This score/quote-faking thing makes me wonder--Eidos made a bad fucking call here, but would we have caught this if Kane & Lynch weren't already under such scrutiny due to the firing? That is to say, how common is this practice? I refuse to believe that this is the first time a publisher has faked review quotes in an ad. Remember when Sony caught flak for making-up a reviewer and quotation on promotional materials for The Animal? Another industry altogether, but there you go. The Eidos case is a little more innocuous than outright lying, as in the Sony Pictures case, though.

Does any of this shock anyone? It doesn't shock me in the least. Game "reviews" have been mostly suspect to me for years now, even before my own entry into the market (and subsequent encounters with game editors who could care less about a game unless its "hot" or made by a large company). No one with any sense can deny (especially after this debacle) the connection between ad dollars and review tones. Rigging reviews maybe not, but overall slants? They can and have been bought, to a degree, and that's all but confirmed. There are legitimate reviewers out there, those that love the games enough to tell it like it is. But it may quickly be becoming a dying breed.

This score/quote-faking thing makes me wonder--Eidos made a bad fucking call here, but would we have caught this if Kane & Lynch weren't already under such scrutiny due to the firing? That is to say, how common is this practice? I refuse to believe that this is the first time a publisher has faked review quotes in an ad. Remember when Sony caught flak for making-up a reviewer and quotation on promotional materials for The Animal? Another industry altogether, but there you go. The Eidos case is a little more innocuous than outright lying, as in the Sony Pictures case, though. Wait. The Animal? Seriously? They took that kind of risk on Rob Schneider?

As if this story couldnt get any better. Eidos sinking ever deeper with Kane & Lynch Written by Slobodan Simic Wednesday, 05 December 2007 13:55 Click here for article... When a guy named Slobodan is calling you out about your corruption, you know you're in trouble.

Does any of this shock anyone? It doesn't shock me in the least. Game "reviews" have been mostly suspect to me for years now, even before my own entry into the market (and subsequent encounters with game editors who could care less about a game unless its "hot" or made by a large company). No one with any sense can deny (especially after this debacle) the connection between ad dollars and review tones. Rigging reviews maybe not, but overall slants? They can and have been bought, to a degree, and that's all but confirmed. There are legitimate reviewers out there, those that love the games enough to tell it like it is. But it may quickly be becoming a dying breed. Well this is where I personally don't take just one review and one score before deciding on buying a game. I look at a number of sites and opinions, read the actual text of the review for things that I think I'll like and what I won't, and see if it's being discussed here and what people are saying. Taking a single review at face value is always a bad idea, whether you believe it's down to advertising money or just the opinions of the reviewer, you're unlikely to get a fair opinion.

As if this story couldnt get any better. Eidos sinking ever deeper with Kane & Lynch Written by Slobodan Simic Wednesday, 05 December 2007 13:55 Click here for article... When a guy named Slobodan is calling you out about your corruption, you know you're in trouble. Hilarious

As if this story couldnt get any better. Eidos sinking ever deeper with Kane & Lynch Written by Slobodan Simic Wednesday, 05 December 2007 13:55 Click here for article... When a guy named Slobodan is calling you out about your corruption, you know you're in trouble. Ha, awesome. As for the article, and the contents thereof, I'm no less than disappointed. Eidos has stepped into territory that Sony walked. I mean... blarg!

It has always been odd to me that most review systems try to place some kind of value on crap games. Do you really want to waste time playing through a 6.0 "fair" game when there are plenty of other must-buy games around? I sure don't. Just because it's sold at an EB Games and my 360 can read it (maybe) doesn't mean it's worth even a fraction of my time. One man's trash and all that. I'd sooner see reviews of every last title on the shelves than 177 reviews of the latest hot title. Stuff like Assassin's Creed and Halo 3, EVERYONE is going to review that. The review of that B-level niche game, though, has some added value to me as a reader if coverage is only available on one or two sites.

A 1Up user by the name of Doomba posted a short based on one of Shawn Elliot's stories: http://www.theamazinghouse.com/Buttons/BillyEidos.mp3

So Radio Leo talked about this here. This was also broadcast on radio, both satellite and terrestrial. We're not letting this die are we guys? Guys...

