I am so pleased not to have to worry about that, BC.

I am so pleased not to have to worry about that, BC. God help me if you can purchase land in the game. Because eventually I will own the entire planet.

GTA 4 in the desert with lots of brutal homebrand weapons Also never a clean serface ever

Man it's not really GTA iv is it? I thought it was more like fallout 3 except with good combat.

Hmm, watched the gameplay thing again It would be better as a mix between GTA4's interactivity and Fallout's enviroment, but I think it would be better even further degraded. The vehicle was way way too clean, everything should be scraps, life by the skin of your teeth and such

can you customize the vehicles? i wanna customize vehicles. :< also i don't know much about borderlands. rpg shooter thingie, right?

Except with no teeth.

can you customize the vehicles? i wanna customize vehicles. :< also i don't know much about borderlands. rpg shooter thingie, right? Yes. Procedurally generated guns. Procedurally generated enemies. The original "boast" of the game was "OVER HALF A MILLION GUNS" but they have apparently broken beyond that. I'm looking forward to the sniper rifle that shoots explosive rounds.

Hmm, watched the gameplay thing again It would be better as a mix between GTA4's interactivity and Fallout's enviroment, but I think it would be better even further degraded. The vehicle was way way too clean, everything should be scraps, life by the skin of your teeth and such Also, co-op. That's a pretty big thing.

how many dudes in coop by the way? just 2? or is it gonna be like 8

100 man coop.

Borderlands can have up to 4 people co-op. Full drop in/drop out availability from the looks of it. Your character from single player carries over to whatever world you're dropping into, and whatever you accomplish there will carry back.

That is fuckin sweet is there character customisation or are you big burly bald space marine bro

procedurally generated guns? Are these realistic guns, or wacky fantasy guns, because I really can't imagine too many variations. edit:: at least, not enough for half a million

half a million guns, 3 or 4 of them are good

Half a million guns. Introducing two of the heavy hitters, The Mega death laser Mk. XI - 35 damage The Mega death laser Mk. XII - 35.5 damage

procedurally generated guns? Are these realistic guns, or wacky fantasy guns, because I really can't imagine too many variations. edit:: at least, not enough for half a million it mixes up ammo types, damage types, clips and that sort of thing i saw a demo where a guy got a sniper rifle with a revolver clip that fired electric bullets

Speaking of interesting things from E3, APB looks like the first MMO I might actually play. Rock, Paper, Shotgun write-up of APB Also, any of you guys following Mafia II? I loved the first one and this one looks great as well.

Mafia had a great story to it. Every time someone complained about the way the cars handled, I died a little inside.

Mafia had a great story to it. Every time someone complained about the way the cars handled, I died a little inside. Why? Yes, it's "accurate" and "realistic" to give the cars shitty handling, but then you're still playing an open-world driving game with shitty-handling cars. It's more of an actual game problem than a presentation problem.

Speaking of interesting things from E3, APB looks like the first MMO I might actually play. Rock, Paper, Shotgun write-up of APB Also, any of you guys following Mafia II? I loved the first one and this one looks great as well. so. how much money did they get for their SOULS. i kid, i kid, game looks sweet.

Mafia had a great story to it. Every time someone complained about the way the cars handled, I died a little inside. Why? Yes, it's "accurate" and "realistic" to give the cars shitty handling, but then you're still playing an open-world driving game with shitty-handling cars. It's more of an actual game problem than a presentation problem. The complaints aren't "There seems to be some gameplay issues tied in with the realism in the game" it's "WHY CANT I POWERSLIDE???" Making a part of the game more difficult for the sake of realism is not breaking the gameplay. It's like complaining because you're playing a baseball sim and every player doesn't hit home runs.

Or that your tank gets fucked up tracks in armed assault.

Speaking of interesting things from E3, APB looks like the first MMO I might actually play. Rock, Paper, Shotgun write-up of APB Also, any of you guys following Mafia II? I loved the first one and this one looks great as well. so. how much money did they get for their SOULS. i kid, i kid, game looks sweet. I think this may be a day 1 purchase for me. And then I need to find 2 other dudes willing to just make the beastie boys from Sabotage.

I can't wait to get to cracking criminal skulls in APB. I hope the cops our outnumbered two to one. That would just mean there will be more bodies for us to bag and tag.