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  • Re: Frank's Thread [NSFW]

    I was also taught that it's a good idea to establish the lightest light and darkest dark early- as well as the softest edge and hardest edge- my understanding of the thinking behind that was it was to start thinking about how the picture will work compositionally early on- figure out where you want the viewer's eye to go and make sure you're getting the contrast needed in that area to drive the eye there, then figure out where you want your less active areas to be, and establish that.

    It's possible that choice of medium plays a factor in these methods, since graphite/harder mediums lend themselves more readily to 'building up' values, whereas with charcoal it's easier to go dark quick and dial it back later if need be.

    In any case, both ways can achieve great results, so I doubt the method of getting there is as important as simply developing a habit of paying close attention to the importance of relative values when working.
    tynicNightDragonF87tapeslinger
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  • Re: Questions, Discussion, Tutorials

    @Scosglen I work much the same as you do, and wonder the same things. I brought this up before (jeez, has it really been over 2 years?) when I heard Glen Keane talking about how he draws vs Milt Kahl, who works in a similar fashion as Wrightson:

    http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/25523861#Comment_25523861 (scroll down to the second part).

    I really liked- and routinely think back on- @Wassermelone 's comment of, "I don't know how to draw or paint... I know how to correct stuff until its right", which a lot of the time is how it feels. (Also why I hate drawing in front of people that expect me to look like I'm going to shit out some primo-ass art right in front of their faces- as far as I can tell, most people that use a whiteboard on the regular can do a better job of that than I can. Gimme some time to hammer that shit out and I can make something that looks decent, but I always think if people watch me draw they're going to say, "I thought you were an artist...?" after about a minute.)

    I've been trying to do more exercises in ballpoint pen to try to force myself to do more work in my head/work towards a more deft execution, but it's something I find pretty challenging. (I also read that Marko Djurdjevic worked exclusively in pen for a year or more and he's pretty dang good at the drawing, so I figured I could give it a shot.) Whether I am likely to succeed in this, or if this will help me actually become a better artist, or if that way of working is actually better in any way or if it just seems more impressive, I don't know.
    WassermelonetynicLamp
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  • Re: Want [chat] liberation?

    Tam wrote: »
    who wouldn't
    god I'd love to sell out
    nothing I could produce could be worth the austerity of artistic integrity

    be a shill: make that skrill

    Better start making a portfolio full of painted gems. Gems and buttons. Buttons and gems. Buttons that let you buy gems. Buttons made of gems. Gems that make buttons. Butts that make gemons. Gettons maple butters. Bubble gable gen-con. And Jem and Holograms.

    Then you'll have a partofolio that'll get you the ventu-dollars in the slicksocon vallerie.
    IrukaProspicienceTamNightDragon
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  • Re: BrainPaint's Brainscape

    I really dig those first two characters up top.
    BrocksMullet
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  • Re: Want [chat] liberation?

    F87 wrote: »
    I hate to come off as only wanting people to know I'm an artist. Maybe part of that is that I don't know another artist outside of the internet... Also I really don't mean to just complain about bullshit all the time here, I don't wanna be the AC emo asshole :rotate:

    You guys have said it a lot, I just gotta shut up and get shit done.

    @F87: I don't know your financial situation at all, obviously but...If at all possible, I really think you would benefit a lot from saving up some money and taking some art classes (or even just one) at an atelier or just a short workshop or something, even if you can only do it for a few weeks or have to couchsurf the whole time- not even for the educational factor (though obviously, you'll get a lot out of that, as well), but just to break that sense of isolation, if for just a time.

    It's can be hard to work alone, for countless hours, in a social environment that may not understand or respect that work; just being in the presence of other skilled artists working on those same eat-your-vegetables kinda exercises would probably help kinda make the whole thing a bit more real for you, and keep your spirits up a bit more when you're back on your own, facing all the practice you're gonna have to chew through. For all the resources that are out there now- videos, books, etc., there's still no internet tool that's an adequate replacement for being around people that are in the same boat as you (as much as we here may try, it's still not quite the same thing, unfortunately).
    NightDragonF87
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