Location: We're not territorial about that sort of thing, are we?
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 11-08-2009, 09:41 AM
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matthasaproblem wrote:

Alecthar wrote:

Richy wrote:

matthasaproblem wrote:

Variable wrote:

matthasaproblem wrote:

Variable wrote:

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and there's the abstinence argument.
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How is "the consequences of your actions are yours to deal with" an abstinence argument?
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ummmm how isn't it?
I'm not putting you or it or anyone down, I don't want to argue, but you clearly just made an argument for abstinence.
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No? For personal responsibility in regards to sex, sure. I never said people shouldn't have sex. Just that they need to accept the responsibility that goes along with it, and not whine that the government won't pay for their abortions.
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It is an argument for both personal responsibility and for abstinence. If you have sex there is a chance that you'll get pregnant, no matter how small. If you want to be absolutely certain you won't get pregnant, you have to completely avoid having sex. It is, in fact, the only reasonable argument for abstinence.
It's not an argument against government funding for abortions. Abortions are a medical procedure, and should be covered like any other medical procedure. Saying "they knew the risk, it's their responsibility" can be applied to any medical procedure. "They knew the risks of climbing a ladder, the government shouldn't pay for their cast." "They knew the risks of eating bacon cheeseburgers, the government shouldn't pay for their bypass." "They knew the risks of suntanning, the government shouldn't pay for their cancer treatment." Would you make any of those arguments? If not, then making the same argument for sex and abortion isn't valid.
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I would say one of the 2 reasonable arguments for abstinence. The other is to avoid STDs.
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The third is Jesus.
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Unless I'm allowed to carry around a gun to shoot their giant killer-spiders, Australia needs to stay the fuck away from me. Also Australians, who if they have lived this long are obviously agents of the spiders and not to be trusted.
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