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  • Re: The Last [Movies] Thread, Part 2

    Astaereth wrote: »
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    @Astaereth‌

    See, here's the problem. I look at your lists of good movies and terrible movies, and my own such lists wouldn't look anything like those. So the answer to What Are You Missing? is just "Opinions LOL."

    And I think this sort of personal preference drives the kind of articles we see bemoaning the Great Death of Whatever. Any given year is going to be great for some people and terrible for others. And so any given year, you're going to find such articles.

    Which is why the article he linked went for actual metrics.

    At some point, listwarz is the only way to actually talk about this argument beyond "lolopinons". And even if one doesn't believe it's the death of cinema or something, I think the evidence that article presents is rather compelling for saying there is a real trend going on.

    Except I don't find the metrics all that meaningful. In the end, either Hollywood is putting a lot of movies that you like, or it isn't. Whether GotG exists because of some auteur realizing his grand vision, or because some cynical executive market tested the whole thing from start to finish, it exists and I loved it.

    When there are so many good movies out there that it is functionally impossible top watch them all anyway, griping about the death of creativity in Hollywood feels like arguing between a countable infinity and an uncountable infinity.

    "Yes, sure, there's an infinite supply of rational numbers, but think how lovely it would be if we had the irrational numbers, too!"

    You need more good movies out there than any one person can watch, because most people have preferences. Some people prefer to watch mostly romantic comedies, and if there aren't any good rom coms out, that person is not going to be glad to hear that there are plenty of good war movies available. The more good movies there are in general, the bigger the spread--the more likely that no matter what your preference or opinion set, you're going to have as many or more good movies than you can reasonably watch.

    But... there are. Even if all you like are rom-coms, you probably won't run out of stuff to watch. That article was trying to hang its hat on the idea that in the next six years, there are 70 movies coming out that are part of some franchise or other. 70! That's almost 12 per year! Which amounts to almost two percent of the movies released annually! DOOOOOOOOM.

    Sorry man, the scene is just not that dire, even if you are one of the select few that hate current Hollywood trends. I submit as evidence the fact that even our loveable resident anti-MCU curmudgeon seems to find ample films to praise each year.
    Harry Dresden
  • Re: The Last [Movies] Thread, Part 2

    The various MCU films have a lot of similarities and a fair number of differences. Whether you want to call them "too alike" is a matter of taste. I think they strike a good balance between being different enough to not get tedious, but similar enough that they're clearly from the same universe.

    (Excepting GOTG, which is pretty distinct. )
    Harry DresdenGnome-Interruptus
  • Re: The Last [Movies] Thread, Part 2

    @Astaereth‌

    See, here's the problem. I look at your lists of good movies and terrible movies, and my own such lists wouldn't look anything like those. So the answer to What Are You Missing? is just "Opinions LOL."

    And I think this sort of personal preference drives the kind of articles we see bemoaning the Great Death of Whatever. Any given year is going to be great for some people and terrible for others. And so any given year, you're going to find such articles.
    Harry DresdenAndy Joe
  • Re: The Last [Movies] Thread, Part 2

    Whenever I see fretting over the state of modern cinema and how it's all terrible because of Trend X - and if you don't think screeds similar to the one Astaereth posted are frequent as hell, then HAHAHAHAHAHAHA - I look at my Netflix queue. And I see the thirty or so films I have never seen, most of them pretty recent. And I look at the things I haven't seen on Redbox. And I think of the new movies section at Target. And I think of all the movies I wish I could see in theaters but that go away before I have a chance.

    I look at all those movies, so many of them utterly fantastic, and I have a hard time mourning the loss of all these hypothetical great movies that would've been made, if only.

    I also think it's adorable that the author is using the existence of the MCU to argue how risk-averse Hollywood is.

    And I'm confused by referring to Disney and Pixar offerings as almost entirely branded? Like, does Frozen count as a branded movie just because it has "Disney" attached to it? Is Up considered a branded movie because it's Pixar? Or is there a less- stupid way I'm supposed to be reading that?

    Ultimately, it's entirely possible that the industry sucks for a lot of filmmakers. As a consumer, though, it's never been better. The last two years in particular have been fucking amazeballs for films.

    BobbleShadowenJohnny Chopsocky
  • Re: The Last [Movies] Thread, Part 2

    And if the last decade has taught me anything, it's that when something couldn't have happened a certain way without several people being impossibly stupid, that's probably exactly what happened, and probably in an even stupider way than you imagined.

    It would not surprise me if Sony's security system was literally built out of clown shoes.
    Juliussee317RMS OceanicshrykeShadowenDoodmannPanda4You