist.

    My cousin who's in high school right now likes Episodes 1-3 better than the old ones. Such a sad sad day when he told me that.

  • KageraKagera Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Couscous wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Back in second grade or so, I thought the Ewoks were the best part of Return of the Jedi. Fuzzy pals getting into mischief involving speeder bikes? Genius!

    I think that counts as a misconception, right?

    Yes. I pity the children who will grow up liking Jar Jar Binks, but I'm not sure they exist.

    My cousin who's in high school right now likes Episodes 1-3 better than the old ones. Such a sad sad day when he told me that.

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  • OrganichuOrganichu Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Couscous wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Back in second grade or so, I thought the Ewoks were the best part of Return of the Jedi. Fuzzy pals getting into mischief involving speeder bikes? Genius!

    I think that counts as a misconception, right?

    Yes. I pity the children who will grow up liking Jar Jar Binks, but I'm not sure they exist.

    My cousin who's in high school right now likes Episodes 1-3 better than the old ones.

    I also prefer Episodes 1-3.

  • KageraKagera Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Organichu wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Back in second grade or so, I thought the Ewoks were the best part of Return of the Jedi. Fuzzy pals getting into mischief involving speeder bikes? Genius!

    I think that counts as a misconception, right?

    Yes. I pity the children who will grow up liking Jar Jar Binks, but I'm not sure they exist.

    My cousin who's in high school right now likes Episodes 1-3 better than the old ones.

    I also prefer Episodes 1-3.

    I now support the extremist Muslim decree that Israel must be driven into the sea.

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  • OrganichuOrganichu Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Spoiler:

  • Dulcius_ex_asperisDulcius_ex_asperis Registered User
    edited April 2009
    deowolf wrote: »
    Needs Quimby-trial "Chowdah!" vs "Shouderr!" clip.

    edit: There's also that whole thing about how people can tell you're out of town if you mispronounce a location, like "Worcester" in New England. Go on, try and pronounce it.

    There's a good chance you said it wrong.

    OK. Is it "Wor-ster"? That's how I read it.

    I think it could also be "war-chester" but i think that's how most people pronounce it, so it also makes me think that's wrong.

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  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive Damn these electric sex pants! Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Wuss-tuh.

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  • joshua1joshua1 Registered User
    edited April 2009
    "woiss-ta-shear"

  • joshua1joshua1 Registered User
    edited April 2009
    "wuss-ta-shear"

  • Dulcius_ex_asperisDulcius_ex_asperis Registered User
    edited April 2009
    joshua1 wrote: »
    "wuss-ta-shear"

    Worchestershire?

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  • EdcrabEdcrab Registered User
    edited April 2009
    Trying to pronounce half the place names in this country is an exercise in futility.

    I mean, we've got the goddamn Tems. I mean Thames. There's another misconception I had as a kid: I pronounced it thaims, to rhyme with games. Wasn't exactly long held but when I figured it out I remember thinking that it was probably down to the same sort of logic that led to that X being put on the Prix in Grand Prix. Which I did of course used to read as Pricks.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Edcrab wrote: »
    Trying to pronounce half the place names in this country is an exercise in futility.

    I mean, we've got the goddamn Tems. I mean Thames. There's another misconception I had as a kid: I pronounced it thaims, to rhyme with games. Wasn't exactly long held but when I figured it out I remember thinking that it was probably down to the same sort of logic that led to that X being put on the Prix in Grand Prix. Which I did of course used to read as Pricks.

    War-wick
    Glouw-chester
    South-wark
    Green-witch

  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User
    edited April 2009
    No, not Green-witch, gren-idge

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  • DaxonDaxon Registered User
    edited April 2009
    No, not Green-witch, gren-idge

    Those were all generally wrong.

    Warwick = Warrick
    Gloucester = Glauster
    Southwark I dunno
    I tend to think of Greenwich as Grennich though :P

  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Daxon wrote: »
    No, not Green-witch, gren-idge

    Those were all generally wrong.

    Warwick = Warrick
    Gloucester = Glauster
    Southwark I dunno
    I tend to think of Greenwich as Grennich though :P

    Southwark is "Sutherk".

    I guess the Brits just have something against pronouncing the letter W.

  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    Nobody says "warrick," you freak.

    It's War-wick. Warwick, Rhode Island.

    Also, seriously, Worcester is hard for some of you people? Wooster. That's it. "Woo" like "Wood" and "ster" like "Stir." Duh.

    And to add my own misconception, I realized that I been saying my girlfriend's boss' last name wrong the entire time I've known her. I thought the guy's last name was "Stafford" and when she typed it out on AIM the other day, for the first time, she typed something like "Fahfarad."

    No idea how I got "Stafford" from that.

  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Six pack on a dick Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Edinbourough.

    Edinburr. Edinburra is also acceptable.

