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  • Strip Search - Elimination #7

    Devonin wrote: »
    Also, I believe you're misunderstanding her use of the word 'competition' to refer to Monica and her strip. "Man the competition is WEAK tonight" etc.

    I am about 95% sure that she meant the competition between the two strips to choose one, which being shorter, was objectively (yes OBJECTIVELY) less tight of a competition. The harder the decision was, the longer consensus would take, which is, I'm pretty sure, all she meant by it.

    To say that there was less of a competition to choose between the strips doesn't even include a value judgement about which strip is 'better' or 'funnier' or anything, merely which pair of choices (Lexxy v Tavis or Lexxy v Monica) took longer to resolve.

    "Did it take longer to deliver a judgment?" isn't the same question as "Was the competition tighter", though, right?

    Surely the amount of time taken to judge can vary even if the level of competition is similar.

    For instance, a close call might take a long time when the judges have no experience at deciding close calls, and less time when they have more experience at deciding close calls.

    They had no experience deciding close calls when they saved Lexxy's strip, and much more experience deciding close calls when they, again, decided to preserve the loser's strip here. All else being equal, they're better judges, they've been in this situation before, and it should take less time, no?

    And given that, doesn't it seem pretty meaningful they preserved Monica's strip?
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    NotaCylon
  • Strip Search - Elimination #7

    I'm just saying it's rude to downplay your opponent's skill, and that's just as true even if there's an objective scoreboard that shows you winning.
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    MutantJohn
  • Strip Search - Elimination #7

    You really are abusing the word "objective", @fightinfilipino.

    I could point out that the judges were so moved by Monica's strip that they, just as in Lexxy's case, refused to destroy that strip. That sounds pretty equally tight to me! That sounds like strong evidence handed down from the judges that you're wrong, if you really want to play this game.

    I could point out that Lexxy's round showed Mike and Jerry that they would have to eliminate people they did not want to eliminate, and that in the long run they had to harden their hearts to that fact, that now they simply bite the bullet and make the hard choices. Mike and Jerry made comments to this effect in the wake of Lexxy's elimination.

    I could point out that Lexxy learned from her first round and used that knowledge to turn in a strip in this round better tailored to Mike and Jerry's preferences, perhaps raising the bar and creating fiercer competition than existed before. If Lexxy used new tricks to improve her odds of winning and if Monica still fought very close to a draw, wasn't the competition fiercer and tighter in that sense?

    There are lots of things I could say! And nothing that we've said makes Lexxy's statement objectively true or false, because this is a subjective art competition interwoven with subjective variables at every turn! You might as well argue apples are better than fridges because you can't eat a fridge. It's a piece of evidence true as far as it goes, except that the underlying question (are apples better than fridges?) is rottenly subjective and open-ended. "Was the competition more tight", you say?

    And really, this is all besides the point. It boils down to generic good sportsmanship. It's widely considered bad form to say much other than, "It was a good game, but I'm happy that I performed well and won." Comment on what you did well and how the game went, sure. But you certainly don't make comments implying your opponent was weak, even if you buried them on the scoreboard! That's not really what competitors do, unless you're ok with being a bit of a mean competitor.

    This really should not sound crazy to people who, say, played in a soccer league when they were a kid.
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    naviniea
  • Strip Search - Elimination #7

    It was strange for Monica to make such a somber piece in light of her usual focus on comedy. It was a great piece in a lot of ways and I'll bet it speaks to a lot of people, but the departure from comedy cost her the round.

    Lexxy's comic was very well done, much like the last one. Excellent art, amusing writing, and a strong final panel, although I think her clown strip was a bit more funny.

    Lexxy's comment about the lower level of competition was a little arrogant and cruel, though not malicious.
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  • Strip Search - Paint the Line

    It seemed like the contestants, for the most part, played better in doubles than they did in singles.

    Maybe they were inspired to new heights by their skilled PA teammates.
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