This score/quote-faking thing makes me wonder--Eidos made a bad fucking call here, but would we have caught this if Kane & Lynch weren't already under such scrutiny due to the firing? That is to say, how common is this practice? I refuse to believe that this is the first time a publisher has faked review quotes in an ad. Remember when Sony caught flak for making-up a reviewer and quotation on promotional materials for The Animal? Another industry altogether, but there you go. The Eidos case is a little more innocuous than outright lying, as in the Sony Pictures case, though. Wait. The Animal? Seriously? They took that kind of risk on Rob Schneider? Actually because it was Rob Schneider people looked for this review and found that Sony had been fabricating reviews for at least a decade.

This score/quote-faking thing makes me wonder--Eidos made a bad fucking call here, but would we have caught this if Kane & Lynch weren't already under such scrutiny due to the firing? That is to say, how common is this practice? I refuse to believe that this is the first time a publisher has faked review quotes in an ad. Remember when Sony caught flak for making-up a reviewer and quotation on promotional materials for The Animal? Another industry altogether, but there you go. The Eidos case is a little more innocuous than outright lying, as in the Sony Pictures case, though. Wait. The Animal? Seriously? They took that kind of risk on Rob Schneider? Nah, the fake reviewer (for a real magazine) that was finally caught was used for a long time before anyone finally realized it. It was just "The Animal" that finally caused someone to look into it and point it out publicly.

Oh my god, that Gamespot tribute video is hilarious. Apparently, Gerstmann wasn't fired, nor did he leave from Gamespot: he was gunned down by a ravaging maniac, and the GS staff is paying their last respects to Jeff's carcass

Oh my god, that Gamespot tribute video is hilarious. Apparently, Gerstmann wasn't fired, nor did he leave from Gamespot: he was gunned down by a ravaging maniac, and the GS staff is paying their last respects to Jeff's carcass That's what happens when you start the deadly life style of reviewing games like GTA 3... More industry news, there is a big deal about Kohnke Communcations. More fuel to the fire that Gamespot is desperately trying to cover up.

Am I the only one who fucking reads "Gamestop" everytime I see "Gamespot"?

Am I the only one who fucking reads "Gamestop" everytime I see "Gamespot"? I do, too. You know how companies are supposed to defend their trademarks to reduce consumer confusion? This is the only instance, personally, in which it's needed -- and the only instance in which, as far as I know, neither company has said a word, legally. When you actually need draconian trademark law, it just ain't there for you.

So Radio Leo talked about this here. This was also broadcast on radio, both satellite and terrestrial. We're not letting this die are we guys? Guys... I think it is done but this won't fade from my memory any time soon. I mean cashwh0re was just hilarious.

So uh Gamerankings have taken all GameSpot reviews off their site

So uh Gamerankings have taken all GameSpot reviews off their site I still see some right on the homepage.

So uh Gamerankings have taken all GameSpot reviews off their site I still see some right on the homepage. People have submitted them for new games I guess, but if you look at any of their older review they're not up Here's some pics for those who don't want to search - http://www.gemaga.com/2007/12/14/gam...m-gamerankings Most notably

Oh, Gamerankings are also owned by CNet That's confusing, maybe they'll get in trouble

That makes no sense. Why would they do that? Edit: http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrank....asp?siteid=15 They must have just removed the link from the site statistics part.

Well I have no idea what's going on Uncharted and Kane and Lynch don't have GameSpot links anymore

Well I have no idea what's going on Uncharted and Kane and Lynch don't have GameSpot links anymore The 360 Kane and Lynch review page does though the PS3 review page doesn't. I don't think it is normal for that to happen. Gamespot's review is up for both versions of Call of Duty 4. No clue about Uncharted. Edit again: I don't see any Gamespot review up for Mass Effect either. I only see the preview for it. The Assassin's Creed review is up though. Edit again again: Wikipedia: At this time Gamerankings is going through some system adjustments. Their interactivity options as message boards, sign-ins and user reviews have been disabled. No notification on when it will be enabled. It could be related and could possibly somehow be an unintended screwup.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/urging-calm...res-334340.php GameRankings editor Lee Alessi writes today on his GameSpot blog, "No, I didn't get rid of their data 'on purpose'. I honestly have no clue how it disappeared and before anyone asks---no, I didn't delete the site. I am no Tech but I will take a guess and say there will have to be a restored backup to get close to 10,000 in reviews and 60,000 in other articles back on GR." Yes, GameRankings did indeed drop GameSpot reviews, but looks like it found them, plans to put them back in their spot, restore balance to all important percentages and (hopefully) defuse any further potential drama.