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  • JaminoJamino Registered User
    edited April 2009
    Edinbourough.

    Edinburr. Edinburra is also acceptable.

    It's actually spelled Edinburgh, but your pronunciation is correct ;)

    Anyway Warwick is pronounced Warrick in England.

    Me and my girlfriend went and met some of her school friends in London while they were visiting, and she has one of those friends that thought every English town ended in shire o_O

    "Oh yeah, I was thinking of going up to visit burr-ming-ham-shire"

    Leicester tends to confuse Americans as well.

    In the interest of education it's pronounced Lester not Lie-cester

  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Nobody says "warrick," you freak.

    It's War-wick. Warwick, Rhode Island.

    I was talking about the original Warwick, in England.

  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Jamino wrote: »
    Leicester tends to confuse Americans as well.

    In the interest of education it's pronounced Lester not Lie-cester

    I swear sometimes you people are worse than the French.

  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Six pack on a dick Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Jamino wrote: »
    Edinbourough.

    Edinburr. Edinburra is also acceptable.

    It's actually spelled Edinburgh, but your pronunciation is correct ;)

    Anyway Warwick is pronounced Warrick in England.

    Me and my girlfriend went and met some of her school friends in London while they were visiting, and she has one of those friends that thought every English town ended in shire o_O

    "Oh yeah, I was thinking of going up to visit burr-ming-ham-shire"

    Leicester tends to confuse Americans as well.

    In the interest of education it's pronounced Lester not Lie-cester
    Whoops, "Edinbourough" was supposed to be the incorrect pronunciation, I somehow managed to not type Edinburgh first.

    There's actually a Leicester in North Carolina near where I use to live. Nobody knew how to pronounce it, even the people who lived there. And pronouncing it right only confused people.

    "I have to go to Lester today."

    "Who?"

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  • freelancerbobfreelancerbob UKRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Oh oh oh!

    When I was a kid I thought the word Horizon was pronounced Horror-zone for a while. That may explain why I like Dnd so much, amongst other things.

    What is this thing that is happening here.
  • DaxonDaxon Registered User
    edited April 2009
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Nobody says "warrick," you freak.

    It's War-wick. Warwick, Rhode Island.

    I was talking about the original Warwick, in England.

    Yea, you freak, who gives about some silly America-Copy town.

  • XaevXaev Registered User
    edited April 2009
    Daxon wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Nobody says "warrick," you freak.

    It's War-wick. Warwick, Rhode Island.

    I was talking about the original Warwick, in England.

    Yea, you freak, who gives about some silly America-Copy town.

    New York is so much better than plain old York.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Six pack on a dick Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Xaev wrote: »
    Daxon wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Nobody says "warrick," you freak.

    It's War-wick. Warwick, Rhode Island.

    I was talking about the original Warwick, in England.

    Yea, you freak, who gives about some silly America-Copy town.

    New York is so much better than plain old York.
    Pfft, they only changed it because "New Amsterdam, New Amsterdam" took too long to say.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Xaev wrote: »
    Daxon wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Nobody says "warrick," you freak.

    It's War-wick. Warwick, Rhode Island.

    I was talking about the original Warwick, in England.

    Yea, you freak, who gives about some silly America-Copy town.

    New York is so much better than plain old York.
    Pfft, they only changed it because "New Amsterdam, New Amsterdam" took too long to say.

    Why they changed it, I can't say,
    People just liked it better that wayyyyyyy...:whistle:

  • GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Leitner wrote: »
    Brummie?
    Birmingham. Frequently rated the least intelligent accent for people, like below silence.
    Yeah, it's pretty bad. At first I thought folks like Ozzy Osbourne were unintelligible because of the drugs/drinking, and then I met some people from there and I was like, "shit... all y'all speak like that?" And then they made fun of me for my "all y'all". Look in the mirror.

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  • RingoRingo Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Warrn wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Cervetus wrote: »
    re the earlier debate on the two big survial shows, I would like to just mention that Les Stroud ALSO sucks

    ALso, I hate people that say "Mute point" and "for all intensive purposes"

    But what if they actually mean that the point has changed, or that something is applicable for every purpose of small-scale agriculture?

    I get the play on words you are making with intensive, but not with mute.

    What definition of mute are you working with?

    I realize this is a few pages back, but did Johnny maybe mean moot point?
    He hates people who say "Mute" instead of "Moot" and "All Intensive" instead of "All intents and"

    It is supposed to be "All intents and purposes" just so you know :P

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    I'm just going to go ahead and lock this thread before I feel any worse about humanity.
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  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I was unable to pronounce Worcestershire sauce for the longest time, until I lived in Boston for a year and encountered Worcester the city.

    "WUH-ster-sher"

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt Carrion-Eater Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I learned how to pronounce it from an episode of Scooby-Doo.

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  • JoolanderJoolander Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    i used to think this thread was about misconceptions, and not accents

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