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Old 08-24-2009, 01:40 PM
There is an official PS3 bluetooth remote that is pretty nice too.
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This remote would have been perfect if you could plug it in to the ps3 to recharge.
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Old 08-24-2009, 01:52 PM
Who the fuck wants a proprietary remote though?

Might not be as sensational as the BC or Linux issue, but hands down not using IR for remote is the worst idea Sony put in that box.
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Old 08-24-2009, 01:58 PM
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Who the fuck wants a proprietary remote though?

Might not be as sensational as the BC or Linux issue, but hands down not using IR for remote is the worst idea Sony put in that box.
You know, I had to think about that for a sec, but after doing so, I'd be hard pressed to disagree with you.

It's certainly not the most egregious design flaw of the console, overall. But for sheer wrongness for such a simple minor feature, you're absolutely right.
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Old 08-24-2009, 01:59 PM
How about we stop listing terrible Xbox games that we personally like and don't work well/at all on 360.

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Old 08-24-2009, 02:00 PM
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Who the fuck wants a proprietary remote though?

Might not be as sensational as the BC or Linux issue, but hands down not using IR for remote is the worst idea Sony put in that box.
Maybe not the worst, but definitely damning for folks who like universal remotes or convenience.

It took Logitech over two years to finally get permission to make an adapter for their high end line of universal remotes, and as far as I know it is the only game in town. Not even Sony makes a universal remote that supports the PS3, short of buying a brand new television set.

shit, at least include an RF jack in the back of the PS3 for the people who wanted the best Blu Ray player for the money.
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Old 08-24-2009, 02:00 PM
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http://cdn1.gamepro.com/article_img/gamepro/84708-3.jpg

This remote would have been perfect if you could plug it in to the ps3 to recharge.
Or you know, they put an IR port on the damn console, so those of us with harmony remotes could control their PS3.
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Old 08-24-2009, 02:01 PM
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http://cdn1.gamepro.com/article_img/gamepro/84708-3.jpg

This remote would have been perfect if you could plug it in to the ps3 to recharge.
Or you know, they put an IR port on the damn console, so those of us with harmony remotes could control their PS3.
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/re.../5732&cl=us,en

I know its another 60 bucks, but hey, it works finally!
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Old 08-24-2009, 02:04 PM
It "works" just fine with the $10 remote you buy and throw away the remote and use the IR dongle with your Harmony, too.

Its just fucking stupid.
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Old 08-24-2009, 02:08 PM
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It "works" just fine with the $10 remote you buy and throw away the remote and use the IR dongle with your Harmony, too.

Its just fucking stupid.
But that workaround cannot do half the shit a real standalone remote can do (or the harmony adapter), biggest of which is actually power the fucking thing on or off. Also, big issue with the Nyko dongle reading my single key input as a long hit, which would occasionally cause the ui to jump past what I wanted to do.

I used the Nyko IR dongle for a year or so... the Harmony solution is better in every single way.

edit: I guess if you fold, the whole turning it off thing wouldn't be a big deal, but electricity is expensive in the big apple.
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Old 08-24-2009, 02:26 PM
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Who the fuck wants a proprietary remote though?

Might not be as sensational as the BC or Linux issue, but hands down not using IR for remote is the worst idea Sony put in that box.
eh

I think the remote is pretty awesome.

inclusing IR as well would have been a nice touch, but I wouldn't want to lose out on the bluray remote. Not having to point the remote anywhere is a nice thing to have.
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Old 08-24-2009, 02:33 PM
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Who the fuck wants a proprietary remote though?

Might not be as sensational as the BC or Linux issue, but hands down not using IR for remote is the worst idea Sony put in that box.
eh

I think the remote is pretty awesome.

inclusing IR as well would have been a nice touch, but I wouldn't want to lose out on the bluray remote. Not having to point the remote anywhere is a nice thing to have.
Well, modern Universal remotes usually have both iR and RF, along with blasters to let you control all of your shit without pointing it at the set (or device).

My Harmony 1100 has all the functionality of the blu ray remote for the ps3 contained on its sleek touchscreen, AND I can use it without aiming at the dongle.

edit: and it really has nothing to do with whether their remote was awesome or not; they aimed the PS3 squarely at the people with bigass HD sets and 7.1 surround sound systems, and most of these folks have universal remotes to "thin the herd" of peripherals needed to make the system work and increase the likelyhood that the whole family could use the system without fucking it up. Sony blundered on that front.
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Old 08-24-2009, 02:36 PM
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Who the fuck wants a proprietary remote though?

Might not be as sensational as the BC or Linux issue, but hands down not using IR for remote is the worst idea Sony put in that box.
eh

I think the remote is pretty awesome.

inclusing IR as well would have been a nice touch, but I wouldn't want to lose out on the bluray remote. Not having to point the remote anywhere is a nice thing to have.
Well, modern Universal remotes usually have both iR and RF, along with blasters to let you control all of your shit without pointing it at the set (or device).

My Harmony 1100 has all the functionality of the blu ray remote for the ps3 contained on its sleek touchscreen, AND I can use it without aiming at the dongle.

edit: and it really has nothing to do with whether their remote was awesome or not; they aimed the PS3 squarely at the people with bigass HD sets and 7.1 surround sound systems, and most of these folks have universal remotes to "thin the herd" of peripherals needed to make the system work and increase the likelyhood that the whole family could use the system without fucking it up. Sony blundered on that front.
that's nice

how many hundreds of dollars did it cost you?



I'm not saying that it wouldn't have been great for Sony to include IR and/or RF in the PS3, but the Bluray remote that DOES exist for the system is pretty awesome. Part of the problem with the PS3 already is that they focussed TOO MUCH on high-end consumers, rather than the bulk of the market. Shifting focus MORE in that direction wouldn't have helped them.
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Old 08-24-2009, 02:38 PM
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that's nice

how many hundreds of dollars did it cost you?
Less than my launch 60 gig did, and much less than all the gear it controls .

Were it just for the PS3, that would be one thing... but it does so much more than that. And there was no option for people who want a remote like that *and* a PS3 until very, VERY recently.
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Old 08-24-2009, 02:44 PM
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that's nice

how many hundreds of dollars did it cost you?
Less than my launch 60 gig did, and much less than all the gear it controls .

Were it just for the PS3, that would be one thing... but it does so much more than that. And there was no option for people who want a remote like that *and* a PS3 until very, VERY recently.
Oh, I'm not putting down the remote.

Just making a point.

The folks buying those remotes are less likely to be the guys who've been waiting for the PS3 price to cut in half before buying one.



Sony's issues have more to do with not being able to pull from the middle of the market, not the top or bottom ends.
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Old 08-24-2009, 04:12 PM
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It "works" just fine with the $10 remote you buy and throw away the remote and use the IR dongle with your Harmony, too.

Its just fucking stupid.
Do you know if any of the IR dongles support the button codes?

I know the bundled remotes themselves don't have those physical buttons, but I have a TV remote that does, and it's the operation of Blu-Ray features that require those that really annoys me when using a DualShock.
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Old 08-24-2009, 09:15 PM
So I thought the Slim came out the first week of September? All the sites are saying tomorrow and I pre-ordered it yesterday and they said they'd have it in tomorrow. When did all this change?
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So I thought the Slim came out the first week of September? All the sites are saying tomorrow and I pre-ordered it yesterday and they said they'd have it in tomorrow. When did all this change?
i think it was always just that sept. 1 was the "official" release, but there was no embargo or anything and stores could sell it whenever they had their hands on it
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Old 08-24-2009, 10:13 PM
The only problem I have with the PS3 remote is that the buttons have no sort of back light or glow feature. Since I like to watch movies in the dark, this tends to be a problem for me. Other than that, it's rather cool using your PS3 as your stereo, sitting on the toilet a few rooms down and being able to flip through songs
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The only problem I have with the PS3 remote is that the buttons have no sort of back light or glow feature. Since I like to watch movies in the dark, this tends to be a problem for me. Other than that, it's rather cool using your PS3 as your stereo, sitting on the toilet a few rooms down and being able to flip through songs
I think that's true for all the Xbox 360 remotes I've seen thusfar. Not to mention the remote for the 37LG50.

Backlight would be nice though.
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The only problem I have with the PS3 remote is that the buttons have no sort of back light or glow feature. Since I like to watch movies in the dark, this tends to be a problem for me. Other than that, it's rather cool using your PS3 as your stereo, sitting on the toilet a few rooms down and being able to flip through songs
I think that's true for all the Xbox 360 remotes I've seen thusfar. Not to mention the remote for the 37LG50.

Backlight would be nice though.
That's definitely not true for the Xbox 360 Universal Remote Control made by Microsoft. I just tried it from one room over with 1 single wall in the way, and it can't even power my 360 on without direct LOS. Then I went an extra room over and turned on my PS3 with Sony's official remote through 2 walls, with the remote inside a mostly closed refrigerator.

Not that I expect to be using the remote from inside the fridge, but the point there was finding that there is no place whatsoever in my condo that you cannot control the PS3 from. And yes, that is very handy when streaming music from your PC and using the PS3 as a stereo.
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Old 08-25-2009, 07:50 AM
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The only problem I have with the PS3 remote is that the buttons have no sort of back light or glow feature. Since I like to watch movies in the dark, this tends to be a problem for me. Other than that, it's rather cool using your PS3 as your stereo, sitting on the toilet a few rooms down and being able to flip through songs
I think that's true for all the Xbox 360 remotes I've seen thusfar. Not to mention the remote for the 37LG50.

Backlight would be nice though.
In a strange convergence of topics, the 360-specific Logitech Harmony remote does indeed have a backlight. It's what I use, and I love it—about $80 to $100 when I bought it, is probably cheaper now, and works like a charm. It's essentially a rebranded low-end Harmony—the one with an LCD screen with four context-sensitive buttons—that has the 360 ABXY buttons on it. As someone who is married to a woman who hates technology and figuring out TV inputs, I can say a Harmony was the best tech purchase I've made in years.
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As someone who is married to a woman who hates technology and figuring out TV inputs, I can say a Harmony was the best tech purchase I've made in years.
Yeah before I picked up a Harmony (got the 550 for like 30 bucks at Amazon) my woman would never have bothered with the receiver or anything for watching TV, etc. Now it's just one button push away and everything comes on and changes to the right input. She's even using the 360 now to watch movies/tv shows from the PC with the thing.
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Old 08-25-2009, 09:01 AM
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So I thought the Slim came out the first week of September? All the sites are saying tomorrow and I pre-ordered it yesterday and they said they'd have it in tomorrow. When did all this change?
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